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Are democrats more likely than republicans to get food stamps, Section 8 housing and Medicaid ?

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  • MCSniper is outta here....s... 2009/01/16 02:01:05
    no
    MCSniper is outta here....see ya
    +19
    Actually, if you look at the statistics instead of go by stereotypes those receiving government aid are more likely to be republican. Here's the facts.

    According to the statistics, whites form the largest racial group on welfare:

    Race
    --------------
    White 38.8%
    Black 37.2
    Hispanic 17.8
    Asian 2.8
    Other 3.4

    The majority of these are women and children. Since children don't vote, that leaves the women which are mostly between the ages of 20-29.

    Now if you look at the demographic makeup of the republican versus democratic party. The republican party has a larger percentage of it's members being white. According to polls of delegates conducted by The New York Times and CBS News, 93 percent of the Republican delegates are white (compared with 85 percent in 2004 and 89 percent in 2000), while 5 percent are Hispanic and 2 percent are black. The Democratic delegate pool in Denver, according to the survey, was 65 percent white, 23 percent black and 11 percent Hispanic, roughly the same as at other recent Democratic conventions.

    So if you look at the statistics. A welfare recipient is more likely to be a white female republican. Looks like Ann Coulter will have to rethink her new book........ :)

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  • Joyfromky grizzly 2009/01/16 06:38:47
    Joyfromky
    +3
    I did too....but I am not a registered democrat I am one of those independents...
    I just hate to see any group singled out and painted with the same brush.
  • grizzly Joyfromky 2009/01/16 07:06:38
    grizzly
    +3
    I pick on all of them.
  • Moralit... Joyfromky 2009/01/17 23:25:35
    Morality PLEASE!!!
    dumby
  • Moralit... grizzly 2009/01/17 23:25:16
    Morality PLEASE!!!
    dumby
  • thakatc... grizzly 2009/01/16 12:20:21
  • El Jefe Joyfromky 2009/01/16 06:01:09
    El Jefe
    There really was no answer there, just a simple stat.
  • Joyfromky El Jefe 2009/01/16 06:13:15
    Joyfromky
    +2
    I have never filled out an application but I seriously doubt it asks for your party affiliation so stats is all we have to go by.
  • Mollybdamned American Atheist 2009/01/16 04:34:45
    Undecided
    Mollybdamned American Atheist
    +5
    Depends which state you live in. The Southern states that are very economically depressed probably have democrats on welfare out numbered. Then there are states that have more Democrats, they may outnumber Republicans on the welfare rolls. I don't know that anyone has done a recent (with this economy) study on which states have the highest number of either party. But it would be interesting to find out.
  • brob1969 2009/01/16 02:55:14
    Undecided
    brob1969
    +2
    Likely it is the unaffiliated.
  • Feck Sodahed 2009/01/16 02:54:42
    no
    Feck Sodahed
    +7
    Statistics show that the the states with the highest welfare and food stamp recipients are the states that are overwhelmingly the "Red" or Republican states.
  • MCSniper is outta here....s... 2009/01/16 02:01:05
    no
    MCSniper is outta here....see ya
    +19
    Actually, if you look at the statistics instead of go by stereotypes those receiving government aid are more likely to be republican. Here's the facts.

    According to the statistics, whites form the largest racial group on welfare:

    Race
    --------------
    White 38.8%
    Black 37.2
    Hispanic 17.8
    Asian 2.8
    Other 3.4

    The majority of these are women and children. Since children don't vote, that leaves the women which are mostly between the ages of 20-29.

    Now if you look at the demographic makeup of the republican versus democratic party. The republican party has a larger percentage of it's members being white. According to polls of delegates conducted by The New York Times and CBS News, 93 percent of the Republican delegates are white (compared with 85 percent in 2004 and 89 percent in 2000), while 5 percent are Hispanic and 2 percent are black. The Democratic delegate pool in Denver, according to the survey, was 65 percent white, 23 percent black and 11 percent Hispanic, roughly the same as at other recent Democratic conventions.

    So if you look at the statistics. A welfare recipient is more likely to be a white female republican. Looks like Ann Coulter will have to rethink her new book........ :)
  • El Jefe MCSnipe... 2009/01/16 03:49:28
    El Jefe
    +3
    Sorry Sniper I find flaw with your logic, first of all you have not included the percentage of what each group represents in total the total population. And most importantly you have not included the most important statistic what political affiliation are represented in each group. Sorry but it just tells me race percentages recieving welfair and thats it.
  • MCSnipe... El Jefe 2009/01/16 11:02:06
    MCSniper is outta here....see ya
    +3
    There are no statistics on democrat vs republican on welfare.

    However, if you look at it applying the rules of logic, there are more whites on welfare, there are more whites in the republican party, ergo logic dictates, there are more republicans on welfare.
  • El Jefe MCSnipe... 2009/01/16 15:44:29 (edited)
    El Jefe
    +1
    So I went to the sensus website and pullded some more data for you to crunch.
    Population
    White 75.1%
    Black 12.9 %
    Hispanic 12.5%
    Now with a white population of almost 6 times the next closest, in order to validate your claim you would expect that the percentage on welfare would be 6 times grater than the next, but that is not the case. The data that you presented says that out of all people receiving welfare 38.7% are white not that 38.7% of white are receiving welfare. Check your logic again.
  • MCSnipe... El Jefe 2009/01/16 20:37:54
    MCSniper is outta here....see ya
    +1
    I know what I said in my statistics, you missed the point.

    This is simple logic 101 from any freshman college logic class

    A:More welfare recipients are white
    +B:More Republicans are white
    =C:More people on welfare are republicans

    It has nothing to do with the statistics of the population as a whole as the population as a whole is not included in our data.

