Are atheists in some ways worse than fundamentalist religious folks?

by dyhorwitz Posted 2012/07/04 04:48:16

Related Topics: Atheists, Atheist, Religious

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Simmering Frog 2012/07/04 04:56:02

yes

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I think both the atheists and fundamentalists have a real short sighted view of the world. They are more related than what appears to separate them.
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CurrentlyOnSpaceship 2012/07/04 05:08:54
dyhorwitz to Current... 2012/07/04 05:18:47

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You assume much, and when I say fundamentalist religious folks, I am not saying only Christians, but Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Sikhs, and Hindus as well

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Current... to dyhorwitz 2012/07/04 05:23:45

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Oh yes I know, but I just tried to keep it sort of simple. I am talking about religion as a whole.

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dyhorwitz to Current... 2012/07/04 05:22:45

Marx said G-d is the State, the State is G-d, however I am sure he didn't put the - there

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Current... to dyhorwitz 2012/07/04 05:24:45

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Yes, good for him.

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dyhorwitz to Current... 2012/07/04 05:27:09

The state is the murderer of individual freedoms when it is a totalitarian state

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Current... to dyhorwitz 2012/07/04 05:29:53

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Yes, I realize that. What are you getting at?

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dyhorwitz to Current... 2012/07/04 05:33:23

that those who proclaim that a state is some kind of deity are no better than those who want to believe in something higher than the state

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Current... to dyhorwitz 2012/07/04 05:43:50

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I am in no way saying they are. I called Stalin evil. I was merely stating that he in no way stands for the rest of us atheists. And that his killings were not in the name of atheism, unlike those done in the name of Christianity, Islam, etc.

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dyhorwitz to Current... 2012/07/04 05:48:45

Marxism is an atheist philosophy, and did I even mention Stalin?

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Current... to dyhorwitz 2012/07/04 05:59:24

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No you didn't but neither did I ever mention Marxism.

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dyhorwitz to Current... 2012/07/04 06:04:25

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touche'

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Defend ... to Current... 2012/07/04 13:15:14

Nobody kills in the name of Christianity
so tell me who did 9/11 and fort hood JIHADS?

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Current... to Defend ... 2012/07/04 16:55:04
Jester M.S. 2012/07/04 05:03:05 (edited)

yes

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Some of them certainly can be, as they share some of the same characteristics that make aggressive christians tiresome. In my experience, many appear to have a difficult time understanding that these actions mirror the very individuals that they have such a philosophical problem with. This level of hypocrisy does not go unnoticed.

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Marianne ☮ 2012/07/04 05:02:27

None of the above

it depends on the specific person in both cases

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Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET 2012/07/04 05:02:12

no

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Unfortunately you have zealots on both sides

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Pixie·MzAwesome♠ƤĦĂĔŢ♠ 2012/07/04 05:00:19

None of the above

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I do not think so but I am also a atheist. I do thoug think there are dicks in every faction.

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Heffeweizen 2012/07/04 04:59:37

yes

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Up until recently, most conservative religious folks were content to live quietly below the radar. Other than the debate on pro-life vs. pro-choice, Christians aren't out there litigating against every little thing that offends them.

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mark to Heffewe... 2012/07/04 12:01:27

A few do , there have been plenty of religious attempts to remove offending books such as Catcher In The Rye from school libraries over the years.

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Heffewe... to mark 2012/07/04 23:21:30

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Yeah, true, but it's not nearly as frequent. Please don't take this as me defending every move the religious side takes, attempting to ban books is silly, just like trying to ban the Ten Commandments and religious symbols. Both sides do things that aren't necessarily rational from time to time.

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Tee Quake 2012/07/04 04:59:03

yes

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In some ways.

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~HopelessRomanticM17~ 2012/07/04 04:58:06

None of the above

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I think it depends on the person, not their religion (or lack of one)

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MyDaydream90 2012/07/04 04:57:34

no

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On an individual basis, I'm sure some of them are. In general, though, no.

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Simmering Frog 2012/07/04 04:56:02

yes

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I think both the atheists and fundamentalists have a real short sighted view of the world. They are more related than what appears to separate them.

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Scatter... to Simmeri... 2012/07/04 05:06:13

Fabulous comment!

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Simmeri... to Scatter... 2012/07/04 05:16:50 (edited)

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Thank you. Ever notice the atheists spend most of the time attacking the fundamentalists but rarely go after the mainstream religious people? Besides the fact that the fundamentalists are the easiest to attack, the fundamentalists remind the atheists too much of themselves.

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Scatter... to Simmeri... 2012/07/04 05:35:14
Simmeri... to Scatter... 2012/07/04 19:11:10

Oh my. Feeling of insecurity. Instant reaction? Tell your opponent how much smarter you are than they are. Seen this a thousand times. Would you like to try a newer angle?

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Scatter... to Simmeri... 2012/07/04 20:49:01

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Wasn't trying to insinuate I'm at all smarter than you, nor did my response reek of insecurity. I'm merely pointing out the potential dangers that can be encountered if you approach a debate/discussion with a closed mind. And (as has been my general experience) most people who label themselves as adhering to a specific ideology lock themselves into a closed-minded reality, one from which they're rarely willing to depart.
I also know that I'm very much included in the group of people who've lots left to learn. That's why I'm still alive.

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Simmeri... to Scatter... 2012/07/04 20:52:17

Well, first we both have to assume my mind is closed and I don't remember that we agreed to that.In fact, that's incredibly rude and it doesn't work as a debating technique, especially when your opponent calls you out on that tactic.

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Scatter... to Simmeri... 2012/07/04 20:57:42

WHAT? I would never suggest your mind is closed! Where is that coming from?
I'm not at all trying to be rude - seriously. Was not my intention nor my desire to offend you. Sincere apologies if that is the case.

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Dogman to Simmeri... 2012/07/04 13:01:54

Please elaborate.

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Simmeri... to Dogman 2012/07/04 19:16:04 (edited)

Don't know what else I can add to that. The atheists and the fundamentalists are two sides of the same coin. They're both idiots.

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Dogman to Simmeri... 2012/07/04 21:13:42

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I disagree. Fundamentalists tend to be zealots. Atheists are simply people who don't believe in a deity. Calling any group of people "idiots" is of little value.

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Red_Horse 2012/07/04 04:55:40 (edited)
Pixie·... to Red_Horse 2012/07/04 05:01:49

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wow now that is funny!

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Red_Horse to Pixie·... 2012/07/04 05:05:50
Pixie·... to Red_Horse 2012/07/04 05:07:56

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I am always getting condemned for my lack of beliefs

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Red_Horse to Pixie·... 2012/07/04 05:13:48 (edited)