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Applebees CEO: Employees On Chopping Block Because Of ObamaCare

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Applebees CEO will have to cut employees and employee hours because of the massive cost of ObamaCare.
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  • RoadRunner 2012/11/13 01:38:55 (edited)
    RoadRunner
    +30
    What amazes me, after four years, you'd think these people would have learned their lesson, but apparently they haven't. Now there is going to be a layoff bomb coming after January 1st. I don't know what it is about Progressives and economics, because on one side you have people that are completely emotional about economics. Good example is the online assault against Applebee's that I have been following, on Twitter, and they will not be hiring; many of their people are full time, they are going to have to lay off and hire part time. You are going to see this now, with many restaurants, including Red Lobster. That's right you communist liberals, like my father 'Lib Hater" told you, this will start in the service industry; you said he was fear mongering. Well, as you can see for yourselves, you butt puppets, it is now happening. Now I will have my say. What should be frightening is, the service industry has largely been replacing manufacturing jobs and has been an opportunity for young people to enter the work force; these aren't the only ones, these are just the high profile ones. Yes, you liberals should see the laundry list of Medical Device manufacturers that are also beginning to lay people off. FORWARD. Hope and Change to a Socialist Society that will only be for t...
    What amazes me, after four years, you'd think these people would have learned their lesson, but apparently they haven't. Now there is going to be a layoff bomb coming after January 1st. I don't know what it is about Progressives and economics, because on one side you have people that are completely emotional about economics. Good example is the online assault against Applebee's that I have been following, on Twitter, and they will not be hiring; many of their people are full time, they are going to have to lay off and hire part time. You are going to see this now, with many restaurants, including Red Lobster. That's right you communist liberals, like my father 'Lib Hater" told you, this will start in the service industry; you said he was fear mongering. Well, as you can see for yourselves, you butt puppets, it is now happening. Now I will have my say. What should be frightening is, the service industry has largely been replacing manufacturing jobs and has been an opportunity for young people to enter the work force; these aren't the only ones, these are just the high profile ones. Yes, you liberals should see the laundry list of Medical Device manufacturers that are also beginning to lay people off. FORWARD. Hope and Change to a Socialist Society that will only be for the Rich and Famous; I love it. Do not worry, liberals; you wanted this, and now you are going to get what you deserve. Now I'm looking at the feedback on Twitter from these stupid butt liberals writing, "you're rich, why can't you hire more people?" not even knowing how a business works. See liberals, a business works on two pieces of paper, now write this down. 1. Details cost. 2. Details revenue. If the government is adding to the cost, if government passes a new tax, creates a new regulation or labor law, guess what? The minute the cost outweighs revenue, you're out of business, or you have to make some changes to your portfolio in a business model to compensate; that can come from using cheaper materials, or not using premium products anymore, base products, and, yes ,,,,,,,,LAYING OFF PEOPLE. Everytime the government acts, there's an equal and opposite reaction in the business community. That's how it works, liberals. FORWARD? LMAO....Next lesson will be on Progressive economics. Here is a preview: We will print a little money here, and we will stimulate this side of the economy, we will move here and then we will move it there; wait it's not working, let's reshuffle it and move it around...ROTFLMAO at stupid progressives.
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  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/11/16 05:08:24
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    We are in trouble and the President is doing nothing but trying to make it worse.
  • Al C. ☆stillt... 2012/11/17 12:17:43 (edited)
    Al C.
    +2
    That's what happens when you elect a guy who's never run a business, or ever held a real job for that matter, who in turn thinks he knows it all but doesn't know S#*T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/11/14 19:21:00
    CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    With full implementation of Obamacare, mass layoffs, cutting of hours and a new, deeper recession are inevitable.
  • John "By God" American 2012/11/14 18:03:14
    John "By God" American
    +2
    It is what it is, like it or not...
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/11/14 00:03:01
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +5
    There you go.

    A mysterious interloper who flies a forked-tailed jump jet and flies into rock walls that turn out to be illusory couldn't have been more effective.
  • Michaelene 2012/11/13 22:14:37
    Michaelene
    +5
    This is going to be another long hard week for Americans, more companies closing, more employees laid off and more workers hours cut back to 29 or less.

    For those who work at large corps, most have been waiting for this and should be filing violations to the WARN Act (make Obama keep that campaign promise).
    Those in smaller companies have already been working with a skeleton crew for years and most likely it will remain a skeleton crew just to tread water.

