All governments that come with trust me in one hand have chains in the other. Is this what our government has become? Your views regardless of party.

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All governments that come with trust me in one hand have chains in the other. Is this what our government has become? Your views regardless of party.

by Silverback Posted August 17, 2009 19:04:28

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+5 raves BIG $ GOON August 17, 2009 19:17:11

There is no more Government we are the Government and now we are close to being eliminated!!!!
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DeCaf August 20, 2009 22:57:30

The first steps to big brother were taken back in the early part of 1900s by Progressives; they pushed their "we know better for the public attitude"; big brother really grew under FDR, then again under Eisenhower, Kennedy, and especially Johnson. It picked up regrowth under Carter and surged under the Clintons. Bush, Jr. helped it along with the Patriot Act. But Obama has shifted the debate from we know better to we want to control.
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Silverback to DeCaf August 21, 2009 00:57:41

I agree with your statement.
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Dionysus August 17, 2009 21:04:53

I think the Patriot act was a first step to Big Brother
Silverback to Dionysus August 17, 2009 21:06:01

Could be. We need to be vigilant don't we.
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BronxBob August 17, 2009 20:44:37

I think there has always been a tension in our socio-political culture around those who understand liberty as freedom to become and others who understand it as freedom from. The freedom-to-become people are now in power and make the freedom-from people suspicious and uncomfortable. But both understandings are different sides of liberty. And our conservatives, libertarians, and liberals are all cut out of the same cloth. All of which is to say, freedom remains the underlying value of our rulers and government. For those willing to find common ground, it's there. The problem is few people seem willing to try to find it in our culture of sound bites.
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Silverback to BronxBob August 17, 2009 20:52:38

Good thoughts even if I do not 100% agree. Where you are 100% right is there is very little in the way of understand or attempt to unite.

As an example I am against the current administrations plan, but I am for coverage for all citizens. I am for fixing what is broke and feel there has been no attempt to fix just the damaged part of a system that overall is pretty damn good, but can definitely use improvement.

When our politicians start calling names you are right it makes me more than a little nervous. Thats worse than low class, it is government intimidation and very wrong.

Have a great day.
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FLBabe August 17, 2009 19:51:34

I feel that it has. When representatives hide from their constituency because they disagree, then it becomes being ruled by the political class, rather then representatives abiding by what their constituency is asking them to do.
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Silverback to FLBabe August 17, 2009 19:59:02

Isn't that the truth. The snob elitists that think they have a duty to control us need a big wake up call.
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FLBabe to Silverback August 17, 2009 20:01:58

I think they are getting one. Since we can't count on the Loyal Opposition to demonstrate what it is like to have a backbone, We The People are showing them how it is done! These fools won't know what hit them during the mid terms
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Silverback to FLBabe August 17, 2009 20:04:27

Thats a fact. I have brothers that are teacher and got tricked/ union pushed to elect this bunch of clowns. He is smart enough to see the problems they are causing. I know many other that are the same.
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FLBabe to Silverback August 17, 2009 20:06:43

yeah, people are coming out of the Hopeandchange fog they have been in and reality is slapping them sober. I think the Hope-ium is finally running out.
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Headhunter 13 August 17, 2009 19:45:19

As Gerald Ford said

"A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have."
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Silverback to Headhun... August 17, 2009 19:46:33

All very true.
patt August 17, 2009 19:27:29

Who made up that bs statement? ALL governments?? Get a life.
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Silverback to patt August 17, 2009 19:49:04

Get a clue.
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Poppy - don't come here wit... August 17, 2009 19:17:43

It's absolutely a fact of getting oneself elected. The main difference now is that the promises vs. the reality of the lies has never been more of a renege than it is with the current phonies!
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Silverback to Poppy -... August 17, 2009 19:48:27

And never in this countires history has the power grab been so obvious and huge in scale.
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BIG $ GOON August 17, 2009 19:17:11

There is no more Government we are the Government and now we are close to being eliminated!!!!
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Silverback to BIG $ GOON August 17, 2009 19:49:38

Agreed
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BIG $ GOON to Silverback August 17, 2009 19:50:54

hear hear!!
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Dan D August 17, 2009 19:11:06

Unfortunately yes. And they do all they can move you from self-reliance to government reliance. Resist it - you're better off looking after your own affairs and helping your neighbors directly than letting the government do it all for you.
Silverback to Dan D August 17, 2009 19:50:11

TRUE
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☼ Homeward Bound ☼ August 17, 2009 19:07:27
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Silverback to ☼ Homew... August 17, 2009 19:52:11 (edited)

Do we need to also change the saying under the Statue of Liberty, "Send your lazy, do nothing masses begging for a handout."
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The Sane One August 17, 2009 19:06:48

Anything that a government can give you they must have taken from someone else, usually under a threat of force, either explicit or implied.
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Silverback to The San... August 17, 2009 19:53:46

True