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Are politicians who claim there is a "War on ________" really perpetrating a war on the American people?

iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~ 2012/04/12 19:58:34
Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
No...I believe that my interests are truly threatened by my fellow citizens.
Possibly...but what can I do about it?
The rhetoric is wrong...but it is necessary to the process.
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America is involved in one full war, and five military operations generally, internationally.

Domestically, it seems, we're involved in an infinite amount of wars against each other. That is, if you believe any politician or pundit these days.

The rich are at war with the poor, and the poor with the rich.

The Democrats are fighting a war against jobs.

The Republicans are fighting a war against women.

The DEMOCRATS are fighting a war against women.

The Democrats are fighting a war against religion.

The Republicans are fighting a war against the civil rights of gay men and women.

Gay men and women are fighting a war against the family.

The Catholics are fighting a war against children.

The corporations are fighting a war against the environment.

And on...and on.

It is time, I think, that the American people stop listening to this rhetorical hysteria. We need to stand up and say "We will not allow you to make us afraid of each other so that you can keep your power." We must no longer be tricked into seeing each other as the enemy, and demand that the government stop blaming people for one problem or another, start cutting its spending on what we can agree on immediately and stop fighting over what we can't agree on right now, and start working together for solutions.

Anyone claiming party loyalty is disloyal to America. And anyone claiming that the other side is waging a war on whatever is perpetrating a war on the American people as a whole.
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  • holly go lightly 2012/04/12 21:43:44
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    holly go lightly
    +9
    The war on anything is meant to divide and divert attention away from the real messes they are making DC.

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  • William 2012/04/16 19:24:21
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    William
    +2
    The "war" rhetoric allows administrations leeway in pursuing agendas. Saying something is a war lets them act as if it were so, suspending the observance of constitutional restraints, etc.. So with the "war on drugs" the DEA can dress like military commandos and bust down a door, like they were storming a hill in a third world battlefield.
  • vdehl 2012/04/16 06:24:03
    No...I believe that my interests are truly threatened by my fellow citizens.
    vdehl
    Unfortunately people live that way. People can become vociferous, even violent about anything it seems. I believe I live in a time and place that is, if not at war regarding me, it is always in conflict. I have trouble finding places to stay awhile. All sorts of Hispanic clerks and other personnel are always trying to find some way for the cops to trespass me, so I won't come back. This possibly has to do with my past during which I worked for several levels of government at various times. They have a way to make one fall deep asleep, unconscious. And then when you regain, you look up to them usually with a cop, complaining that you fell asleep. All in one motion the cop asks for your ID and proceeds to write an order of trespass, so you never return to the establishment. Not that one likes to stay where one is not wanted, the problem is that there are a number of limited places that stay open.
    Now think about this, regardless of my or your political persuasion... What about our inalienable rights, our civil rights??? Who is that smallish restaurant waiter or cook to invade your body and put you in a trance? Isn't there something wrong with that? Would you, a decent person, apply those techniques to another human being? I know I would not use anything like that except as a la...

    Unfortunately people live that way. People can become vociferous, even violent about anything it seems. I believe I live in a time and place that is, if not at war regarding me, it is always in conflict. I have trouble finding places to stay awhile. All sorts of Hispanic clerks and other personnel are always trying to find some way for the cops to trespass me, so I won't come back. This possibly has to do with my past during which I worked for several levels of government at various times. They have a way to make one fall deep asleep, unconscious. And then when you regain, you look up to them usually with a cop, complaining that you fell asleep. All in one motion the cop asks for your ID and proceeds to write an order of trespass, so you never return to the establishment. Not that one likes to stay where one is not wanted, the problem is that there are a number of limited places that stay open.
    Now think about this, regardless of my or your political persuasion... What about our inalienable rights, our civil rights??? Who is that smallish restaurant waiter or cook to invade your body and put you in a trance? Isn't there something wrong with that? Would you, a decent person, apply those techniques to another human being? I know I would not use anything like that except as a last recourse if I wasn't able to contain an extremely violent, dangerous person.
    Is this how Whitney Houston die? After a lot of torture previously, with her erratic ambulating, did the maintenance workers put her to sleep thinking that she was in bed, while she was in the tub, and in that trance like, rigid or numb state she drowned with the tiny amount of water. Is up to all of us to put an end to that sleepy trespassing routine, believe me.
    The partisan rhetoric obliterates everything, but at times, everything is "the truth that dares not speak its name." So people repeat the same things. "What? You think there are Martians in the room with us here at party headquarters???" outer space Republicans Democrats outer space Republicans Democrats
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  • Darnel 2012/04/14 21:58:20
    The rhetoric is wrong...but it is necessary to the process.
    Darnel
    +1
    (Picked one to answer)

    Overuse of the word "War" maybe. And too much of one side pointing the finger at the other side on stuff that isn't studied.
  • goblue1968 2012/04/14 16:23:10
    The rhetoric is wrong...but it is necessary to the process.
    goblue1968
    +1
    None of the choices in this poll were a good fit for my opinion, so I picked this one just to get to the "comment" window. The word "war" shouldn't be used in such a superfluous manner as it is nowadays, but the rhetoric is part of the opinion exchanging process. I've done some research into election history, and what you are witnessing today is child's play compared to the rhetoric of some 19th century elections!!
  • iamthem... goblue1968 2012/06/13 18:45:29
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    But it seems that you're arguing that because that's the way people have used rhetoric traditionally that means that the rhetoric is appropriate.

