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Are Republican Contempt Allegations Payback For Eric Holder's Defense of Voting Rights?

ProudProgressive 2012/06/13 11:40:41
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Are Republican Contempt Allegations Payback For Eric Holder's Defense of Voting Rights?
By: Yellow Dog Yankee
June 12, 2012

You know that bridge that is always metaphorically for sale to anyone who exhibits unwarranted gullibility? It is time to dust it off and offer it to anyone who does not see a link between Eric Holder's aggressive persecution of voting abuses in Florida and what has happened to the Attorney General in the halls of Congress this week.

Since the elections in November 2011, over half of the states have enacted various laws covering elections including changes to the identification needed to vote, revamping of registration rules, and tightening of early voting times. There is evidence that many of these rules have been passed in an attempt to suppress voting by minorities and the young, groups that typically tend to vote for Democratic Party candidates.

Over the past few months the Justice Department has looked into these laws in several states and has weighed in on redistricting efforts in others. In December Holder said of the various voter-related laws, "If a state passes a new voting law and meets its burden of showing that the law is not discriminatory, we will follow the law and approve the change. And where a state can't meet this burden, we will object as part of our obligation under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act."

The issue has now come to a head in Florida which has enacted some of the most restrictive new laws and where Governor Rick Scott recently issued a list of over 200,000 voters, 87 percent of which are Black or Hispanic and has demanded that local voting officials require they provide proof of their right to vote. Sixty-two of these local officials have refused to cooperate and the Justice Department filed suit this evening over the issue. Scott has, in turn, said he will sue the Department of Homeland Security over access to a list which allegedly will allow Florida to improve the quality of its voter purge list.

Today the wrath of both the House and the Senate was unleashed against Holder on two issues completely unrelated to each other and ostensibly only tangentially related to voting rights in the U.S. In the House, one of its most reprehensible members, Darrell Issa, is threatening Holder with charges of contempt of Congress for what Issa claims is perjury on the part of Holder over the so-called "Fast and Furious" gun walking program which was designed (under Bush we might add) to track guns into Mexico. This issue is so convoluted I will not attempt to summarize it but will direct readers to this The Hills article, one of the most evenhanded discussions I have found. While Issa has been pursuing Holder over this issue for months, members of the party leadership have kept their distance until the last few days and then began to pile on. With Boehner now behind it, the contempt vote will probably pass.

At the same time, several leaks of National Security information have prompted Holder to order an investigation and appoint several Department of Justice attorneys to administer it. Today, in a Senate Hearing Texas Senator John Cronyn launched the most vicious attack I have ever heard on a sitting cabinet member, accusing him of, among other things, perjury. He finished by demanding that Holder resign and that the President appoint a replacement who was "honest" and capable of fulfilling the public trust. While Cronyn's diatribe was ostensibly triggered by Holder's refusal to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the leaks, he referenced, among other accusations, what he called Holders attempts to stop state efforts to eliminate voter fraud.

These actions by the Republican members of Congress, at least one of whom is in a leadership position, can be designed for no purpose other than to undermine the attorney general at a minimum and, at a maximum, stop his efforts to uphold voting rights.
If the Republicans are able to accomplish the latter, it will be virtually impossible for the Department of Justice working under an acting attorney general to stop what is going on in the states in time to ensure a legitimate election in November.

