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Another Conservative Conspiracy Bites The Dust.

luvguins 2012/09/21 23:31:52
Seems the Republicans just can't win with their witch hunts and smears.

By Kevin Drum:


This week the modern conservative id took center stage when Mitt Romney was caught on video telling a bunch of wealthy donors what they wanted to hear: that the poor are a bunch of lazy parasites who refuse to take personal responsibility for themselves. Coincidentally, the same week another bit of the conservative id reached the end of its road. I'm talking about their obsession with Fast and Furious, the gun-walking operation in Arizona that Republicans have been in a lather about for the past two years.


There's not much question that Fast and Furious was a cockup. ATF agents wanted to track guns that were being sold to Mexican drug cartels, but poor planning, idiotic infighting, and a tangle of laws that got in the way of arresting obvious gunrunners produced little but chaos. Thousands of guns ended up in Mexican hands, one of which was eventually used to kill ATF agent Brian Terry. Katherine Eban wrote the best take on the whole sorry affair three months ago in a long piece for Fortune called "The truth about the Fast and Furious scandal."


But this was never enough for Republicans. Rep. Darrell Issa, the Republican attack dog who was the point man for congressional hearings into the affair, insisted that Barack Obama was using Fast and Furious to "somehow take away or limit people's Second Amendment rights." This was pretty much the party line in the fever swamps of the right: It wasn't just a local mess, it was a carefully planned operation from Eric Holder on down to set the stage for a massive new effort to take away people's guns. As Ann Coulter explained things, Fast and Furious put guns in the hands of Mexican drug cartels "to strengthen liberals' argument for gun control…Innocent people dying was the objective of Fast and Furious, not collateral damage."


On Wednesday that all came crashing down when Michael Horowitz, the Department of Justice inspector general, finally released his lengthy report on the operation. Horowitz is no Democratic hack. As Time's Massimo Calabresi reminds us, "Horowitz managed to impress the House GOP in briefings over the past week, and the report itself was met with support from all quarters…Issa himself called Horowitz and his report 'courageous.'" But there's more:



What none on the right are admitting is that Horowitz's report systematically reveals how irresponsible and speculative the accusations from their side have been. The report criticizes Holder's Criminal Division chief Lanny Breuer for failing to inform Holder or his deputy that "gun walking" had taken place in the Bush administration in another case in Arizona called "Wide Receiver." But the report shows that Breuer knew nothing about gun walking in Fast and Furious, and that therefore the scandal existed three levels below Holder (let alone the White House)…As for the source of the false statements to Congress, Horowitz finds they were the result of inaccurate reassurances given to Breuer’s deputy Jason Weinstein, by the U.S. attorney in Arizona, Dennis Burke.


…Horowitz destroys the conspiracy theories on both sides of the aisle over 471-pages, but it’s the right wing screamers who come out looking worst. Horowitz shows definitively that the Arizona ATF agents and prosecutors in the U.S. Attorney’s office there were responsible for the operation, not the White House or the Justice Department in Washington and that the primary source of the inaccurate testimony given to Congress was the U.S. Attorney for Arizona, Dennis Burke.


For over a year, it's been an article of faith on the right that Fast and Furious was a carefully constructed scheme directed by the White House to trash the Second Amendment and build support for more gun control laws. It wasn't. Neither the White House nor Eric Holder had any idea what was going on. It was just a local operation that was badly botched. This makes Fast and Furious offically yet another lunatic conservative conspiracy theory that has bitten the dust in the cold light of reality.

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  • flaca BN-0 2012/09/21 23:36:06
    flaca BN-0
    +13
    Republicans have botched many things but to them that's OK. This going after Holder is just pure politics. The people aren't buying it. The repubs ignored evidence that the CIA were tearing their hair out over before 9/11. They kept on and on to get the WH to listen but they wouldn't They(the Bush admin) had the biggest eff up of all time.

