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Are the Republicans on a witch hunt against Planned Parenthood?

bob 2011/10/06 18:09:02
The Republican have demanded reams and reams of documents from health clinics across the country
Now the Republican are threatening, again, to strip Planned Parenthood of vital federal funding for services like cancer screenings and family planning.
So I guess Republican think that health services are only for the utlra-wealthy 1%
the Republicans ARE on a witch hunt against Planned Parenthood
the Republicans ARE NOT a witch hunt against Planned Parenthood
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  • Lady Wh... ehrhornp 2011/10/07 09:20:17
    Lady Whitewolf
    very true!
  • mg's haven~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2011/10/07 01:13:48
    the Republicans ARE NOT a witch hunt against Planned Parenthood
    mg's haven~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    The more i listen to the mumbling the more i realize this is more about who funds it and not the act itself. I wont pay for something i cant put myself through. This is one thing i put into that category. If vsomone is to lazy to protect themselves from the whole thing on their own i cant help them. I shouldnt be forced into it either. This crap does just that
  • elijahin24 mg's ha... 2011/10/07 03:35:46
    elijahin24
    +1
    I trust that that also includes cancer treatments, or any kind of surgery you ever need? You'll never use public funds for it? Medicare, medicare?
    Are rape victims lazy too? Shall we engage in the time honored right-wing tradition of blaming the victim?
  • mg's ha... elijahin24 2011/10/07 03:59:28
    mg's haven~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Dont start that with me ..Stay on topic for one. I said i cannot nor wont pay for myself. Dont try and change the subject this is only about planned parent hood If you need to debate that go to another question. As for rape babies happen when they are meant to not because we want the m all the tiime And yes i would hope they can see fit to actually allow someone else to have children when they cant procreate on their own. I dont expect them to BUT NOT ON MY DIME.
  • elijahin24 mg's ha... 2011/10/07 04:04:41
    elijahin24
    +1
    That's easy to say when you aren't the one who has to go through 9 months of pregnancy, labor, morning sickness and changes to your body; all of which would be a perpetual reminder of the single worst experience of your life.
  • mg's ha... elijahin24 2011/10/07 04:08:44 (edited)
    mg's haven~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Oh really and you know all there is to know about me ..Nice try --wont work. Too many people want babies and they either have to wait for someone to die and leave their babies or snatch them from someone that does want theirs. Nice options for them huh? Oh and BTW that sounded like shight to people that had "mistake babies" and now cant see life without them. You might want to change that comment.
  • elijahin24 mg's ha... 2011/10/07 05:03:32
    elijahin24
    +2
    All 3 of my kids were "mistake babies", and I wouldn't trade them for anything. I'm not advocating abortion. I'm advocating choice. I don't like abortion. I think it's tragic. But sometimes it is the least bad option. And in cases like that, it has to BE an option.
  • mg's ha... elijahin24 2011/10/07 05:13:22
    mg's haven~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    Ok i can go here. If the life of hte mother is put in jeopardy, for some reason, by this i cant stand in their way. Thats the best i can do for that one.
  • elijahin24 mg's ha... 2011/10/07 05:20:07
    elijahin24
    +1
    That's reasonable. That's where my transition started too.
  • Lady Wh... elijahin24 2011/10/07 09:20:44
    Lady Whitewolf
    bingo!
  • bob mg's ha... 2011/10/07 13:39:10
  • mg's ha... bob 2011/10/09 03:10:40
    mg's haven~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    This doesn't come close to it. Sorry. It would be much worse if they really did think that all of it was wrong. There would be nothing left to work with by now.
  • TheMadChameleon 2011/10/07 01:12:26
    the Republicans ARE on a witch hunt against Planned Parenthood
    TheMadChameleon
    +3
    I don't support abortion, but I think that every woman should have access to contraception, women's health advice, ect. Planned Parenthood provides that. And from what I can tell, many Republicans want to shut the whole thing down. Why, so that more women without easy access to contraception will have abortions? Come ON!
  • WGN 2011/10/07 01:08:44
    the Republicans ARE on a witch hunt against Planned Parenthood
    WGN
    +2
    It is just a stance to appease the conservative christians who are against abortion as murder, but support the death penalty. Hypocritical losers!
  • davidl WGN 2011/10/07 03:02:46
    davidl
    The difference for the logic-impaired is that a death-row murderer is a murderer who committed a crime, and had numerous trials & appeals. When did the abortionist hold a trial, or it it that he is the prosecutor, judge, and executioner?
  • WGN davidl 2011/10/07 12:04:37
    WGN
    That is just a great big rationalization and you know it!

    You still have no regards for the women's life or well being.
  • davidl WGN 2011/10/07 12:29:16
    davidl
    You asked the difference, and I answered it. The adult is a convicted killer who must pay the penalty. Don't blame me for responding with the correct answer. I did not comment on the regards for the woman's life because there is more than one life on that table.

    In interest of full disclosure, if the wife's life is at extreme risk if the baby goes to full term, then I do support abortion.