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  • Always ... GuruA2J... 2012/06/13 22:03:22
    Always Right
    But it happened on election day 2010, in Philadelphia, PA!
  • GuruA2J... Always ... 2012/06/14 01:15:10
    GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~618 BLOCKT
    +1
    PULEEZ, the tired image y'all like pulling out is from the 2008 cycle.
  • Always ... GuruA2J... 2012/06/14 01:29:25
    Always Right
    Try again dickweed! The NBP did the same intimidation two election cycles in a row, 2008 and 2010!
  • GuruA2J... Always ... 2012/06/14 01:55:56
    GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~618 BLOCKT
    +1
    You just earned yourself a BLOCK also. I refuse to allow y'all haters to engage in vile name-calling, especially when it's towards ME!
  • Live Fr... GuruA2J... 2012/06/14 18:59:34
    Live Free Or Die
    +1
    Sad isn't it? That's all they've got.
  • GuruA2J... Live Fr... 2012/06/15 13:11:28
    GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~618 BLOCKT
    +1
    It sure is & they have the nerve to mock me for my "Blocked CON #." They asked for it & I refuse to be abused by anybody.
  • Live Fr... GuruA2J... 2012/06/15 14:45:41
    Live Free Or Die
    +1
    I hear you Guru. That they expect verbal abuse to not only be tolerated, but that you are never, ever allowed to give it back speaks volumes.
  • GuruA2J... Live Fr... 2012/06/15 14:53:18
    GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~618 BLOCKT
    AMEN
  • Kane Fernau 2012/06/13 15:10:52
    Undecided
    Kane Fernau
    +6
    Innocent people were murdered because of our Attorney General's plan to vilify gun sales.
  • ProudPr... Kane Fe... 2012/06/13 18:48:12
    ProudProgressive
    +2
    The plan came from the Bush Administration, Kane, and while the fact that anyone died is of course a tragedy, it has nothing to do with corruption.

    And, although I know you feel differently, most of us in this country don't like the idea of selling mass quantities of guns to drug cartels, which is exactly why the Bush Administration came up with the idea for "Fast & Furious" in the first place.
  • Kane Fe... ProudPr... 2012/06/13 19:01:44
    Kane Fernau
    +1
    Bush's plan was nothing like Fast and Furious and was ended as most immediately. I don't feel good about our government arming criminals. I'm sure there have been a lot of bad ideas but Obama authorized this and innocents died. It's a high crime and misdemeanor.
  • luvguins 2012/06/13 15:03:05
    Yes, it's a Right Wing Witch Hunt
    luvguins
    +3
    I watched the GOPs pillaring of Holder on C-span yesterday on C-Span and it was disgusting. Simply a payback attempt over their Valerie Plame outing investigated, and the Gonzalez resignation. Cornyn falsely accused Holder if everything he could think of, and called for his resignation. Lindsey Graham kept pushing for a special prosecutor for Fast and Furious started by Bush when Holder already has 2 good prosecutors appointed, one of whom is a Bush appointee. Then another dumbwit whined about an executive appointment the president made when Congress was in recess for 3 days (at the time the GOP tried to say they were still in session having one Congressman still there). Anything to take the focus off their suppression of voter rights across the country, and no doubt their other planned dirty tricks before November.
  • Live Fr... luvguins 2012/06/13 15:31:39
    Live Free Or Die
    +3
    They are playing dirty and it's so obvious to anyone with half a brain. Thanks luv for the information. I watched a little of it and couldn't stand how they were acting. I almost threw up and had to change the channel.
  • ProudPr... luvguins 2012/06/13 18:49:38
    ProudProgressive
    +2
    The bottom line to all of this is the ongoing attempts by the Right Wing to disenfranchise as many American voters as they can. They know they can't win a fair election, so bullsh*t like this is about all they have to fight with.
  • SoCalEx... ProudPr... 2012/06/13 22:09:02
    SoCalEx-Dem
    Do you have ID? tell me how asking for ID to vote is disenfranchising anyone with the right to vote. You have to have it to get any benefits in this country or drive or have a bank account or cash a check. So who doesn't have I.D?
  • luvguins ProudPr... 2012/06/14 00:39:58
    luvguins
    +1
    Yes, and it could disenfranchise up to 5 million legitimate U.S.citizens, many of whom are elderly and have giiven up their driver's licenses so have no other picture IDs required. People registered who have voted before should still be allowed to vote.
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/06/13 14:48:01
    Undecided
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +3
    No - it is about a dead border agent, the guns walked, and the utter disregard for the law and the Congress of the United State of America.
    We already know what he thinks about voter rights - he proved that some time ago with the thugs holding clubs at voting precinct.

    Now, in an effort to be fair, I used to think he was villainous in his actions; I now, after listening to him, realize he is simply out of his depth and needs to be doing something else
  • ProudPr... Jackie ... 2012/06/13 18:54:53
    ProudProgressive
    +2
    Now Jackie, you know as well as I do that the "New Black Panthers" nonscandal was just the first salvo in the racist attacks on the President. It was the BUSH ADMINISTRATION that dropped all the criminal charges in that case before the President even took office. There WAS no voter intimidation, and yet even now the Right Wing continues to bring this nonscandal up over and over again.

