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Are Conservatives proud to be uneducated- Santorum thinks you should be ?

2012 Obama 2012/02/28 00:14:03
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According to Santorum President Obama is a "snob" for thinking college and higher education should be a goal for everyone.

The fact is unemployment for people with a college education is at 4.4% and for people with only a high school education it is 9.9%

College and higher education opens many doors for economic success and statistics show people that go to college are healthier and generally happier and their kids have more opportunities and their kids will also usually go to college.

Now I know there are educated Conservatives out there and even Santorum has an undergraduate, law degree and MBA and has said he wants his own kids to go to college.

So why would he want YOU and your family to not go to college or get a higher education ?

Maybe it is because college educated people generally become more worldly and educated to other cultures, races and ideology allowing them to be less biased and more open to differences and more open to change.

Maybe it is because college educated people generally lose their rigid thinking including political ideology that was taught them at home and many students that grew up in Conservative households no longer feel restricted to that ideology.

Santorum wants you and your family to not go to college and get a higher education and why do you think that is ?
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  • Gloria Diaz 2012/03/13 23:11:14
    College and higher education helps people...
    Gloria Diaz
    I work with someone at one of my three jobs and it is apparent that she is not interested in higher education. And she is also a conservative. I feel sorry for her, as she is in her late 50s and will no doubt retire from her retail job because she doesn't have any additional education over and above her high school diploma. She always seems to have a snippy remark about education (I have a bachelor's) and I bite my tongue, but someday I might just tell her the difference between us is that she will be retiring from her crappy retail job, while I will be able to quit and go to something better, because I have a degree.
  • Pikachu 2012/02/28 23:16:11
    College and higher education helps people...
    Pikachu
    But not everyone HAS to go to college if they don't want to
  • 2012 Obama Pikachu 2012/02/28 23:24:41
    2012 Obama
    +1
    yes it is a choice but for many people that want to go to college they do not have that choice because it is too expensive.

    Conservatives like Santorum want to make it even harder to go to college by defunding colleges and taking away student loans and grants that help many people.
  • Pikachu 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 23:51:05
    Pikachu
    I see your point now... Thanks for being civil about it. That's hard to find on this website
  • 2012 Obama Pikachu 2012/02/28 23:57:17
    2012 Obama
    +1
    No problem- have a good one!
  • justfred 2012/02/28 16:53:33
    College and higher education helps people...
    justfred
    +1
    Conservatives are proud of their ignorance...as they should be. They have practiced it for so long and gotten so good at it.
  • rudeboy 2012/02/28 01:50:21
    College and higher education helps people...
    rudeboy
    +1
    Santorum is just pandering to the extremist traditional GOP base who are afraid of "elitist" education
  • 2012 Obama rudeboy 2012/02/28 01:52:32
    2012 Obama
    I would agree and that concerns me because he is trying to make people believe that higher education is bad for them and is anti-Christian.
  • rudeboy 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 01:54:56
    rudeboy
    Well, education is anti-christian.
  • 2012 Obama rudeboy 2012/02/28 02:05:20
    2012 Obama
    I don't necessarily agree- it is true the more eduction a person has the less rigid their religious beliefs but many educated people still believe in Christ and God though they are less likely to be extremists in those positions.
  • rudeboy 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 02:11:34
    rudeboy
    Many people are religious because of its political advantages.
  • 2012 Obama rudeboy 2012/02/28 02:14:59
    2012 Obama
    Yes that is probably true and for the social outlet it provides. I used to attend church just to sing and listen to the music.
  • rudeboy 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 02:21:53
    rudeboy
    +1
    lol.......I'm an atheist but I still go to church because it calms me down for some reason...
  • VoteOut 2012/02/28 01:43:53
    College and higher education helps people...
    VoteOut
    +1
    You are taking the statement out of context and if you heard santorum speak on this issue prior you would understand. One does not need a college degree to be educated or successful. Experience and common sense and hard work goes for further then just academia alone. For many people colleges are not set up for a one size fits all abilty to further educate them as well as they can self educate and at a far less cost and more effective use of time. What is wrong with someone who chooses to go into the workforce after high school do you look down on people like that as santorum employed Obama does
  • 2012 Obama VoteOut 2012/02/28 01:49:15 (edited)
    2012 Obama
    So you think having common sense is enough to get you a high paying job that will support a family ?