    I would argue that regardless of whether or not this is better or worse than before, objectively it should be considered abhorrent for politicians - civil servants, remember - to resort to it in order to consolidate power.
  • goblue1968 iamthem... 2012/06/18 15:46:28
    goblue1968
    +1
    I think I see what you mean, that the rhetoric is beyond presenting cases for particular positions and is more for making voters choose sides against each other, so particular politicians are able to declare "Vote for me, I'm on your side!"

    Also, using arguments to present one's case is one thing, but nobody should actually lie about somebody else as part of their argument, e.g. years ago when Ted Kennedy was telling people that the Republicans wanted to make your grandmother eat dog food.
  • Reggie☮ 2012/04/13 23:40:23
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    Reggie☮
    +1
    The only war going on is the one on American Citizens, every "ACT" that gets signed is an act to strip away our freedom and privacy. The government wants complete control of each and everyone of us. If we all don't come together we will be controlled by the government like puppets.
  • seattleman 2012/04/13 22:14:06 (edited)
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    seattleman
    +2
    I don't like the term "war" being used so frivolously. While it may be true that women's rights are being chipped away by the GOP, please don't label it as a bumper sticker slogan "War on Women". I mean, why does everything have to be condensed into sound bites and slogans, anyway?



    Only Hitler was Hitler. Only war is war. (How's that for a sound bite?)
  • iamthem... seattleman 2012/06/13 18:46:37
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    I'd buy that on a bumper sticker. :-)
  • hippietim 2012/04/13 17:15:55
    No...I believe that my interests are truly threatened by my fellow citizens.
    hippietim
    +1
    I tried 2 click Yes. Especially the 'War on Drugs', it has led these United States 2 have the largest jail/prison population in the world(by a huge margin), and has eliminated the utilization of potientially most useful plant on earth(marijuana)!

    Timothy

    :o) I m a hippie who votes
  • Linkums 2012/04/13 15:26:34
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    Linkums
    +4
    It's pitting Americans against each other with falsified threats in order to get their vote.
  • H H 2012/04/13 05:27:19
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    H H
    +4
    You got it! Every time the government wages a "war" on something, it turns out to be a war against our liberties, freedoms, and prosperity. The war on drugs, the war on poverty, the war on terrorism, etc. None of them are making things better.
  • BlytheSpirit~bn0 2012/04/13 05:00:25
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    BlytheSpirit~bn0
    +5
    Basically, it's to demonize the people and keep them pitted against each other and divided. Apart we are very weak, but together we are very strong. Their goal is to keep us weak and it appears to be working.
  • Leo 2012/04/13 04:09:44
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    Leo
    +2
    Keep it up. If I can get the United States crashed by this December, my apocalypse will go way smoother.
  • iamthem... Leo 2012/04/13 04:24:24
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +2
    Dear Satan:

    Is this why you haven't been returning my calls? Because you've been getting the Dems and Repubs to get us to fight each other in the name of political power?

    If so...that's cool. I just want to know....
  • Leo iamthem... 2012/04/13 04:25:40 (edited)
    Leo
    +3
    You keep calling Albert Einstein. I gave him my old phone. He's trying to do afterlife science and you keep interrupting him.

    And yes, I have. I successfully convinced the Liberals to believe that Conservatives are evil fascists and the Conservatives that Liberals are evil socialists.

    It's going to make the December apocalypse a lot easier. I'm thinking about a week and the Earth is mine.
  • iamthem... Leo 2012/04/13 04:29:38
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    That makes sense! Sorry for the confusion...and tell Albie that I owe him a drink and some nibbles.

    Good to hear all goes well! You sound busy...just to check, then, is your lake (of fire) house still free in January? I'm trying to see if I can get enough people together for the weekend...
  • Leo iamthem... 2012/04/13 04:33:15
  • iamthem... Leo 2012/04/13 04:43:29
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +3
    Science?

    That sounds like witchcraft to me.

    BURN THE WITCH!
  • Leo iamthem... 2012/04/13 04:49:55
    Leo
    +2
    Please do. Low lifespans and ability to cure disease also makes for an easy apocalypse.

    Would you prefer a zombie apocalypse or a nuclear apocalypse?