    CA is so bad there are a dozen bankrupt cities in that one state, there's an exodus of emigrees to other more stable states.
  • CMackle... Michaelene 2012/11/14 19:26:16
    CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +4
    Yep, they leave California and spread their politics to other states, voting for the same insane policies that ruined California. Progressive Liberalism is a plague.
  • Michaelene CMackle... 2012/11/25 16:51:43
    Michaelene
    +2
    I agree provessives are a scourge and now that Obama's won a second term, they are all coming out of the closet. Loud and proud!
    Proud socialists, communists, marxists, black liberation theologists, la raza, uhuru, noi, etc. They're all in a classroom near you.
  • redhorse29 2012/11/13 19:01:49
    redhorse29
    +5
    The cartoon says it all. I live in California. All our high state political offices are held by democrats. The state assembly and senate have a democrat super-majority. The voters just approved to a "temporary permanent" tax increase. The state is bankrupt but has given themselves pay raises. AVOID CALIFORNIA.
  • Walt 2012/11/13 18:47:37
    Walt
    +4
    Simple mathematics is impossible for the liberal mind to comprehend. They prefer to think resources are unlimited and they can spend everyone else's money to infinity. It just doesn't work that way.
  • John Roche 2012/11/13 18:39:02
  • Georgia50 2012/11/13 17:38:59
    Georgia50
    +6
    Same in health care. Hospitals have to decrease the nurse:patient ratio because of Obamacare. Plus, they have to hire an individual to do nothing but follow up on O-care losers to make sure they actually get and take their prescribed medications--just like a nanny. Why? Because if that patient decides NOT to take their medication, and ends up back in the hospital, the hospital is fined under the new guidelines. It's a "readmission" that is presumed to be due to medical malpractice.

    Welcome to hell, people.
  • Georgia50 Georgia50 2012/11/13 17:46:11
    Georgia50
    +6
    Seniors are about to experience a huge drop in doctors willing to suffer under Medicare. They have 2 possible outs--but damn if both are not illegal!

    Senior AARP loser tries to pay the doctor the difference b/t the doctor bill and the Medicare reimbursement: sorry you Florida lame asses! That's called "balanced billing" and it's against the law!

    So you're well off and decide to see a doctor off the grid. You silly AARP reject! That's called "private contracting" and is against the law for any doctor who received Medicare reimbursement in the past two years.

    Welcome to hell, people.
  • The Lib Hater 2012/11/13 16:39:35 (edited)
    The Lib Hater
    +9
    What will happen next: As Layoffs occur, and more people need social spending the strain is going to break the back of the tax base. Message to you Stupid Progressives; really in the end, they're a bunch of sissies when it comes down to actually enforcing their belief system. What are they going to do, maybe pick up a gun and start showing up at peoples' homes and say, alright there is still some wealth left, and we're here to take what you have left? Will they maybe try to outlaw gold, again, like they did in 1933? I'm sure they don't have a clue how that one worked out seeing just how stupid they are. Now to you liberals only, I have a great question for you, and that is what do you think will happen after you sissies break the tax base? There ya go. I expect an answer, seeing you claim to be the smartest people on the planet. I will be checking in on you later, some of us still work for a living, libs.
  • Mog of War The Lib... 2012/11/13 16:42:52
    Mog of War
    Then businesses need to stop laying people off at the mere prospect of loss, and wait until there's an actual break.
  • The Lib... Mog of War 2012/11/13 16:59:19 (edited)
  • Mog of War The Lib... 2012/11/15 01:00:38
    Mog of War
    I'm a fracking MATH MAJOR... I know a hell of a lot more about numbers than you realize.
  • beavith1 Mog of War 2012/11/16 02:28:52
    beavith1
    +2
    lots about numbers, but nothing of economics or life.
  • Mog of War beavith1 2012/11/16 02:48:10 (edited)
    Mog of War
    Your boring reply clearly reflects only ill-founded stereotypes.
  • beavith1 Mog of War 2012/11/16 18:21:02
    beavith1
    +2
    you're the one that is going on about what you like with no regard to how the business operates.

    you're initial statement 'Then businesses need to stop laying people off at the mere prospect of loss, and wait until there's an actual break.' is not something any business owner, especially in a business where the margin is very tight, would ever say.
  • Kiosk Kid Mog of War 2012/11/22 17:20:01 (edited)
    Kiosk Kid
    The only numbers that are important are the cost numbers. The people that perform differential analysis are cost accountants.

