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Are Tasers in the wrong hands?

mikestice 2009/07/28 15:58:08
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Tasers are not toys, to be respected in the hands of proper , authoritative hands and people need to realize the poice mean business...
There is too much misuse and they should be banned...
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Case 1
MOBILE, Alabama (AP) — Police in Mobile, Alabama, used pepper spray and a Taser on a deaf, mentally disabled who they said wouldn't leave a store's bathroom. The family of 37-year-old Antonio Love has filed a formal complaint over the incident on Friday.

Police tell the Press-Register of Mobile that officers shot pepper spray under the bathroom door after knocking several times. After forcing the door open, they used the stun gun on Love.

Police spokesman Christopher Levy says police didn't realize Love had a hearing impairment until after he was out of the bathroom. The officers' conduct is under investigation.

The newspaper says the officers attempted to book Love on charges including disorderly conduct, but a magistrate on duty wouldn't accept the charges.

Case 2
An Australian man who had doused himself with gasoline burst into flames when police Tasered him, The Australian newspaper reports.

The newspaper says police had gone to a house in the remote West Australian community of Warburton where Ronald Mitchell, 36, and others had been sniffing gasoline.

Morinda West, Mitchell's sister, tells the newspaper that the man was recently released from prison and was scared to go to the door when police knocked.

Eventually, she says, MItchell went to the front of the house with a lighter and a half-gallon orange juice container full of gasoline, having apparently splashed some of it on his face.

A police spokeswoman says an officer Tasered Mitchell as he ran at the officer with the gasoline container and refused to stop. Family members say the Taser hit him on the bridge of his nose.

Mitchell was hospitalized with burns over 20% of his body, the newspaper says.

Case 3
HOUSTON (AP) — NFL receiver Reggie Williams was charged with drug possession after off-duty policemen used a Taser to subdue him when he refused to leave a bar. Houston police spokesman Kese Smith says Williams was impaired when he refused to leave a bar Sunday night. He struggled with two off-duty officers who tried to escort him out and one of them used a Taser on him.

Police say jail officials later found a small bag believed to contain cocaine in Williams' back pocket. He was charged on Monday with possession of a controlled substance and freed after posting a $2,000 bond.

In February, the 25-year-old unrestricted free agent was arrested in Houston on DWI and possession of marijuana charges, which were later dropped. He played for the Jacksonville Jaguars last season and is currently a free agent.

A call to Williams' agent was not immediately returned.

MY QUESTION IS... Are we allowing bruality or are tasing incidents justified?
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  • moomoof 2009/07/28 16:30:38
    There is too much misuse and they should be banned...
    moomoof
    +3
    They are just using it like an argueing tool
    when words should be used they taser
    this is a big issue people think they can not kill you but what fail to realize is that anyone with heart problems or pacemaker can be killed by these machines
    not to mention cause muscle damage

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  • Piwan 2009/10/25 14:49:41
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    Piwan
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    They probably ARE necessary in some cases, but the fact is they are misused alot. Only should be used as a VERY last resort!
  • mikestice Piwan 2009/10/25 16:26:16
    mikestice
    +1
    Just like a weapon...
  • Piwan mikestice 2009/10/25 20:20:34
    Piwan
    +1
    Yes, indeed they are!
  • Marek 2009/09/30 02:34:01
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    Marek
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    Case 1. The police clearly abused their power.
    Case 2. Is the shear stupidity of both the idiot sniffing gasoline and the officer who tasered him when clearly the smell of gas must have been strong.
    Case 3. The police were justified using taser.
  • mikestice Marek 2009/09/30 04:40:12
    mikestice
    +1
    I can't believe it. Question two and we are both agreed. agreed
  • ypd91 2009/07/29 21:38:26
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    it is better than letting them have a gun
    and what those cops did was just plain idiotic
  • mikestice ypd91 2009/07/30 16:25:29
    mikestice
    +3
    I agree on the idiot cops... there are other ways of getting things done, not the least is Talking.
  • GOD 2009/07/29 13:21:34
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    GOD
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    I want one or 20 LOL do you think they would be good for parenting LMAO
  • mikestice GOD 2009/07/29 14:10:22
    mikestice
    +1
    No, parenting with tasers is a no-no...
  • GOD mikestice 2009/07/29 14:11:24
    GOD
    +1
    dam LOL
  • Woman of many faces~ijm 2009/07/29 02:03:33
    Tasers are not toys, to be respected in the hands of proper , authoritative h...
    Woman of many faces~ijm
    +2
    Just behave ..and you will have no problem !
  • mikestice Woman o... 2009/07/29 05:03:25 (edited)
    mikestice
    +3
    That is not necessarilly true. The first case proves that. If anything he was guilty of taking a malicious Leak! necessarilly true case proves hewas guilty malicious leak
  • Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~ 2009/07/29 00:37:59
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    Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~
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    I'm in favor of an unarmed society. Short of that, reduce them, starting with the taser.
  • mikestice Ali ~ I... 2009/07/29 05:05:54
    mikestice
    +3
    Very refreshing. If no one had weapons, we'd be safer all the way around.
  • Marek mikestice 2009/09/30 02:39:40
    Marek
    +1
    If all people were nice it would be true. If no one had weapons then the person with bigger fists would have the advantage and violence would continue. The gun is said to be a great equalizer, while I may argue with that, I think that armed society is more polite one.
  • mikestice Marek 2009/09/30 04:41:47
    mikestice
    +1
    That is a tough response for me. I think we'd be safer if "No one" had weapons... but that won't ever happen. To great of a market.
  • CINDERELLA 2009/07/28 19:41:45
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  • mikestice CINDERELLA 2009/07/29 05:06:11
    mikestice
    OK.
  • ImgonaluvAztroBoi4eva 2009/07/28 19:08:14
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    ImgonaluvAztroBoi4eva
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    To me it's not so much the banning of tasers as it is about them being in the hands of hot headed, trigger happy people. I really feel for the man in case #1... and I'm sorry that the man in case # 2 got burned, but part of it was his own fault. I don't feel remorse in case #3's instance. It all depends on individual circumstances. Sometimes it was better that they used a tazer rather then an actual gun, but they definatly overuse tazers.
  • mikestice Imgonal... 2009/07/29 05:15:11 (edited)
    mikestice
    +3
    You have gotten that right. While I worked at the county lock up as a turn key I witnessed on more than one occassion the misuse of these things to control the population. At the times of administration there were alternatives set aside because they wanted to show "Force!" If I had been at the receiving end of a taser and already had an anti-social attitude, I would not be any happier when I did get out!


