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Are Gay Rights The Same As Civil Rights?

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  • ZeldaFan13 2013/03/07 01:43:02
    Yes
    ZeldaFan13
    +1
    "Gay Rights are Human Rights"

    -Hillary Clinton-
  • sjalan 2013/02/27 04:05:11
    Yes
    sjalan
    +1
    BASIC CIVIL RIGHTS belong to ALL CITIZENS regardless of who we are.

    When it comes to employment, basic governmental benefits, civil marriage These are all protected items of our basic civil rights.

    James Madison WARNED that our nation NEEDED the Bill of Rights when he introduced them to the Congressional Constitution Committee. In that introduction he made a very plain and simple argument which as we can see held true then and holds true today. He said:

    "In our Government it is, perhaps, less necessary to guard against the abuse in the executive department than any other; because it is not the stronger branch of the system, but the weaker. It therefore must be leveled against the legislative, for it is the most powerful, and most likely to be abused, because it is under the least control. Hence, so far as a declaration of rights can tend to prevent the exercise of undue power, it cannot be doubted but such declaration is proper.

    But I confess that I do conceive that in a Government modified like this of the United States, the great danger lies rather in the abuse of the community than in the legislative body.

    The prescriptions in favor of liberty ought to be leveled against that quarter where the greatest danger lies, namely, that which possesses the highest prerogati...





    BASIC CIVIL RIGHTS belong to ALL CITIZENS regardless of who we are.

    When it comes to employment, basic governmental benefits, civil marriage These are all protected items of our basic civil rights.

    James Madison WARNED that our nation NEEDED the Bill of Rights when he introduced them to the Congressional Constitution Committee. In that introduction he made a very plain and simple argument which as we can see held true then and holds true today. He said:

    "In our Government it is, perhaps, less necessary to guard against the abuse in the executive department than any other; because it is not the stronger branch of the system, but the weaker. It therefore must be leveled against the legislative, for it is the most powerful, and most likely to be abused, because it is under the least control. Hence, so far as a declaration of rights can tend to prevent the exercise of undue power, it cannot be doubted but such declaration is proper.

    But I confess that I do conceive that in a Government modified like this of the United States, the great danger lies rather in the abuse of the community than in the legislative body.

    The prescriptions in favor of liberty ought to be leveled against that quarter where the greatest danger lies, namely, that which possesses the highest prerogative of power.

    But it is not found in either the executive or legislative departments of Government,

    but in the body of the people, operating by the majority against the minority."

    The single most visible actions today of the various groups against the basic civil rights of ALL citizens who would chose to have others treated differently based upon THEIR dogma, doctrines and beliefs are aimed at the MINORITIES of our country. It is these minorities that Madison was speaking about, be it based upon race, color, national origin, sex or sexual orientation. It is all about the majority against the minority.
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  • Magus BN-0 2013/02/26 03:17:11
    Yes
    Magus BN-0
    +1
    Of course. Civil rights are civil rights, regardless of whether the person whose rights are being infringed is straight or gay.
  • hayleythepinkprincess 2013/02/24 19:19:28
    No
    hayleythepinkprincess
    i dont think gays rights are the same but we should have the same rights ans anyone
  • Live Free Or Die 2013/02/24 16:15:34
    Yes
    Live Free Or Die
    +1
    Yes, equal treatment under the law is a civil right and a human right.
  • addie 2013/02/24 15:01:14
    Yes
    addie
    +3
    YES!
    But they still need to be discussed separately because of religious zealots.
  • ddd 2013/02/24 05:12:16
    Yes
    ddd
    +1
    You see if we said we were denying them civil rights it would be harder to justify. We called it defense of marriage, a religious act, protected under the 1st, and 14th amendments. See now we can justify discrimination to our grandkids.
  • Live Fr... ddd 2013/02/24 16:57:39
    Live Free Or Die
    +1
    Maybe they interpret the Constitution differently, but the 1st Amendment says no law shall be made respecting any religion and the 14th Amendment cites equal protection for all citizens.
  • ddd Live Fr... 2013/02/24 17:00:40
    ddd
    Well with the right amount of effort, anyone can misinterpret the constitution to extrapolate the authorization for their stupid unconstitutional ideas.
  • Live Fr... ddd 2013/02/24 17:17:29
    Live Free Or Die
    +1
    I understand what you mean, though I won't assume all of their arguments are wrong, such as the right of priests and churches not to marry gays or anyone else. But they have a harder argument to make denying them the same right as any other couple to get a license from the town hall and a JP to make it legal because of their religious beliefs.
  • Masaca 2013/02/24 05:05:57 (edited)
    Yes
    Masaca
    +3
    Yes, of course, and more so Human Rights
  • addie Masaca 2013/02/24 15:02:37
    addie
    +1
    Liberal nut job! lol
    No, I'm kidding, I like what you said a lot!
    Human, GD rights!
  • realityjunkie 2013/02/24 04:50:09
  • Resp 2013/02/24 04:31:00
    No
    Resp
    Gay rights are special rights. Equal rights for all, special rights for none.
  • Spizzzo... Resp 2013/02/24 06:02:40
    Spizzzo BN-0
    +1
    Huh? Please explain.
  • Resp Spizzzo... 2013/02/24 08:41:29
    Resp
    +1
    Aren't gays special?
  • addie Resp 2013/02/24 15:03:19
    addie
    +1
    but not in the way you mean, I think. lol
  • Spizzzo... Resp 2013/03/02 09:24:27
    Spizzzo BN-0
    +1
    No, not really. They are your regular, standard humans--expressions of the "normal variation" of human, just like brown vs. blond hair or Democratic vs. Republican attitudes.
  • Live Fr... Resp 2013/02/24 16:17:52
    Live Free Or Die
    +1
    All rights are equal. There are no special rights.
  • Resp Live Fr... 2013/02/24 23:52:46
    Resp
    Civil Rights are not equal.
  • Live Fr... Resp 2013/02/25 03:30:26
    Live Free Or Die
    +1
    Civil rights are about having the same rights as everyone else, not special rights.
  • Resp Live Fr... 2013/02/25 05:21:46
    Resp
    Civil Rights were intended for African Americans according to Thurgood Marshall.