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  • findthelight2000 2012/09/25 23:50:06
    findthelight2000
    +1
    If the Republican politicians put in as much work trying to do good work for the USA and it's citizens as they do figuring out the next big conspiracy theory against Democrats, maybe they could have something honest and positive to run on.
  • Gracie - Proud Conservative 2012/09/24 00:43:37
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +2
    It's great that Eric Holden pardoned Eric Holden! That's super!
  • YouSirName 2012/09/23 01:04:59
    YouSirName
    +1
    The truth is not even on the radar screen for republicans intent on lying their way into power. Unfortunately for them, most people aren't as crazy as the conservatals on SH who fall for these conspiracies time after time.
  • \V/ 2012/09/22 23:25:49
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  • Magus BN-0 \V/ 2012/09/24 01:05:17
    Magus BN-0
    +1
    Mexico's elections have been notoriously corrupt for a very long time.
  • mich52 2012/09/22 16:03:04
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/09/22 15:51:49
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +3
    Hmm, sometimes you guys actually make me worry about you. What conspiracy? This gun walking happened, and we have dead border personnel. This report was a real indictment of the Justice department.

    1. 14-16 (too lazy to look up again) officials named as incompetent - 2 gone in the first hour of the release of the report (1 resigned and 1 retired) and one of them an Assistant to Holder. Wonder how many more will fall on their sword willingly.

    2. The report clearly states that is was, in my words, a gigantic cluster F**K.

    3. The report states that the tapes of many phone calls should be released because they are very important to review

    4. The report says that they could not PROVE that Holder read the many memos addressed to him, or the e-mails sent to him or that his staff discussed this with him. They did not say he was exonerated ---- it is a long walk between exoneration and not being able to prove what he did.

    And last, one thing is certain - If Holder is not a liar; he is proven now to be just plain incompetent
  • ally 2012/09/22 14:28:35
    ally
    +4
    This new conspiracy cockup get's filed next to birtherism, afterbirtherism, communists in congress, muslim nation members married to congrssmen.....the list goes on and on.
  • CAROLYN NTARWNJBS 2012/09/22 13:45:59
    CAROLYN NTARWNJBS
    +4
    Another great article.
  • Guru_T_Firefly 2012/09/22 13:37:30
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +4
    At least, the GOP's self-destruct mechanism is working as intended.

    nuke gif
  • KCurtis 2012/09/22 13:25:29
    KCurtis
    +4
    It's a far cry from this...
    In the New York Times story, a column by Thomas Edsall on Monday outlines where the Obama regime, the Obama campaign says to white working class families: We're not interested in your votes; we don't care. We are never going to get the white middle class vote anyway.

    Are you going to call the OBama Campaign racist now? I'm waiting.
  • Leprachaun999 2012/09/22 12:39:04
    Leprachaun999
    +6
    The Repugs only wanted to show Obama who is "Masta" from the beginning they never intended to co-operate. Serves them right if Romney loses.
  • Lady Wh... Leprach... 2012/09/22 14:51:29
    Lady Whitewolf
    +4
    B I N GO ! does this say it
  • Don 2012/09/22 11:09:46
    Don
    +5
    Dream on liberal.
    Issa will get a court order on Obama's illegal "Executive Privilege" order, and the rest of this sham will be exposed.
    Just because Empty suit tries to cover this up doesn't mean it's over.
    Brian Terry's blood is on Holder and Obama's hand.
  • luvguins Don 2012/09/22 12:28:03
    luvguins
    +6
    You are FOS. Issa can't do anything now. Terry's blood is on the inept ATF and Bush who started gun running, the last Bush run not even known to the Mexican government.
  • wtf luvguins 2012/09/25 12:20:19
    wtf
    That is right ... always fall back to the blame Bush excuse.