    I'm thinking zombie apocalypse for 2012. Everyone loves zombie apocalypses. People won't even be mad.
  • BlytheS... Leo 2012/04/13 05:04:32
    BlytheSpirit~bn0
    +2
    Um, I'll take that cabin. :) ill cabin
  • Leo BlytheS... 2012/04/13 05:06:00
    Leo
    +2
    No, the one in hell is a bit bigger, and it has a pool.
  • BlytheS... Leo 2012/04/13 05:13:55
    BlytheSpirit~bn0
    +2
    Okay. I'd like to apply for that one.
  • ronbo 2012/04/13 03:59:25 (edited)
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    ronbo
    +4
    Every time they declare war on something, we seem to lose more freedom and privacy in this country. Makes you wonder what they,re really up to.
  • Tennyson James 2012/04/13 02:38:52
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    Tennyson James
    +1
    It's just another way to fuel the partisan fires.
  • ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠ 2012/04/13 01:34:52
    No...I believe that my interests are truly threatened by my fellow citizens.
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    Ugh! Damn these jumping screens!
  • iamthem... ☠ Live ... 2012/04/13 02:19:46
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    Did you mean to vote the other way then?
  • ☠ Live ... iamthem... 2012/04/13 19:17:34
  • john Kills 2012/04/13 01:31:09
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    john Kills
    +1
    The real war IS against the American people and our constitution. It's time to do more than talk. The politician on both side are not listening to protests of the American people and voting is a tool used to trick us into believing we can make a difference. They have declared war and have threatened us with violence if we don't submit to their will. I think we should accept their term of war.
  • travele... john Kills 2012/04/14 04:02:53
    traveler818
    +1
    I think it is inevitable.
  • @TheMissesHelp <-Follow/Twe... 2012/04/13 01:26:06
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    @TheMissesHelp <-Follow/Tweet me
    +2
    Sandra Fluke going to a $100,000 university asking for $3,000 worth tax-covered birth control was a joke.

    Obama talking about his wife having to work because they didn't have the "luxury" of her staying home with their kids as she got $300,000 a year for her job and he got $100,000 for his as a Harvard professor was a joke.

    Mainstream media's propaganda encouraging gender and racial wars is a joke.

    Obama keeping the fact that women who work for him earn $40,000 less than men a secret was a joke.

    I can't wait to help present the biggest referendum to our dear dictator-wannabe and his media matters goonies November 2012.

    Twitter @TheMissesHelp
  • iamthem... @TheMis... 2012/04/13 02:23:21
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    The above seems, ironically, HIGHLY partisan.

    Sandra Fluke, for instance, was arguing a policy position she viewed as important...and as a student, was not working as a political leader. How does that apply to those actively pushing the "war on" rhetoric?
  • @TheMis... iamthem... 2012/04/13 15:51:20
    @TheMissesHelp <-Follow/Tweet me
    +1
    Never take anything presented from DC at face value. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-...

    Rosen has met with Obama more than 20 times. She is affiliated and represents Fluke. Fluke didn't come from nowhere. She didn't choose a RELIGIOUS university for no reason. This has been in the works for a long time, and Rosen attacking Ann Romney on CNN for being a stay athome mom is no different because it's all directives from the Obama Administration.
  • iamthem... @TheMis... 2012/04/13 15:57:23
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    That's some high-level paranoia indeed.

    This is the problem with the partisan rhetoric - it becomes more likely that this woman was somehow groomed and planted to create a controversy...rather than simply responding to something she found important as a woman.

    Agree with her or not...seeing that much nefarious attempt sort of proves my entire point.
  • cuz 2012/04/13 01:04:34
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    cuz
    +3
    The way I see it there is only one man addressing this very problem.

    http://www.blinkx.com/watch-v...
  • EdVenture 2012/04/13 00:31:51
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    EdVenture
    +1
    I agree, I think that things are going down the tubes fast. This is not a healthy path for anyone in any party. Seems to me we are being thrown under the bus. If we allow them to succeed and persist we will likely be in another civil war. This situation reminds me of a chapter I read in a book years ago "Scale Economies" that explained the word balkanization and how it came to be from the collapse of the Balkans due to an overlapping of muti jurisdictions and opinions which ultimately resulted in their demise.
  • lee 2012/04/12 23:45:02
    No...I believe that my interests are truly threatened by my fellow citizens.
    lee
    the nutbags running around with guns and looking for the END TIMES are doing more to make life miserable than anything a politician can do.
  • Julian 2012/04/12 23:23:53
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    Julian
    +3
    That's very astute, a war on anything is really a war on people. The war on drugs, the war on terror, even the war on cancer - they all seek to restrict people's behavior and are therefore essentially fighting against freedom. Now, most people would say that fighting terrorism is a good thing, but who can deny that liberty has been a victim of that conflict?
  • The Patriot RP 2012 2012/04/12 23:05:33
    Yes...this partisan war rhetoric is the most damaging thing for our country.
    The Patriot RP 2012
    +1
    Its the asses of both the Democrat and Republican Parties and their supporters!!! They want absolute power!!!
  • S and S 2012/04/12 23:01:20
    No...I believe that my interests are truly threatened by my fellow citizens.
    S and S
    +3
    I've been stating for years that this NWO government is intentionally driving a hatred wedge between all of us. race, religion, political affiliation, gender, sexual orientations, abortion, wealth, entitlements, etc. we need to wake up and realize the true enemy is our GOVERNMENT

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