    Small business owners are also investors. Investors bet on the future. They don't wait wait until some thing happens before they take action. It will be too late.

    Every business organization in America fought Obama's policies. They lost, so it is time to throw in the towel and play it safe.
  • Mog of War Kiosk Kid 2012/11/28 21:30:07
    Mog of War
    For a cost analysis to work right all factors have to be considered. Most businesses aren't hiring cost accountants to do differential analysis, and the ones working everyone part time, hardly paying them, and not taking good care of their workers, are not usually that good at math either. This crap is usually pulled by micromanagers or by analyses which do not take into account behavioral patterns. People work harder when they are happy and comfortable. Squeezing every worker for as much work as possible for as little pay as possible does not net good productivity. It gets a few good workers here and there, but otherwise just nets huge turnover and keeps worker productivity low. Consumers will buy that crap when it's all that's available, but the moment one shop does different, that shop starts to royally b*&(#-pwn the competition.

    One cannot look at costs alone. One must also look at productivity and well being, because those are the marks of sustainability. People will pay a quarter extra for service with a smile, especially when that smile is not being faked.
  • Kiosk Kid Mog of War 2012/11/28 22:17:15 (edited)
    Kiosk Kid
    +1
    Obviously, we have a huge difference of opinion. Profits = Revenues - Costs. You either increase revenues or you reduce cost if you want to stay in business.

    I certainly was employed full time and was making good money until I retired for health reasons.

    I gave you the formula above. Cost are almost everything. I am a CPA my area of specialty is cost accounting but I certainly did all types of Financial accounting.
  • Mog of War Kiosk Kid 2012/11/28 23:05:09
    Mog of War
    The point is the variables in the equation are not Revenues and Costs. Instead the revenues and the Costs are both the outputs of separate functions, many of which dependent on the same variables. If Productivity(defined as revenue produced by efforts of labor) goes down in the process of reducing Costs, then the variable reducing Costs might also reduce revenues, If Revenue can be raised without raising profits, then do so. A profit neutral increase in revenue is still an increase in the market share(And stray dollars come back eventually since they go into the pockets of consumers). A more itemized way of breaking it down, which is still relatively simple is in order.

    Revenues: Assumed to come from sales, sales come from a variety of factors, such as the market, who has money, and where it's going. Lets break it down to the microcosm of those who show up to the business, those they know, and people passing outside. Passersby will tend to enter a place that is moderately crowded and appears to have satisfied customers. The rates of customer satisfaction effect who buys what and when, it affects repeat business. If enough people crew the store to service everyone during the busy hours, the store generates good revenues. If the workers are happy, they factor into how happy the...




    The point is the variables in the equation are not Revenues and Costs. Instead the revenues and the Costs are both the outputs of separate functions, many of which dependent on the same variables. If Productivity(defined as revenue produced by efforts of labor) goes down in the process of reducing Costs, then the variable reducing Costs might also reduce revenues, If Revenue can be raised without raising profits, then do so. A profit neutral increase in revenue is still an increase in the market share(And stray dollars come back eventually since they go into the pockets of consumers). A more itemized way of breaking it down, which is still relatively simple is in order.

    Revenues: Assumed to come from sales, sales come from a variety of factors, such as the market, who has money, and where it's going. Lets break it down to the microcosm of those who show up to the business, those they know, and people passing outside. Passersby will tend to enter a place that is moderately crowded and appears to have satisfied customers. The rates of customer satisfaction effect who buys what and when, it affects repeat business. If enough people crew the store to service everyone during the busy hours, the store generates good revenues. If the workers are happy, they factor into how happy the atmosphere is, and happy people buy more and pay more. Aside from the rushes, a skeleton crew or a little more than one is fine. The part-time and on-call employees allow for surprise rushes to meet service and sales expectations without losing too much to overtime pay.

    Costs: These can be itemized in labor(this would also include the benefits packages too), and materials, fees and duties, cleanup, damages, and utilities and overhead, and finally turnover and rehiring. Hidden costs are failed revenues, by sales not met when productivity is low or shifts are understaffed. Turnover can incur some of these hidden cost.. In general Turnover will decrease productivity and increase costs, so turnover needs to be small. There are two primary factors in productivity going down with labor costs, 1.) When people have a better sense of well being they are more productive. 2.) The quality of the wage dictates the quality of person who will be willing to take the job. The pay doesn't have to be that good to get a good employee, but if the pay is total crap, that's all it will attract. People will also work better when there is strong leadership, and a full or balanced crew. It's a skeleton crew if all the roles are addressed by at least one person, otherwise it's a short crew.

