Are Conservatives just misled and can't help it?

by Mopeder Posted 2012/05/24 23:55:07

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	None of the above	60 votes	54%

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aherbert 2012/05/25 00:12:09

Misled and can't help it

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I really think they are misled and just can't help it ... they vote against their self interest due to their bias mindset. Behavior is learned ... I am hopeful though ... that their ideology is dying ... a slow, pathetic death but it is dying ... and if America continues to progress as I think it will.... As slowly as America does ... the misled will change for the better.

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~HopelessRomanticM17~ 2012/05/31 04:26:35

None of the above

Not necessarily. It's the extreme people that are a problem, not conservatives as a whole.

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wtw 2012/05/26 18:38:19

None of the above

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We are almost 16 trillion in debt and want to stop the out of control spending--what is wrong with that?
We want to open up drilling and new refineries to bring down the cost of oil which will create jobs, lower fuel and give everyone more to spend--helping the poor more than any one other thing--what is wrong with that?
We want to do away with Obama-care and focus on real medical reform by cutting actual cost and then focus on making sure everyone gets care--what is wrong with that?
We want to cut corporate tax rates, the death tax, whagt is wrong with that?
We want civil unions rather than gay marriage which supports and helps more american than just a small minority--what is wrong with that?
We want to stop Iran from getting a nuclear bomb capable of annihilating Israel--what is wrong with that
We want to modernize and keep missle in place to ensure russia does not start sabre rattling instead of just capitulating to the russians.

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thewatcher to wtw 2012/05/26 20:00:34

We are almost 16 trillion in debt and want to stop the out of control spending--what is wrong with that?

How will romney solve that. His own budget (ryans) which ron=mney fully endorsed adds 5 trillion to the national deficit over the next 10 years

We want to open up drilling and new refineries to bring down the cost of oil which will create jobs, lower fuel and give everyone more to spend--

Obama opened up more drilling leases that george bussh did in 8 years

helping the poor more than any one other thing--what is wrong with that?

By taxing the rich and by cutting programs that actually the poor? Romney already said he would do this.

We want to do away with Obama-care and focus on real medical reform by cutting actual cost and then focus on making sure everyone gets care--what is wrong with that?

Then why has no one from your side done this in the last 80 years - sorry but this is fox crap

We want to cut corporate tax rates, the death tax, whagt is wrong with that?

Yes and cuts taxes for the super rich so it will trickle down - except it does - we tried this under bush and it doesn't work.

We want civil unions rather than gay marriage which supports and helps more american than just a small minority--what is wrong with that?

Why are you so threatened by gays? How does a gay union af...

We are almost 16 trillion in debt and want to stop the out of control spending--what is wrong with that?

How will romney solve that. His own budget (ryans) which ron=mney fully endorsed adds 5 trillion to the national deficit over the next 10 years

We want to open up drilling and new refineries to bring down the cost of oil which will create jobs, lower fuel and give everyone more to spend--

Obama opened up more drilling leases that george bussh did in 8 years

helping the poor more than any one other thing--what is wrong with that?

By taxing the rich and by cutting programs that actually the poor? Romney already said he would do this.

We want to do away with Obama-care and focus on real medical reform by cutting actual cost and then focus on making sure everyone gets care--what is wrong with that?

Then why has no one from your side done this in the last 80 years - sorry but this is fox crap

We want to cut corporate tax rates, the death tax, whagt is wrong with that?

Yes and cuts taxes for the super rich so it will trickle down - except it does - we tried this under bush and it doesn't work.

We want civil unions rather than gay marriage which supports and helps more american than just a small minority--what is wrong with that?

Why are you so threatened by gays? How does a gay union affect your marriage. Is your marriage so weak it can't statnd on its own.

We want to stop Iran from getting a nuclear bomb capable of annihilating Israel--what is wrong with that

by starting another war? Under obama sanctions have been tougher on Iran than at any time in the past 12 years.

We want to modernize and keep missle in place to ensure russia does not start sabre rattling instead of just capitulating to the russians.

The cold war ended quite sometime ago - perhaps you fell asleep
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Swampdog to thewatcher 2012/05/26 21:28:52

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Obigot has denied drilling leases on government lands and the continental shelf for 5+ years. He has all but closed down the coal industry. Think electricity is expensive now? Wait another year when all the coal reserves are gone. Where do you come up with this nonsense? Helping the poor is one thing but welfare and food stamps was never intended to be a career. Tax the rich more? Wow what a great idea, punish people for doing well in life. Obigot care will lead to rationing of health care, again you cannot take from people (health care providers, insurance peoples,et cetera) and GIVE to another without outright stealing! Look at other countries' dalliance with free health care, nothing is free. Free Health care? How about a free attorney? Lawyers make up most of the members of congress and the senate, There will never NEVER be legislature providing for free attorneys,ever! Gay marriage? Go ahead, I don't care. Where do you come up with this foolishness?