    Have you ever put "common sense" on a job application and got hired ?

    Santorum stated very clearly that he did not support people going to college. Obama supports all colleges including vocational and trades school colleges.

    Have you graduated from college ?
  • VoteOut 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 02:24:45
    VoteOut
    +1
    Yes yes no no and well educated, successful, responsible to/for others self reliant, hired and fired many(sometimes more educated ones over more experienced ones), given up/turned down high paying jobs for lower paying ones. Life is not all about money and materialism my friend.
  • 2012 Obama VoteOut 2012/02/28 02:26:46
    2012 Obama
    May I ask what kind of work you do ?

    If you are well educated as you say why would you think education is not important for young people ?

    Did your higher education not help you to be succesfull ?
  • VoteOut 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 02:59:57
    VoteOut
    I did not say education was not important and learning is and should be a life long process. But one does not need to go to college to be educated. And there are many whom upon graduating and getting a degree think they are done learning. I know many well"academically" educated people and with some I am no so impressed. Now I am not discounting or suggesting not going to college and advocate for it, but its not for everyone not suited for everyone and theree are far more effective ways for some to become educated then
    college degree. Keep in mind Rick Santorum comes from PA and factory town where many worked in the steel mills never attending college college we're successful raised family and are contributing members of society. Obama thinks those that are not highly academia educated are beneath him. And with all his "supposed" education he is not that smart
  • 2012 Obama VoteOut 2012/02/28 03:07:09 (edited)
    2012 Obama
    You opinion of President Obama is incorrect- he has pushed for more funding for academic and vocational colleges and work training programs and has been blocked by the TP congress and people like Santorum

    These Santoum TP people do not want higher education and have openly declared war against is with their bills to cut school loans and grants and teachers salaries. That is well documented.

    Yes there are some people that do not need higher education but the fact is jobs today require more education beyond high school and banks check education records for people wanting a loan to start a business.

    The days of pulling yourself up by your shoe strings to start a multi million dollar company are over and that is just a reality.
  • VoteOut 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 03:36:33 (edited)
    VoteOut
    +1
    Yes its all the monopolising regulations that are impeding business start up and those creative individuals. The destruction of wall street by the banksters with the help of washington and this administration also helped see to that.

    How about direct funding by allowing people to keep more of their own resources so they can choose for themselves how they want to educate.. When if the ecconomy collapses you think those college degrees will be worth the paper they are printed on. One can always create a job/work as necessity is the mother of invention. Except when government works to prevent it

    Its Obama that works to dumb down and sheeple the people. Opinion of him is not incorrect. Lets look to all the wasted resources on his phony green energy policy
  • 2012 Obama VoteOut 2012/02/28 03:42:03
    2012 Obama
    This post is about Santorum and his position against higher education.

    I would be happy to correct your opinion about president obama because it is obvious you have some misinformation but this is not the place or the time.
  • My butt 2012/02/28 01:03:07
    College and higher education helps people...
    My butt
    Education helps out tremendously for certain individuals but not for all . Some people are just not colledge material just not in them its how they was created , you need to have jobs for them as well or keep handing over the food stamps like we are doing .
  • 2012 Obama My butt 2012/02/28 01:07:33
    2012 Obama
    I agree and Obama has pushed for more funding for community colleges and vocational colleges that teach skills people need in todays work place so they are not stuck to being low payed laborers.

    When Obama said he wanted college to be available for everyone it included vocational and trade school colleges.
  • Ms. Mom... 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 01:14:30
    Ms. Mom - profits employ, taxes destroy
    +1
    get THE GD government out of education and leave it to the states.... this nation would flourish ... if left to their own...

    IT IS CALLED 'OVER-OBSESSIVE MOM SYNDROME' which our federal government is terminal.....of.....
  • 2012 Obama Ms. Mom... 2012/02/28 01:20:07
    2012 Obama
    So you just want the government out of schools but does that mean you do not think college is important ?