    More liberal fairy tales from luvguins.
  • luvguins wtf 2012/09/25 13:43:26
    luvguins
    More RWNJ denial from you. 63% of Americans still blame Bush for the recession so I am in good company, and he couldn't even be allowed at the RNC convention to remind the TV audience of his failures. The majority of the people don't have amnesia which you cons hoped for.
  • wtf luvguins 2012/09/25 14:34:13
    wtf
    Keep looking through your Obama Love Rose colored glasses to see the lies from the left as truths you hold so deep.
  • luvguins wtf 2012/09/25 17:10:07
    luvguins
    Keep pushing an inept and incompetent candidate. Had you come up with someone better you might have had a crack at the White House.
  • wtf luvguins 2012/09/26 12:31:25
    wtf
    I will be the first to admit Romney was not my first choice and there are things about him I am not crazy about. But the real inept and incompetent candidate is Obama who will go down in history as the most ineffective president in the history of the USA.
  • luvguins wtf 2012/09/26 14:27:45
    luvguins
    Yada, yada. History will have Bush as the most ineffective president. Obama's second term will elevate him to one of the best.
  • wtf luvguins 2012/09/26 18:52:12
    wtf
    You are truly out of your mind.
  • luvguins wtf 2012/09/29 00:20:36
    luvguins
    And you are truly delusional as usual. Lets see what you plan to alibi for the GOP for when they lose 11/6. Smiley laugh gifs
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/09/22 09:24:23
    Lady Whitewolf
    +4
    All I can say is.... people actually WANT the republicans / GOP back in control??
  • Guru_T_... Lady Wh... 2012/09/22 13:40:24
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +5
    No, not the smart ones.
  • Commander Pyle 2012/09/22 08:16:04 (edited)
    Commander Pyle
    Fact is that those guns were meant to help the Sinaloa Cartel. Is anyone paying attention to Vincentillo Zambada? El Mamito has already spoken of how easy the Gulf Cartel was able to smuggle weapons, suggesting that they are supported by those in government. We support drug lords. That is fact.
  • redhorse29 2012/09/22 05:59:58
    redhorse29
    +3
    No. What can you expect? We have a government agency investigating itself. The justice department has been caught deceiving and hiding facts. The credibility is gone and the study cannot be trusted.
  • luvguins redhorse29 2012/09/22 06:12:11
    luvguins
    +5
    Issa accepted it, but of course RWNJs don't accept anything but their own narrative.
  • joseph digristina 2012/09/22 05:34:23
  • Dan der... joseph ... 2012/09/22 07:06:22
    Dan der Mensch
    +1
    I could squeeze another hour or two in a day - if I got to say "I hate Obama".
  • joseph ... Dan der... 2012/09/22 07:38:36
  • Dan der... joseph ... 2012/09/23 02:11:25
    Dan der Mensch
    +1
    I know you libtards don't like competition in the arena of Hate, but Ecclesiastes 3:8 tells us that there is in fact a time for hate. There's plenty of constructive hate in the Bible - the general theme is that we must hate evil...

    Proverbs 8:13 - The fear of the Lord is to hate evil; pride and arrogance and the evil way and the perverse mouth I hate.

    Psalms 119:104 - I gain understanding from your precepts; therefore I hate every wrong path.

    Psalms 119:127,128 - Because I love your commands more than gold, more than pure gold, and because I consider all your precepts right, I hate every wrong path.

    Psalms 119:163 - I hate and detest falsehood, but I love Your law.
  • luvguins Dan der... 2012/09/23 02:20:15
    luvguins
    +2
    There is no constructive hate on this site, bozo.
  • Dan der... luvguins 2012/09/23 02:33:17
    Dan der Mensch
    And you're determined to prove it, eh?
  • luvguins Dan der... 2012/09/23 03:08:22
    luvguins
    +2
    I leave that up to you flaming cons.
  • Dan der... luvguins 2012/09/23 03:13:03
    Dan der Mensch
    Oh I don't know, you've already called me a bozo and a flaming con. I'd say you're practicing nonconstructive hate quite well.
  • luvguins Dan der... 2012/09/23 03:26:01
    luvguins
    +2
    Truth must hurt
  • Dan der... luvguins 2012/09/23 03:38:10
    Dan der Mensch
    No it kind of tickles actually. Must be your sandpaper tongue.
  • luvguins Dan der... 2012/09/23 13:14:47

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