    Civil Rights actually only apply to the citizens within a country or within its borders.
  • philldclarke 2013/02/24 03:40:45
  • xcheshirecat 2013/02/24 02:26:42
    Yes
    xcheshirecat
    +3
    they are civil rights
  • Kaleokualoha 2013/02/24 01:42:07
    Yes
    Kaleokualoha
    +3
    Gay rights are a subset of human rights, also known as "civil rights" in America.
  • Lolaita 2013/02/24 01:26:34
    Yes
    Lolaita
    +2
    Marriage is a civil right granted to you by the constitution. If you don't have that right and are fighting for it, you are fighting for your civil rights to be recognized by your country.
  • DeejaySpaniel 2013/02/23 23:51:58
    Yes
    DeejaySpaniel
    +2
    Sort of. Gay rights is a part of the civil rights movement, the two are not inherently separate, but neither are they dependant on one another.

    Gay, straight, black, white, marriage is a civil right!
  • hippycat 2013/02/23 23:37:50
    Yes
    hippycat
    +4
    yes, of course, they are. gays have been persecuted for centuries and were often jailed. so, yes, whilst the numbers might be smaller, the issue is the same.
  • KSJR362 - Not what you think 2013/02/23 23:29:31
    Yes
    KSJR362 - Not what you think
    +3
    Any groups battle for equity under civil law is a battle for civil rights.
  • MissLeviathan 2013/02/23 23:12:15
    Yes
    MissLeviathan
    +3
    If by civil rights you mean human rights then yes, yes they are.
  • ♚Littlɘ Ǫuɘɘn~Phaet's Own 2013/02/23 23:09:13
    Yes
    ♚Littlɘ Ǫuɘɘn~Phaet's Own
    +3
    Civil rights are civil rights, for one and for all.
  • Lerro DeHazel 2013/02/23 23:07:02
  • Spizzzo... Lerro D... 2013/02/24 06:04:56 (edited)
    Spizzzo BN-0
    +3
    Huh? What in the HECK are you talking about? Are you saying you hate all liberties?

    ***** NOTE THAT AT THIS POINT, THE COWARDLY 'LERRO D' BLOCKS ME SO I MAY NOT RESPOND TO HIS NONSENSE. CLEARLY, HE HAS NO ANSWER TO MY POINTS. SO, I WIN*****
  • Lerro D... Spizzzo... 2013/02/25 00:11:08
    Lerro DeHazel
    No, you are using the word HATE because you are used to hiding behind the 4-Letter -Word for your own Self-Satisfaction, all of your life. (I said THAT!) What I am saying is if only you will just go back and read it . . . There Are Waaaaaay Too Many Political Groups That Abuse The Rights Of EVERYONE By Demanding Special Priveleges For Their Worthless Gutless Selves. Common Sense will tell you that. HECK HECKLER HECKEL HOOKLA
  • Straud1976 2013/02/23 22:26:44
    Yes
    Straud1976
    +3
    Absolutly
  • Kurt 2013/02/23 22:20:15
    No
    Kurt
    +1
    Hell no.
  • jwjpaepnl Kurt 2013/02/23 22:30:51
  • Wyveryx 2013/02/23 21:42:59
    No
    Wyveryx
    +1
    Until there is absolute proof that being homosexuality is something that you are born into, it is nothing more than a choice of lifestyle.
    If it is a choice, then I why can't I marry myself and get some serious discounts and tax breaks? After all, I love myself too.
  • jwjpaepnl Wyveryx 2013/02/23 22:31:07
  • MadMax jwjpaepnl 2013/02/24 02:00:47
    MadMax
    +2
    Playing idiots advocate, where is your proof to back that up? And don't get uppity. I'm just saying you can't just make a declarative sentence and expect it to be treated as a valid argument.

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