    The Attorney General thinks that anyone who has a legal right to vote should be permitted to do so. The Republicans know that the only way they can ever win elections is by suppressing as many legal voters as they can. Holder is trying to protect the rights of Americans, and THAT is why the Right Wing is now going after him. Agent Terry's death was a tragedy, but it was not the result of any illegality or corruption. Fast and Furious was the Bush Administration's idea in the first place, and the fact that there was an error made in some of the implementation doesn't make it a crime.

    I'm glad you agree that Mr. Holder is not villainous, but I have to admit it gets a little tiresome after a while to hear the Right Wing, which has not produced anyone qualified to be a dog catcher, much less a Federal official, for well over a decade constantly attacking people with more intelligence and ability in their little finger than the Republicans have in their entire party as "out of their depth".
  • Jackie ... ProudPr... 2012/06/13 19:25:30 (edited)
  • Live Fr... ProudPr... 2012/06/13 20:24:13
    Live Free Or Die
    +1
    He is trying to protect the rights of voters because after all is said and done, if you catch two frauds it isn't worth disenfranchising thousands.
  • Jackie ... Live Fr... 2012/06/13 22:29:34
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    Who, pray tell, is being disenfranchised? Not one single person.
  • Live Fr... Jackie ... 2012/06/13 22:47:30
    Live Free Or Die
    i've been on here too long and must log off, so i only found this one for now. there is more though, I'm sure.

  • Jackie ... Live Fr... 2012/06/13 22:55:31 (edited)
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +2
    Okay, an example of a screw up by state administrators - this kind of thing has been going on for years - looks like they corrected it on the new forms or at least that is what they said. No system is perfect but "thousands" is a reach - and blaming it on one party is just wrong - Hell, most of government workers are not republicans according to the people who study this sort of thing.
    Holder is not trying to protect these people in this video - he just does not want the dead or illegals off the rolls in Florida , one can only wonder why since no one will be denied a provisional ballot if their status in in question.

    You know that this clean up came about because of people writing in that they could not serve on a jury because they were not citizens and the voter rolls are where the courts get their lists - obviously there is a problem.
  • Live Fr... Jackie ... 2012/06/13 23:05:41
    Live Free Or Die
    I cannot copy links (I have to look them up and hand type them), but I only gave you one example in which some 40,000 voters were estimated to have been unable to vote (eligible voters).

    I do not know if the prosecution of Eric Holder is an attempt to get rid of him because of the voting issue or just because in general they want him out.

    You'll have to take that up with PP. I do think that they haven't been fair. I've seen him give them what they asked for and it seems like to date they're on a witch hunt. I don't care for their tactics either way and because of how they handle themselves, they will never get my vote. Just as you will never vote for Obama, I will never vote for Romney.
  • Seonag 2012/06/13 14:04:40
    Undecided
    Seonag
    +4
    Two separate issues. He's jerked the Committee around long enough on Fast & Furious and deserves contempt charges. As for the Defense of Voting Rights he showed where he stood in 2009 when he dropped voter intimidation charges against the New Black Panthers, so what he is doing regarding Florida is to be expected. Why didn't he go after Tennessee when they did the same thing in 2009 - 2010?
  • ProudPr... Seonag 2012/06/13 18:56:09
    ProudProgressive
    +2
    It's Congress that has jerked him around, my friend, not the other way around. They need cover for their efforts to prevent millions of Americans from voting (since that's the only way they can ever win an election) and Holder, as the man leading the battle to protect the rights of those millions of Americans, is the most convenient scapegoat they can find.
  • Seonag ProudPr... 2012/06/13 20:37:06
    Seonag
    +3
    You sure do like the twist the facts since the F&F issue has been before Congress for well over a year and Congress has been threatening contempt charges for over 3 months now, each time extending the deadline. They should have cracked down on Holder months ago. The 'new issue' of the voting rights is just now coming before congress and is a totally different issue. And the voting rights of 'those millions of Americans' is NOT being infringed on --- only dead people, those who have moved out of a voting district (and usually have re-registered in the new district), those who are NOT US citizens and felons. And they are given plenty of chance to prove that they are properly registered, including voting with a provisional ballot if the matter isn't cleared by election day.
  • cmdrbnd007 2012/06/13 13:22:14
    Undecided
    cmdrbnd007
    +6
    His contempt charges stem from the fact that he is obfuscating the facts regarding "Fast and Furious." For any idiot who doesn't know that happened long before Florida wanted to purge those that are not entitled to vote off their rolls. [...]
  • ProudPr... cmdrbnd007 2012/06/13 18:58:29
    ProudProgressive
    +2
    Republican voter suppression efforts didn't start with the latest illegal acts by Florida. The ALEC inspired voter suppression laws that numerous red states have tried to implement have been around for years, and by now even you must be aware that Katherine Harris threw about 20,000 legal voters off the rolls in Florida in 2000, just in time for George to steal the election. Republicans have realized since Reagan left office that the only way they can win an election is by preventing as many people as possible from voting. Florida's latest illegal attempted purge is only the most recent in a very long line of corruption.
  • Moonage 2012/06/13 13:21:37
    Undecided
    Moonage
    +6
    it's paybacks for Holder telling his staff they don't have to answer to Congress.
  • whitewulf--the unruly mobster 2012/06/13 13:16:46
  • Risk 2012/06/13 12:59:49
    Undecided
    Risk
    +14
    Holder protecting voters rights ..... ? Yer such a card PrdPrg.