    Was that really necessary?
  • res2e mikestice 2009/08/06 11:55:26
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    Wth. Definitely not! Hahaha, what are they thinking.. he is clearly incapable of doing anything, he is pinned to the ground.
  • mikestice res2e 2009/09/03 01:59:58
    mikestice
    I know. How dangerous is he...
  • res2e Imgonal... 2009/08/06 11:53:35
    res2e
    +2
    I totally agree with you!
  • mikestice res2e 2009/09/03 02:02:48
    mikestice
    You say that even if you don't really man it... ha, ha, ha... I AGREE WITH YOU, hs a nice ring to it!! I have been married too long. (one mnth on Sepember 7th) All I say is yes dear, how right you are!
  • hentai baka 2009/07/28 18:34:20
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    hentai baka
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    there just in the hands of ignorant cops
  • mikestice hentai ... 2009/07/29 05:16:38
    mikestice
    +3
    I don't think they are ignorant, but they have lost the art of negotiation...
  • hentai ... mikestice 2009/07/29 06:09:30
    hentai baka
    +2
    true that i just don't like how cops think they have so much power it won't save them if they keep screwing up on things like that
  • mikestice hentai ... 2009/07/29 06:22:23
    mikestice
    +3
    That is an agreeable point. I feel that they could holster their tasers and start from scratch trying to get along with the people they are there to protect and serve. BTW, they are serving the criminal just in a more authortative position. And I feel that gap, between police and crimials (convicted), can't become less of a gap by tasing them while they are pretty much in their control... anyway.
  • hentai ... mikestice 2009/07/29 06:39:22
    hentai baka
    +2
    yeah thats true they should just start slow dealing with people and they do have more then enough control of people they don't really need any more of it
  • res2e mikestice 2009/08/06 11:56:17
    res2e
    +1
    No shit ahaha.
  • mikestice res2e 2009/09/03 02:04:26
    mikestice
    +1
    As a Buddhist I am compelled to say... "Amen!"
  • Mr. Basket 2009/07/28 17:07:59
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    I don't know... sometimes i think i'd prefer tasers in hands as opposed to other things.

    Abuse is abuse despite the tool they use to perform it.
  • mikestice Mr. Basket 2009/07/29 05:22:37 (edited)
    mikestice
    You are correct. Negotiation between people does work. You have to gve it a chance to work. A taser removes the art and replaces it with force. I would rather have a criminal agreeable for doing something they don't want to do because they have mulled over the consequences rather than shock someone into submission and the first chance they have to do you bodily harm... there will be no negotiations. What do ou think these mean??? criminal mulled consequences shock submission chance bodily harm negotiations ou

    They mean that no one wanted to give the benefit of the doubt... so death was the next thing on the table.
  • Poet003 2009/07/28 16:43:41
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    good question.I will think about it.We probably need to
    ban bad officers not take away weapons.
  • mikestice Poet003 2009/07/29 05:26:37
    mikestice
    Well, yes and no. Yes rid ouselves of the bad (which is more difficult to do) rather than keeping the weapons. I vote for less weponry and more negotiation...
  • Dagon 2009/07/28 16:42:11
  • mikestice Dagon 2009/07/29 05:29:14 (edited)
    mikestice
    +1
    Well Dagon, my friend, I feel that if the penal system relies more on talking negotioation we would not have to revert to weapons of negotiation. I was a turn key once, and it was misused to simply show the criminals that there was something stronge than they: this bred anger and more violence.
  • Dagon mikestice 2009/07/29 05:57:37
  • mikestice Dagon 2009/07/29 06:36:15
    mikestice
    +1
    I can't disagree with you. I was SAC security while in the service. I did have the power of life and death for anyone who didn't pay attention to what I was saying as they stupidly encroached upon a secured bunker, B-52 or KC135 [this included "Let's Play The Game" full bull colonels . Most people were loaded, drunk or both. I had to make decisions everyday to keep from putting a corpse on the flight line and as a county gaurd I know I had to think before I called the sherriff in to quell a situation. I did a lot of talking... I will do the same today given the same circumstances. But if you have an individal that is not thinking clearly, all need to shoulder some of that burden. Then the next person who sees negotiations taking place might be able to weigh out what are the consequences and how will I respond before all hell breaks loose and someone dies from over tasing or a bullet.
  • Dagon mikestice 2009/07/29 06:42:33

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