    How well do you you think our country would do without college educated people ?
  • Ms. Mom... 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 01:38:30
    Ms. Mom - profits employ, taxes destroy
    Duh! I went to college and beyond!... without government INTERVENTION!
  • 2012 Obama Ms. Mom... 2012/02/28 01:44:24 (edited)
    2012 Obama
    So you do think college is important- then why do you think Santorum does not think college is good for you and do you agree with him ?

    How well do you you think our country would do without college educated people ?
  • Ms. Mom... 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 01:50:56
    Ms. Mom - profits employ, taxes destroy
    [...] YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT SANTORUM THINKS COLLEGE IS NOT IMPORTANT!



    DUH!



    All I can say is ... you MUST be a conservative plant because your arguments are lame.



    Cream always rises to the top honey!



    4/3(3.14)r**3 ??
  • 2012 Obama Ms. Mom... 2012/02/28 01:55:43
    2012 Obama
    Now you claim to have went to college and beyond whatever that means but so far all you have done is insult me with childish name calling and used DUH in your sentences which makes me question your education.

    Are you able to answer the questions I have asked ?

    How well do you you think our country would do without college educated people ?
  • Ms. Mom... 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 02:31:33
    Ms. Mom - profits employ, taxes destroy
    YOU LIED ABOUT SANTORUM...LIAR!

    THAT IS WHY MY POST WAS 'EDITED' BY SH SOFTWARE...

    SANTORUM, NOR ROMNEY, NOR NEWT, NOR RON PAUL THINK THAT TECHNICAL COLLEGES ARE NOT VALUABLE...

    DUH! DUH! DUH! DUH! DUH! DUH! DUH!

    NEXT?

    and YES, CREAM ALWAYS DOES RISE TO THE TOP!!!
  • 2012 Obama Ms. Mom... 2012/02/28 02:35:32 (edited)
    2012 Obama
    I think you are way out of control here and sounding belligerent so I will end this conversation.

    Have you ever watched the show MISERY!
  • Ms. Mom... 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 02:42:46
    Ms. Mom - profits employ, taxes destroy
    obviously the blood flow to your brain has reached equilibrium.. allowing no more oxygen...

    I am wiling and completely able to match 'wit' anytime....

    obviously you finally understand the truth so decided to troll elsewhere.
  • 2012 Obama Ms. Mom... 2012/02/28 02:45:49
    2012 Obama
    See I gave you a chance but I will not tolerate your personal attacks anymore so you will have to find somewhere else to play!
  • My butt 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 01:28:14
    My butt
    +1
    Ridicules , the system the people had going hands on training was doing just fine . It is not the skilled laborers that this country is lacking , it is the lack of work for the skilled laborers to do .
  • 2012 Obama My butt 2012/02/28 01:33:57 (edited)
    2012 Obama
    Most businesses today will not hire someone that has to be trained and the work today requires most people to have computer skills, higher math skills, and higher learning skills.

    The days of good paying laborer jobs have come to an end and to compete in today's job market and earn a good living people need more than what a high school education or GED can provide.

    That is just the hard facts of life!
  • Ms. Mom... 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 01:42:12
    Ms. Mom - profits employ, taxes destroy
    You are full of sh*t... go try and hire a machinist in the south!
  • 2012 Obama Ms. Mom... 2012/02/28 01:46:12
    2012 Obama
    Most machinists get their training in vocational COLLEGES.

    Obama wants to increase vocational colleges and santorum wants to stop funding to these colleges.
  • Ms. Mom... 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 02:08:48
    Ms. Mom - profits employ, taxes destroy
    Liar... santorum does not want to stop vocational training in junior colleges... you are full of sh*t...

    Santorum won't even 'force' his religious values onto the 'non-religious'...

    IT IS CALLED REAL CHOICE IN A 'FREE' SOCIETY! SOMETHING I KNOW IS FOREIGN TO YOU...
  • 2012 Obama Ms. Mom... 2012/02/28 02:19:26
    2012 Obama
    Santorum has said he wants to de-fund colleges- and that would effect all colleges that rely on student loans and grants:

    "Let's look at colleges and universities," he said. "They've become indoctrination centers for the left. Should we be subsidizing that?"

    Where did you attend college and what work do you do ?
  • My butt 2012 Obama 2012/02/28 01:49:16
    My butt
    Some people just are not trainable that way , Einstein wasn't either and look what he accomplished . They do not see the world as you see it .

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