Americas right-wing drinking the Kool-Aid?
Edible_toad
2011/03/28 06:37:19
Reading the Guardian this morning I came across an article talking about the American Right-wing.
Despite having no interest in American politics I read it anyway, and wondered what people thought of it.
Seeing as Sodahead is primarily American and political I figured why not ask here?
Random snippets that I found interesting.
Polls suggest there are between one in three and one in four Americans who would believe anything. More than a third thought President George Bush did a good job during Hurricane Katrina; half of those thought he was excellent.
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A poll earlier this month revealed that a quarter of Republicans believe a community rights organisation called Acorn will try to steal the election for Barack Obama next year, while 31% aren't sure whether it will or not. It won't. Because Acorn does not exist. It was defunded and disbanded after a successful sting operation by conservatives a couple of years ago.
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Meanwhile, a poll last month showed that a majority of Republicans likely to vote in the primaries still believe Obama was not born in the United States. He was. But no number of verified birth certificates will convince them.
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What is relatively new, however, is the level of logical dysfunction and hyperbole within the American right, trapped in a fetid media ecosystem where all the Kool-Aid has been spiked. In short, what you need to say and do to be credible within the Republican party essentially deprives you of credibility outside it. The Republicans seem to realise this, but like an obese glutton at an all-you-can-eat buffet, they just can't seem to help themselves.
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Strategically the division between social and fiscal conservatism has largely been settled. With just a few exceptions only social conservatives (anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, pro-gun) can get elected within the Republican party, so it has ceased to be much of an issue in primaries.
Anyway.
Just wondering what you people think of it?
Agree, disagree, other option here?
Despite having no interest in American politics I read it anyway, and wondered what people thought of it.
Seeing as Sodahead is primarily American and political I figured why not ask here?
Random snippets that I found interesting.
Polls suggest there are between one in three and one in four Americans who would believe anything. More than a third thought President George Bush did a good job during Hurricane Katrina; half of those thought he was excellent.
...
A poll earlier this month revealed that a quarter of Republicans believe a community rights organisation called Acorn will try to steal the election for Barack Obama next year, while 31% aren't sure whether it will or not. It won't. Because Acorn does not exist. It was defunded and disbanded after a successful sting operation by conservatives a couple of years ago.
...
Meanwhile, a poll last month showed that a majority of Republicans likely to vote in the primaries still believe Obama was not born in the United States. He was. But no number of verified birth certificates will convince them.
...
What is relatively new, however, is the level of logical dysfunction and hyperbole within the American right, trapped in a fetid media ecosystem where all the Kool-Aid has been spiked. In short, what you need to say and do to be credible within the Republican party essentially deprives you of credibility outside it. The Republicans seem to realise this, but like an obese glutton at an all-you-can-eat buffet, they just can't seem to help themselves.
...
Strategically the division between social and fiscal conservatism has largely been settled. With just a few exceptions only social conservatives (anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, pro-gun) can get elected within the Republican party, so it has ceased to be much of an issue in primaries.
Anyway.
Just wondering what you people think of it?
Agree, disagree, other option here?
Read More: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/2...
It's not so much of a political issue but an interest in human psychology. Sane and rational people realize that the American Republican party and conservative ideology functions on a completely irrational premise. It does this to exploit emotional venerabilities to negate indications of logical fallacy.
However, this is not isolated solely to the US either. In the UK you have the National Party, in France you have the National Front. Groups like these invent a series of invisible enemies to make people complacent in their actions that directly undermines their voters true interests.
In re your query about electability. There does seem to be an issue. Sadly, the only way to win the office of Presidency involves picking up the undecided voters. But the only way to the nomination is to be a social conservative -- and such a strong social conservative that the undecided are turned off [don't blame the conservatives either, they have been burned too many times in the last 3 decades by candidates that paid lip service to get the job and then governed in the opposite manner]
Me, I am so conservative that I occasionally appear moderate to liberal. And for the kind of voter I am, I choose on the basis of fiscal conservatism first. Think John Boehner and Steve Chabot. And while I want the elected official to be personally conservative, I also want him/her to respect the US Constitution enough to function as a moderate to liberal in that area [anti-abortion, anti-gay, etc]. I don't have to like it, but I want my rights to how I want my orifice used or not used as the case may be respected, so I must grant the same to others.
Finally, any candidate who does not fully support the second amendment will not get my vote. Period.
Though now I am curious about what happened in the French revolution involving toads.
Also, thanks for your answer, one of the more thought out, intelligent ones I've read. :)
Thanks for that :D
happy toad eating
Go right ahead and paint anyone not liberal (enough) as Koolaid consumers, gun totn', God fearn', retards that should be locked up. obama is still out in 2012 along with the rest of the money spending, bribe accepting, obamacare voting liberals that didn't get removed in 2010.
Majority rules only this time it will be in the other direction. America woke up to facts we pointed out in 2008 and obama proves us right pretty much daily. Sad we had to waste four years for this nonsense.
BTW, don't you have a Kangaroo to bar-b-que or something?
I was merely curious what others thought.
Sorry, we just put shrimp on the barbie. If we can be bothered to stop being beach bums and drinking beer. Oh, and it would be rude to barbeque the only way of transport here.
Was merely curious what others thought as given most on this website live there they would have a far better understanding of the politics that happen there.
If I agreed with it THEN I would have swallowed it, however I neither agree nor disagree.
Not true at all. I simply have no interest in it. And as a result do not study it.
Hence why I declined to put an opinion on this article and just asked for others.
I neither agree, nor disagree with it. I didn't put an opinion on it as I know that I don't know much about American politics. I wondered what others thought that DID.
I've had responses that disagree, and some that agree.
Whaddya know.
ACORN was disbanded but it has also come back under another guise.
Obama has not shown a viable BC. He has shown a copy of an HI BC that HI was selling at the time of his birth to foreigners. Plus his Kenyan grand mother remembered him being born in Kenya.
As for everything else you can attribute it to Left wing hyperbole and misinformation. Standard liberal/Alinski crap. Look up Alinski. ;)
I never offered an opinion of it, merely asked for yours.
Also, whether or not I AM 15, never claim a topic beyond understanding. Unless you can measure someone's intelligence and knowledge over the internet without previously talking to them.
I found this article, read it, and wanted to know what others thought. Did they agree? Disagree? Do those that are right-wing disagree more-so than those on the left?
I, personally, have no opinion one-way or another, contrary to what I get called on here, as I have no interest in American politics. I am far more interested in others opinions on such matters.
:)