    Another one, the majority of welfare recipients live in the South. A solidly Republican area of the country. You can talk about percentages there as well, but the fact remains. The majority of welfare recipients are, statistically speaking, white, female, republicans with one child.

    They are on the system less than 4 months on average before returning to work. So your idea about fundamental values of entitlement don't hold water either. Welfare programs as a whole constitute less than 1% of the governmental budget. So your idea that you are working to support someone who doesn't is bogus as well. If you want to know where the majority of your money goes, look to companies like Haliburton. They have been getting the biggest slice of the government budget for years now. (thanks to Dick Cheney and no bid contracts) This is the same company that poisons soldiers. Watch this....

  • El Jefe MCSnipe... 2009/01/16 21:30:23
    El Jefe
    +1
    Using your simple logic if 75.1 percent of the population is white and more Republicans are white then why do the Democrats control the House, the Senate and in a few short days the white house? So I did some calculations and found if there are 281,421,906 people in the US.
    211,347,851 would be white
    36,303,425 would be black
    35,177,738 would be hispanic
    now using 3,866,581 for a value of welfare receipients
    1,500,233 White .7%
    1,438,386 Black 3.9%
    688,251 Hispanic 1.9%
    Yes we see that there are more whites on welfare but at least half of them would have to be democrats based on how we as a Country vote peope in to office.
  • MCSnipe... El Jefe 2009/01/16 21:34:30
    MCSniper is outta here....see ya
    +2
    Nope, the only reason the democrats control the white house and congress is that so many middle of the road progressives (like myself) were pissed off enough at what the republicans have been doing the past several years that we sided with the democratic ticket. That and the fact that more people than ever before actually voted in this election.
  • El Jefe MCSnipe... 2009/01/16 21:54:00
    El Jefe
    +2
    So your logic works one way but not the other.
  • MCSnipe... El Jefe 2009/01/16 22:04:48
    MCSniper is outta here....see ya
    +3
    No, it works both ways. There were many republicans that voted democratic in this election as well. Registered republicans but middle of the road philosophically.
  • stephen MCSnipe... 2010/09/14 20:47:03
    stephen
    +2
    That is the worst logic I have ever seen. If you passed college logic, get your money back.
  • Dave Sa... MCSnipe... 2009/01/16 05:07:34
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    +3
    That doesn't provide any direct count of Democrats or Republicans.
  • MCSnipe... Dave Sa... 2009/01/16 11:02:34
    MCSniper is outta here....see ya
    +2
    See my reply to El Jefe above.... :)
  • tyler 2009/01/16 01:51:59 (edited)
  • God ~ I... tyler 2009/01/16 03:32:11
  • thakatc... tyler 2009/01/16 13:49:06
  • spidermonkey™POTL~PWCM~JLA☮... 2009/01/16 01:49:36 (edited)
    yes
    spidermonkey™POTL~PWCM~JLA☮Paul
    I reserve the right to change my vote...it doesn't sound very nice to put a whole party of people into one sterotype like this...I agree that people on both sides need help...maybe the way the parties help is different, but people of all races and ages need help.

    I did however find these satistics: Poverty in the United States, 2007

    Poverty
    The poverty rate in 2007 was 12.5%, not statistically different from 2006. Some 37.3 million people were poor in 2007— up from about 36.5 million in 2006.

    For Hispanics, 21.5% were in poverty in 2007, up from 20.6% in 2006. Poverty rates remained statistically unchanged for non-Hispanic whites (8.2%), blacks (24.5%) and Asians (10.2%) in 2007.
  • God ~ I... spiderm... 2009/01/16 03:32:22
  • El Jefe 2009/01/16 01:33:21
    yes
    El Jefe
    +4
    Absolutely, it is about your fundamental values.
    Do you get what you work for, or are you entitled to it.
    That is about as basic a description as I can give.
  • God ~ I... El Jefe 2009/01/16 03:32:36
  • El Jefe God ~ I... 2009/01/16 03:57:09
    El Jefe
    +1
    Are you talking about the statistics above? See my response and tell me I am wrong.
  • God ~ I... El Jefe 2009/01/16 03:59:09
  • El Jefe God ~ I... 2009/01/16 04:01:16
    El Jefe
    Enlighten me!
  • God ~ I... El Jefe 2009/01/16 04:08:25
  • El Jefe God ~ I... 2009/01/16 04:18:05
    El Jefe
    +1
    Lots of good information there but no link direct link that says which party receives welfair. I saw charts with show tax to spending ratio but that does no more to prove a welfair reciepient to a party affiliation than does MCSnipers data.
  • God ~ I... El Jefe 2009/01/16 04:24:18
  • El Jefe God ~ I... 2009/01/16 04:41:38
    El Jefe
    +1
    Invalid, you still can't tie person by party affiliation to welfare. In the red states what percentage of total population are Democrat and what percentage receive welfare. Both of those statistics tell us something but not how many of each party receive welfare. Please think about this before responding.
  • Dave Sa... God ~ I... 2009/01/16 05:11:12
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    +2
    But most of them are nearly half Democrat. The individuals in a State don't vote in unison.
  • noopinion El Jefe 2009/01/16 05:03:25
    noopinion
    +1
    It's welfare dude!
  • El Jefe noopinion 2009/01/16 05:21:05
    El Jefe
    +1
    Your right sorry, I don't receive it.
  • noopinion El Jefe 2009/01/16 05:26:02
    noopinion
    +2
    Neither do I smart ass, I just didn't smoke dope in school so spelling comes easy for me.

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