    But I do not support abortion for family planning, or if the sex is wrong, or the woman doesn't want to be inconvenienced.
  • WGN davidl 2011/10/07 15:19:47
    WGN
    And when it comes right down to it, it is a matter of choice. The murderer you presented choose to do the crime and has to take responsibility. A women might not CHOOSE to get pregnant, but it is her right to choose whether or not to have the baby and it is her personal responsibility to make HER choice. It is not your right, or anyone elses, to tell her what is the correct choice, or to try and make it for her.
  • davidl WGN 2011/10/07 17:00:54
    davidl
    What choice does the baby/fetus have???
  • WGN davidl 2011/10/08 19:45:09
    WGN
    Until it is born of the mother, NONE, and that is the real point in all of this, isn't it?
  • davidl WGN 2011/10/08 20:01:31
    davidl
    And yet, if you are not an abortionist and assault a woman, or a woman purposely does something to kill the baby/fetus, then you can be convicted of murder and get a life sentence.
  • davidl davidl 2011/10/08 20:04:37
    davidl
    In interest of time, I'll save you the anticipated no way, prove it, never happened, blah blah blah exchange. Here is one newspaper article about two teens from Ohio who did just that.

    You can find more if you search.

    http://www.midlandsconnect.co...
  • WGN davidl 2011/10/08 20:19:53
    WGN
    That is why abortion by a doctor is legal!
  • davidl WGN 2011/10/08 20:30:16
    davidl
    The irony, which you are missing, is that causing the death of a fetus/baby is murder unless it is performed by a doctor, per rule of law.

    Or, it is not murder if you have medical license.

    Either way, you can't argue that abortion isn't murder in the eyes of the law in SOME CASES.
  • WGN davidl 2011/10/08 21:21:15
    WGN
    I did not miss it. It is the law and yours is a religious position, not one of law
  • davidl WGN 2011/10/08 23:28:02
    davidl
    Religious, yes, ethical also. Most doctors will refuse to perform abortions due to their position that it would be a violation of their oath to take a human life.
  • WGN davidl 2011/10/09 22:41:23
    WGN
    Not ethical from the stand point of the mother, for it is she who gives the baby life. Do this: If you want the baby to have rights, remove it from the mother at 3 months and let it have all the rights that it can get.
    The baby can not survive without the mother, but the mother can survive without the baby.
    Go back to biology class!
  • davidl WGN 2011/10/10 03:13:13
    davidl
    That's easy .. but what about 7+ months? That is when it really gets sick.
  • WGN davidl 2011/10/10 18:48:29
    WGN
    Legal abortions usually take place in the first trimester, you know that, so let's keep to the point.
  • davidl WGN 2011/10/10 19:04:07 (edited)
    davidl
    True, but not always, as you acknowledge, .. which is MY point.
  • WGN davidl 2011/10/10 20:05:13
    WGN
    And my mother lost her first two pregnancies due to natural causes late in the term. It happens, but that is not really the point that you are trying to make, now is it?
  • Marlow ~ Let There Be Light 2011/10/07 01:00:17
  • bob Marlow ... 2011/10/07 13:40:00
  • Marlow ... bob 2011/10/07 17:10:24
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    What does that mean? Are you agreeing or not?
  • WGN Marlow ... 2011/10/08 19:46:33
    WGN
    +1
    And the Pope's Inquisition killed how many adults in the name of the same God?
    Hypocrites, all of you!
  • Marlow ... WGN 2011/10/09 02:42:15 (edited)
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    How about entering the 21st century? If you're going back five hundred years to find a grivence, you've obviously lost the argument, and frankly shows how limited your brain power is. All I can say is that 53 million abortions in this country alone since roe v wade is way beyond any murdering dictator. Even Stalin didn't reach such a number.
  • WGN Marlow ... 2011/10/09 22:43:16
    WGN
    +1
    Sorry, but your point has been heard and discarded.
    The baby has no rights until it is born alive. Until that time, it is dependent on the mother. It is not a symbiotic relationship.
    I do live in the 21st century, and you are still in the dark ages!
  • Marlow ... WGN 2011/10/10 01:17:01
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    LOL, discarded by you? Well, that must be an honor. Grow up. you sound like a twelve year old. A one year old still has a symbiotic reltionship and is dependent. Or are you one of those lefties that supports infanticide? What can I say. You're heart is cold to human life.
  • WGN Marlow ... 2011/10/10 18:51:23
    WGN
    Just think what the population would look like with an additional 53 million people, and since Roe vs. Wade was many tears ago, a lot of those children would also be having kids.
    It is time that you took a look at the big picture of where the world is at, and get some common sense. Abortions have been taking place since the dawn of time for many reasons, among them population control.
  • Marlow ... WGN 2011/10/11 00:50:28 (edited)
    Marlow ~ Let There Be Light
    It doesn't make it right. By that logic, Hitler's final solution was an effort for population control...lol. Good Lord, help us poor humans. We are in need of mercy.

    Well, peace be with you. I don't feel like arguing.

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