    Well Being:
    Many of the things which manage costs and generate revenue can be done without incurring many additional costs. With discipline and integrity a courageous team will accomplish seemingly miraculous things. Whatever you can do to increase their well being will increase their loyalty and their willingness to go the extra mile.... The turnover process will inevitably weed out those where that is not the case, but for this to happen strong leadership is needed. Well Being is a factor:(Henry Ford seemed to think so anyway) it's harder to quantify, but given enough data it can be indexed, which is close enough. It's real enough that if it is ignored, your analyses are going to at best deliver optimized quarterly returns(If that's all you're concerned about, then you're part of the problem.) and, at worst, fail to line up with reality at all(which happens in more projections than accountants are comfortable admitting).
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  • Kiosk Kid Mog of War 2012/11/29 00:57:53 (edited)
    Kiosk Kid
    +1
    You're spewing trash! I used Generally Accepted Accounting Principals. I am not going to give you a training lessen.

    It looks like you copied it from somewhere.

    First of all, do you even understand what a differential analysis actually is?

    My formula; Profits = Revenues - Cost.is correct.
  • Mog of War Kiosk Kid 2012/11/29 02:59:53
    Mog of War
    ... All I really did was string one glaringly obvious fact to another, and and another, and gave a breakdown of some of the components of the Two functions you must tabulate to reach profits. And if these "Generally Accepted Accounting Principals" were so sound, and we still got into this mess(there was a strong private sector component to this collapse), then obviously people weren't adhering too well to them to start with.

    All I did was perform expansions upon the inner workings of two functions. If you can't do that, you can't perform a differential analysis. We can't look at these as variables in their own right, when they are clearly outputs of other underlying processes. (And if economists can't grasp this concept, then I fear for this world's well being)

    So you can call the profit function P(t) which is equal to the difference of the revenue function(S(t) for sales over time) and the costs function(E(t) for expenditures over time.. keeps form using C as a function call) (S(t) - E(t))

    So that:
    (1)
    P(t) = S(t) - E(t)

    One could derive this function in respect to E and get:

    (2)
    dP/dE = dS/dE - dE/dE

    but then the /dE's will all cancel out and you'd get:

    (3)
    dP = dS - dE Which are not useful on their own.

    So why did I go on this tangent?

    Simple, I have mathematically proven tha...
    ... All I really did was string one glaringly obvious fact to another, and and another, and gave a breakdown of some of the components of the Two functions you must tabulate to reach profits. And if these "Generally Accepted Accounting Principals" were so sound, and we still got into this mess(there was a strong private sector component to this collapse), then obviously people weren't adhering too well to them to start with.

    All I did was perform expansions upon the inner workings of two functions. If you can't do that, you can't perform a differential analysis. We can't look at these as variables in their own right, when they are clearly outputs of other underlying processes. (And if economists can't grasp this concept, then I fear for this world's well being)

    So you can call the profit function P(t) which is equal to the difference of the revenue function(S(t) for sales over time) and the costs function(E(t) for expenditures over time.. keeps form using C as a function call) (S(t) - E(t))

    So that:
    (1)
    P(t) = S(t) - E(t)

    One could derive this function in respect to E and get:

    (2)
    dP/dE = dS/dE - dE/dE

    but then the /dE's will all cancel out and you'd get:

    (3)
    dP = dS - dE Which are not useful on their own.

    So why did I go on this tangent?

    Simple, I have mathematically proven that you cannot look at it solely in terms of changes in Expenditures unless you have a functional knowledge of what all of the functions are composed of. You will see that S(t) and E(t) are not simple variables, nor are they singular variable functions. They are indeed multivariable functions, and they may share some of the same variables, meaning they are not likely independent functions, and it also means changing any of the component variables could potentially change the output of both functions. If it had been that E and S were independent functions, then you could compress the output of the function E into a single variable, and truthfully derive in respect to E, but the fact of the matter is, the independence of E and S is a myth. In fact given enough time and enough information, I could prove that one of the components the function S is a derivative and or a proportion of a component of E, making S dependent upon E.
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  • Kiosk Kid Mog of War 2012/11/29 03:14:40 (edited)
    Kiosk Kid
    +1
    I will go with proven GAAP. Yes there are variable cost and fixed cost. Variable cost have to do with production and earning revenues. Fixed cost you will pay whether you produce anything or not.

    I am not going to read the crap. It is way below my knowledge and experience.