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Bureauc... to thewatcher 2012/05/28 04:53:20

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''Obama opened up more drilling leases that george bussh did in 8 years''
Pure Bullsh!t!
Drilling on public lands is down 40% due to 0webama and democrats.
We are at a net increase of drilling in this country due to drilling projects on private land that started during Bush's term.
Gotta Blame Bush for this one.

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Bureauc... to thewatcher 2012/05/28 04:59:31

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''The cold war ended quite sometime ago''
Yes but we face worse threats for far crazier national leader's than that of the USSR. Ever heard of Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong-un? Perhaps you fell asleep

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Reggie☮ 2012/05/26 18:29:12

None of the above

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Are Obama supporters, I think that would be the better question.

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BB 2012/05/26 18:20:19

None of the above

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Are Obama suporters just misled and can't help it?

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Swampdog 2012/05/26 13:37:59

None of the above

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Conservatives can't help but wonder why the stupid liberals are so stupid?

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thewatcher to Swampdog 2012/05/26 20:01:23

This says more about you than the liberals

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Swampdog to thewatcher 2012/05/26 20:57:17

Same for you!

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ETpro 2012/05/26 13:10:05

None of the above

None of the above and all of the above and each one of the above. First off, if you look up the word "Conservative" you find it means someone who strives to preserve existing social order and institutions, not tear it all down. The wish to abandon tried-and-true solutions, to tear down such longstanding institutions as unions, a minimum wage, racial equality, aid to the poor and most of the Federal Government and go back 120 years or more in time is not Conservative in any way, shape or form. It is radical right-wing regression. They are Regressives, not Conservatives.

And trying to paint them all with one broad brush is stooping to their own level. Progressives should not let the Regressives set the agenda. Do so, and you become part of the problem, not the solution. How about an "I've got another idea." option as a possible answer. I wasn't comfortable answering any of the selections offered.

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Dave 007 2012/05/26 12:48:23

None of the above

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Misled??? If obama wins, we will be owned by China in 3 years.

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Claybern 2012/05/26 04:45:04

None of the above

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We know who we are voting for. And it's not BO and Joe Biteme.

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thewatcher to Claybern 2012/05/26 20:02:26

oh very clever. Make that up by yourself or did you have help.

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Claybern to thewatcher 2012/05/31 03:13:11

No help, just nick names I made up my self.

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Mark Twain 2012/05/26 03:50:54

None of the above

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No Mope, when the economic crash hits and you liberals cant get money out of the ATM. Obama will call a bank holiday closure like his Idol Roosevelt. The store shelves are going to be empty. Where are you going to get food? DHS is prepairing Camps for you liberals. Us misled conservatives will be better prepared and will be out there rebuilding the economy

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paul 2012/05/26 01:40:26

None of the above

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It would appear no more misled than the rest of us......

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Libertys Martyr 2012/05/26 01:33:21

Misled and can't help it

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The left is no better.

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fudge35 2012/05/25 22:22:48

Misled and can't help it

Misled and can't help it is probably the closest to the truth. The right wing has a tremendous propaganda machine, and they do a great job of misleading their minions. Why else would most of these people vote against their own economic interest. The machine tells them that if they take care of the 1 percenters, the 1 percenters will trickle down enough money to them that they also will be wealthy.

They can't help it, because they are born without the compassion gene, and are instead born with the selfish gene. You hear them all the time, scream the epitaph, I've got mine so screw everybody else.

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Swampdog to fudge35 2012/05/26 13:48:27

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Conservatives donate a larger percentage of their income to charities than liberals, that's a fact due to their religious beliefs. They are the 1% because they don't depend on the government to give them a hand out. Without conservatives the stupid left would have NO MONEY to give away to their worthless constituency! Again Fudge? Really?

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thewatcher to Swampdog 2012/05/26 20:03:43

where are your supporting facts - oh wait sorry, I forgot you don't deal in facts

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Swampdog to thewatcher 2012/05/26 21:04:03

Sorry bud, facts and liberals just do NOT mix. Go on line your self and see how much the Obamas donated to charities verses the Bushs. Conservative Christian values beats out anything the left throws at them all the time. More Koolaid?

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fudge35 to Swampdog 2012/05/28 16:10:11

REALLY!!! You are kidding aren't you?????? First of all I don't believe right wingers give more money to charities, but I do believe they give more money to non profits like right wing think tanks and any other right wing organization that is non profit. That doesn't make it the same as real charities.