    laughing dog
  • Kat ♪ 2012/06/13 12:57:04 (edited)
    Undecided
    Kat ♪
    +10
    No, it's for his actions, and his actions alone. He is not fulfilling his duties and illegally sold guns to drug dealers that resulted in the murders of many people, if a republican did it you would be screaming for his head. States are supposed to, by law clean people from voting rolls periodically that are not eligible, he is obstructing justice, not serving it. Typical of you to have crappy options though.
  • whitewu... Kat ♪ 2012/06/13 13:19:54
  • Mr. T 2012/06/13 12:52:04
    Undecided
    Mr. T
    +8
    Since when does fighting for illegal's to vote have anything to do with "rights"? Illegals DO NOT have the right to vote. When are the LWNJs ever going to get this very simple brain-dead concept?
  • ProudPr... Mr. T 2012/06/13 19:01:17
    ProudProgressive
    +1
    When you get a brain, dead or not, maybe you might understand. No one wants illegals to vote. The Right Wing, on the other hand, has been attempting to disenfranchise as many LEGAL voters as they can. Already hundreds of people on Rick Scott's "purge the hispanic democrats" list have come forward to prove what they shouldn't have had to prove in the first place - that they have a constitutional right to vote. The Right Wing has known for decades that the only way they can win an election is by preventing as many legal voters as they can from casting their votes. That's how they got close enough to steal Florida in 2000, and that's their only chance this year.
  • Mr. T ProudPr... 2012/06/13 19:15:10
    Mr. T
    +1
    "No one wants illegals to vote." BS!!! This is all I needed to hear to realize your are one of the brain-dead.
  • goblue1968 2012/06/13 12:50:12
    Obligatory "I Hate Obama" Option
    goblue1968
    +2
    I'm just glad that I am serving as an election inspector (as I have in every election since 2000) again to prevent voter fraud from occurring at the polling place where I serve.

    There's nothing more that I can do to delete names from the ballot who are illegal according to the requirements of the U.S. Constitution. My local election official has told us that we are not permitted to discuss anything political while we are serving during the election period (7:00AM-8:00PM on election days).
  • voice_m... goblue1968 2012/06/13 17:21:16
    voice_matters
    if only you could remove names
  • ProudPr... goblue1968 2012/06/13 19:20:36
    ProudProgressive
    +1
    If there is any evidence that a registered voter is illegal then they SHOULD be prevented from voting. The problem with the illegal purges brought by people like Rick Scott is that they are not even TRYING to actually identify illegal voters. They are simply targeting hispanic democrats because they are hispanic democrats. You know, I hope, that every county commissioner in Florida is refusing to go along with Rick Scott because they have all seen first hand that these lists are directed at legal voters.

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