    Why don't you give a reference on where your copying your textbook crap from.
    .
  • John BNO Mog of War 2012/11/13 18:47:53
    John BNO
    +1
    Mog, You're right. This is just being used as an excuse. I have owned three businesses (cleaning supplies, photography, and ultralight airplanes) over the past 40 years and have always offered my employees health care. Anyone who really cares about the quality and dedication of their workers will always offer benefits. I did have a photographer who wanted to work for me once and he told me that he was on his spouses health care plan so I gave him a "buy-out". Then a year later I found out, when one of his kids was ill that they didn't have health care. Both husband and wife claimed to be on the others policy so that each could get the "buy-out" in their paychecks. That is the type of abuse the the ACA will prevent. It will also get the freeloaders out of the ER departments where their cost are 10x to 100x more expensive than a private physician. Many people don't realize that we, the taxpayer, pay for these freeloaders. The ACA is going to be the law for a long time. There may be some changes made to it because it is far from perfect but so far no Republican governor has elected to ask to have his state "opt-out" of the ACA, so it can't really be that bad. I'm retired and saw the the open enrollment literature from Medicare lists three new enhancements to Medicare that are the...
    Mog, You're right. This is just being used as an excuse. I have owned three businesses (cleaning supplies, photography, and ultralight airplanes) over the past 40 years and have always offered my employees health care. Anyone who really cares about the quality and dedication of their workers will always offer benefits. I did have a photographer who wanted to work for me once and he told me that he was on his spouses health care plan so I gave him a "buy-out". Then a year later I found out, when one of his kids was ill that they didn't have health care. Both husband and wife claimed to be on the others policy so that each could get the "buy-out" in their paychecks. That is the type of abuse the the ACA will prevent. It will also get the freeloaders out of the ER departments where their cost are 10x to 100x more expensive than a private physician. Many people don't realize that we, the taxpayer, pay for these freeloaders. The ACA is going to be the law for a long time. There may be some changes made to it because it is far from perfect but so far no Republican governor has elected to ask to have his state "opt-out" of the ACA, so it can't really be that bad. I'm retired and saw the the open enrollment literature from Medicare lists three new enhancements to Medicare that are the direct results of the ACA. Not to mention the shrinking of the prescription "doughnut hole". A couple of years ago, my wife and I were really worried about that. As we get older, we all seem to take more meds.
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  • The Lib... John BNO 2012/11/14 01:43:46 (edited)
    The Lib Hater
    +8
    I can see you are another MSM talking points butt puppet. I think I've heard the same crap you just posted many times on MSNBC, along with Media does not Matters. I'll give you dumb Progressives some needed advice, and that is that I know you dumbass liberals are having a ball proclaiming the death of the conservative movement, and the Tea Party, and thinking somehow this has something to do with the changing demographic. I don't know how in the hell an Immigrant voted for this anti-American 0bama. If anything the browning of our nation should be making it more free because most of these Brown people came from countries that repressed them, or didn't provide them opportunity. Why did they come here to 0bama's ass backwards economics I'll never know. I had one stupid lib tell me on the phone that it is a changing demographic, LOL, I said who cares, Europe is full of White People, and there doing the same dam thing, and there not changing there demographics moron. Lib Translation- France, England, Ireland, Spain, Germany, Italy, Greece mostly White People. You don't need to brown the country to make it Socialist, and they have been doing it for a generation, and not a lot of Brown People, lib.
  • Todd~AFCL John BNO 2012/11/14 03:31:11 (edited)
    Todd~AFCL
    +8
    I find it very interesting that you have listed those three very different businesses, but your profile claims you were in the Health Care industry, which is in no way related to what you are saying on here. That makes me think you are being much less than honest. In fact, if you really did own those businesses, as you claim,(By the way, TLH and other wealthy people will be cutting you and the other libs off, and he told me that you are a liar.) then you would know that offering health care to your employees is a sizable chunk of your profits, especially if you employ very many people. As for that "buy-out", I have never heard of any company offering anything like that to their employees; either you took the offered plan or you didn't, and that was it.
    Offering health care to employees in the past, is totally different, now that obamacare is going to be dictating what type and amount of coverage is acceptable. If you really believe these companies are using this as just an excuse, then there is no way you could have any business sense, at all.
    You also show a much higher income than many people, but you say you were worried about paying for your prescriptions. This is something else which just rings as false. If your income is really as high as you claim, then there should be n...