The 2nd thing you say is a goddamn lie. Now I'm going to give you a dose of truth, now I know you and your gang aren't use to the truth so don't go into a seizure, when i give you some of it. The wealthy and big corporations get much more welfare, from the tax payers, than the little kids who get free school lunches. Thanks for making my case. You definitely have the selfish gene, and no compassion gene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Swampdog to fudge35 2012/05/28 17:39:31

Corporations get welfare? Sorry, they don't need it, but I'd love to know where you get your information.

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fudge35 to Swampdog 2012/05/30 23:33:44

WOW! WOW! WOW! God you have to quit watch Fix News and see the real world. Where were you during the big Senate debate, when Obama wanted to stop the 4 billion give away to big oil every year. Big oil that made record profits last year. But the Republicans killed that. They like all that money they get from big oil. Welfare for big oil, is one of the most flagrant, but there are others.

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Swampdog to fudge35 2012/05/31 02:01:44

The profit margins for 'Big Oil' is about 3%, if any one is deserving of a money hand out it IS BIG OIL! Next on Obamas list of destruction is energy, I hope you don't live up north because your energy cost is going to skyrocket because your buddy Obama is killing off the coal industry, we could have nuclear energy but the Prez is against it.

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fudge35 to Swampdog 2012/06/01 20:09:05

Aw so you like welfare for big oil, and I'm sure you don't give a crap that poor kids might not get enough to eat. Well that's typical of you right wing elitist country clubbers. You also love all that pollution you have to breath from coal the dirtiest form of energy. Also you probably love all that mercury in drinking water, and in fish you eat, all from your beloved coal. YUK!!!!!!

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Swampdog to fudge35 2012/06/02 14:48:28

Study science at all? The coal that is burnt in this country emits Zero pollution, We have scrubbers in the emission towers that only emit steam. It may do if you provided your self with a bit more research. Don't like coal? How about nuclear? France has had them for 30+ years.

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fudge35 to Swampdog 2012/06/02 19:14:31

The scrubbers would be fine, but the greed gang, buys off politicians, who in turn fight regulations that control this filth. So yes some plants do have them, but not all. So the rest of us have to get illnesses from this pollution so a company can make more profits. No thanks to the nuclear. First place nuclear is the most costly of all power, the government has to subsidize the building of these plants, and no one will insure a nuclear plant so again it falls on the tax payers. Then you have spent fuel rods that no one wants in their back yard. Also a lot of these older plants have been built on fault lines. One near NY City could make the city inhabitable.

I know the right wing gets stuck in the past, but eventually the rest of us have to pull you into the twenty first century. We need to be weaned off of coal, and look at some of the clean energy that's out there. Also we need to use more natural gas for power. That's much, much cleaner then coal.

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Swampdog to fudge35 2012/06/02 23:24:05

Agreed there are cleaner sources but the technology doesn't yet exist to make them economically viable. I'd like to see the use of the earths magnetic field as an energy source.

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OPen Minded 2012/05/25 19:23:33

Misled

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oops -wrong answer. "Conservatives are leaders" should have been an oiption.

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fudge35 to OPen Mi... 2012/05/25 22:29:28

What do leaders mean? Do they lead us into wars, or economic ruin, or big debt, or take away from the poor and middle class, and give to the wealthy???????????

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OPen Mi... to fudge35 2012/10/23 19:10:23

oh, and we are doing SOOOO much better now... HA!HA!HA!HA!

Hey! I have an idea! Let's take away everyone's incentive to do more or (heavens forbid!) better themselves, and encourage them to sit on their asses while someone else takes care of them!

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fudge35 to OPen Mi... 2012/10/24 23:48:41

I ask you about leaders, instead you give me some gobbledygook crazy right wing mythology. If you can't answer the question just say so!!!!!

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OPen Mi... to fudge35 2012/11/20 16:44:49

Mythology? Gobbledygook? CRAZY???

You did no such thing. You were making a statement, and nothing could change your opinion. But it's OK. We are much better off now. The welfare state will expand and we will not have to worry about anything.

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fudge35 to OPen Mi... 2012/11/20 22:10:45

To you I was making a statement, but I really wanted a right winger to define what they think a leader is. I know I haven't seen any leadership from the right wing. Unless you think using the billionaires money to bully Americans, and overwhelm our democracy is leadership. I don't think the American people think that's leadership.

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OPen Mi... to fudge35 2012/11/20 22:13:46

Both partys SUCK - and libertarian isn't helping much, either.

But I DO think we need to get back to the constitution, and holding EVERYONE responsible for their actions and choices.

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thewatcher to OPen Mi... 2012/05/26 20:04:09

yeah did a great job under bush - NOT

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OPen Mi... to thewatcher 2012/11/20 16:45:41

"yeah did a great job under bush - NOT"

Still blaming Bush?

Shame on you...

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