    I find it very interesting that you have listed those three very different businesses, but your profile claims you were in the Health Care industry, which is in no way related to what you are saying on here. That makes me think you are being much less than honest. In fact, if you really did own those businesses, as you claim,(By the way, TLH and other wealthy people will be cutting you and the other libs off, and he told me that you are a liar.) then you would know that offering health care to your employees is a sizable chunk of your profits, especially if you employ very many people. As for that "buy-out", I have never heard of any company offering anything like that to their employees; either you took the offered plan or you didn't, and that was it.
    Offering health care to employees in the past, is totally different, now that obamacare is going to be dictating what type and amount of coverage is acceptable. If you really believe these companies are using this as just an excuse, then there is no way you could have any business sense, at all.
    You also show a much higher income than many people, but you say you were worried about paying for your prescriptions. This is something else which just rings as false. If your income is really as high as you claim, then there should be no problem for you to pay for your medications. It sounds like you just want somebody else to pay for what should be your responsibility.
    As for no GOP governor opting out, you might want to try doing some reading, instead of just listening to the far left. http://www.newsmax.com/Politi... http://www.salon.com/2012/07/...
    I think you also missed all those law suits from the states trying to have obamacare declared unconstitutional. http://www.lifesitenews.com/n... http://blog.heritage.org/2011...

    As for how bad the law is, why not read what many governors have had to say about it? http://rgppc.com/gop-governor...
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  • John BNO Todd~AFCL 2012/11/14 19:23:52
    John BNO
    +1
    Not that I feel any obligation to explain my life to you, but I really dislike SH people who constantly insult the integrity of people they don't even know. I was employed by Philips Medical for 38 years. My wife and I were an Amway distributor from 1980 until 2000. I owned Memories Photography, doing weddings and family portraits from 1976 until around 1998 when I decided to become an ultralight PPC dealer an flight instructor for Destiny PPCs, which I did from 1998 until 2008.
    As for my scripts, yes I can easily afford to pay the "doughnut" hole and the ACA has little effect on me directly but there are hundreds of thousands of individuals who aren't as fortunate as I am so I stand by my original post.
  • beavith1 John BNO 2012/11/16 18:21:35
    beavith1
    +1
    Mog would be incorrect. Don't 'egg' his ignorance on.
  • beavith1 Mog of War 2012/11/16 02:28:20
    beavith1
    +2
    no businessman would ever do that. at least, no halfway INTELLIGENT businessman.

    business is NOT an employment agency. people are hired when they are needed and NOBODY is hired if they can't make more money for the company than that employee costs.

    Obamacare throws a huge variable at the business owner, and when you consider restaurant margins are tight to begin with, cutting hours and reducing benefits are the first things to get cut.

    dam is that Obama an IDIOT!.
  • The Lib... The Lib... 2012/11/14 01:41:03
    The Lib Hater
    +8
    Now the answer to, What do you think happens when you break the back of the tax base? When you go down the path your going, and by virtual putting such a lean on businesses that the businesses begin to shed employees, and the former employees begin to lean more on the social services system, and the social service system needs even more in taxes will mean leaning on businesses more. When you break the back of the tax base there's nothing left to redistribute. Lib Translation- Your left with Greece. You know, the people that are rioting in the streets against austerity don't realize that austerity has happened. Soon the world will cut Greece off. Get the picture, libs?
  • beachbum 2012/11/13 15:31:14
    beachbum
    +11
    Who, with more than 3 working brain cells did NOT see this coming?
  • belle 2012/11/13 15:19:50
    belle
    +9
    This should come as no surprise to people that understand how things work. Nothing is free in life. Someone pays. So for all those that lose jobs over Obamacare and its burden on the companies, now will have no money to purchase the so called affordable Obama insurance. Now they get to pay Obama's gentility known as a now as a tax increase, What fools they were to vote for the loser, because now they are the bigger losers, i can't feel sorry for them, they got what they wanted and deserve.

    There will be some innocent people that ends up caught in this Obamanation web. All ways happens.
  • GANGA~Patriotic Revolution ... 2012/11/13 15:13:49
  • The Lib... GANGA~P... 2012/11/14 01:54:23 (edited)
  • GANGA~P... The Lib... 2012/11/14 02:02:05
    GANGA~Patriotic Revolution BL-100+
    +4
    lol! :)
  • GANGA~P... The Lib... 2012/11/14 02:14:00
    GANGA~Patriotic Revolution BL-100+
    +4
    Yes, they are stupid!

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