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AG Holder In Contempt of Congress

snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques 2012/06/22 17:22:51









Attorney
General Eric Holder Officially In Contempt of Congress, Activist pressure forces
issue but Republicans STILL looking to let him slide






History is being made. And all indications are that an
ugly situation is only going to get uglier.


Yesterday, the House Oversight Committee voted along strict party lines to
officially hold United States Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of
Congress. What is most telling about the 23-17 vote is that not a single Member
failed to vote, a rather unusual circumstance that underscores the historic
nature of the proceedings.


Believe it, people… none of this
would have been possible without your tireless efforts in insisting that
Congress take action!


This is not a witch-hunt. There must be something earth-shattering in the
documents that Holder has withheld for months in the face of a Congressional
subpoena because just moments before the vote President Obama tried
unsuccessfully to assert Executive Privilege over those same documents!


This is an election year, and the LAST thing Obama
wants to do is defend an underling who obviously has gone off the reservation!
So why did he take the extraordinary step of claiming Executive Privilege to try
and help out an employee who just might cost him the election?


Could it be the only explanation that makes sense is the
documents must show that knowledge of the Fast and Furious fiasco reached the
Oval Office, even though this administration has claimed for years that no one
who is anyone knew anything about it.


So where do we stand today, what is Congress likely to do, and how can we
affect the outcome?


Unfortunately, and unbelievably, leading Republicans appear ready to find a
way to let Holder and the Obama administration off the hook if they can!


Click
here to insist that Congress tow the line!


In a joint statement released just moments after the historic vote, Speaker
of the House John Boehner (R-OH) and Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA)
said:


“If… Holder produces these documents prior to the scheduled vote, we
will give the Oversight Committee an opportunity to review in hopes of resolving
this issue.”


Only continued
pressure will keep Republicans from caving even when the end is in sight!


The “scheduled vote” the Republican leaders were talking about is the
unprecedented next step of having the entire House of Representatives vote to
hold Holder in contempt, which will result in actual criminal prosecution.


Since Republicans hold a majority, and 114 congressmen have cosponsored
(thanks to your earlier actions) a separate resolution finding that Congress has
“lost confidence” in the Attorney General is needed and that vote certainly can
we won.


Should the entire House find Holder
in contempt, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia will be forced to
convene a grand jury to consider criminal charges.
Holder will go to jail
if found guilty.



The ONLY thing standing between truth and justice being served is the
recalcitrance of Republican Leadership. They MUST be forced to stand
firm!


Please
act now by clicking here, we must keep the pressure on!

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  • "Shooter" ™ 2012/06/22 23:30:51 (edited)
    "Shooter" ™
    +18
    This is Obama's buddy and they are sure hiding something. I hope we can get rid of these two nightmares, inept, crooked weasels.



    holder and obama crooks

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  • Chi~Cat "Shoote... 2012/07/05 18:44:11
  • "Shoote... Chi~Cat 2012/07/05 18:54:13 (edited)
    "Shooter" ™
    +1
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  • Chi~Cat "Shoote... 2012/07/05 18:57:41
    Chi~Cat
    +1
    ewwwww, they wouldn't last a tick out here! lolol!

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    "Shooter" ™
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    you got that right chi-cat!! lols

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  • snell/G... Chi~Cat 2012/07/02 18:18:41
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +2
    ...lol, thx for sparing our eyesight this day....;))))
  • ReconMa... "Shoote... 2012/07/01 17:12:22
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  • Ken meme14 2012/06/23 02:54:43
    Ken
    +7
    Unlike Obama where the deaths of two U.S. agents are involved, Bush did it over Congress' attempt to get documents regarding the firing of eight U.S. Attorneys. U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President - when Bill Clinton took office he fired every single one of them (90 some-odd!) and appointed his own cronies. Congress had no business looking into a decision that was one made by the executive branch.

    In this case, the claim of executive privilege is woefully late - legally it should have been made months ago. And no, the information they seek isn't classified and that wouldn't be an excuse if it were classified. Congressmen and women have security clearances and could have covered the material in a closed-door hearing. The executive privilege being asserted at the last minute, over documents that are sought that may evidence a cover-up, imply that the President himself may have been in on the cover-up, as both he and Holder have denied any prior knowledge of the Fast and Furious operation. Otherwise he is putting his a$$ on the line to protect his buddy Eric. Additionally, Eric Holder and the Justice Department have already acknowledged lying to Congress - they had to retract both a letter sent to the committee and change Holder's testimony. Martha Stewar...

    &


    Unlike Obama where the deaths of two U.S. agents are involved, Bush did it over Congress' attempt to get documents regarding the firing of eight U.S. Attorneys. U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President - when Bill Clinton took office he fired every single one of them (90 some-odd!) and appointed his own cronies. Congress had no business looking into a decision that was one made by the executive branch.

    In this case, the claim of executive privilege is woefully late - legally it should have been made months ago. And no, the information they seek isn't classified and that wouldn't be an excuse if it were classified. Congressmen and women have security clearances and could have covered the material in a closed-door hearing. The executive privilege being asserted at the last minute, over documents that are sought that may evidence a cover-up, imply that the President himself may have been in on the cover-up, as both he and Holder have denied any prior knowledge of the Fast and Furious operation. Otherwise he is putting his a$$ on the line to protect his buddy Eric. Additionally, Eric Holder and the Justice Department have already acknowledged lying to Congress - they had to retract both a letter sent to the committee and change Holder's testimony. Martha Stewart actually served time in prison for lying, not under oath, to a government investigator. Now we have the top law enforcement official of the United States lying to Congress not just once, but twice that we know of.

    In the Fast & Furious debacle, unlike Bush's firing of eight attorneys, there are two dead agents of the United States government, and guns which the Holder Justice Department allowed to be sold to violent Mexican Drug Lords have been directly tied to those deaths. There are also the deaths of hundreds of Mexicans citizens and the Mexican government, which was not notified of the operation, is rightly outraged. To this date no liability or blame for a tragically flawed operation has been pladed! Add to that the fact that it appears that the point of the exercise, where no method of tracking the guns was instituted, was simply to have American-sourced guns show up at drug-lord crime scenes in Mexico to give the anti-gun lobby, of which Obama and Holder are members in good standing, ammunition to call for more gun control.

    You have posted nothing but radical left-wing blather, name-calling and speculation without a single fact. Typical for a mindless lemming following the messiah over the cliff!
    obama lemmings
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  • meme14 Ken 2012/06/23 06:36:04 (edited)
    meme14
    "Congressmen and women have security clearances and could have covered the material in a closed-door hearing" Really? He should trust them?

    In virtually every story I read on Fast and Furious..I see the same words, 'confidential' and 'anonymity'. These same people wonder why someone won't trust them with confidential material?

    "according to the officials, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to discuss the issue by name"
    http://www.gazettenet.com/201...

    Your friend implied that I cut myself and look like Joy Behar - neither of which is true..but still she said it..implying that she actually knew me..and she doesn't. An implication is not a substantiated fact. All I said is let it run it's course. Let the facts come out. All we have now are implication and theories.
  • Ken meme14 2012/06/23 15:54:24 (edited)
    Ken
    +4
    In any trial or investigation evidence as well as any logical implications of that evidence are considered. I don't know anything about the personal battle with my "friend" (I don't even know who you are referring to), but insofar as comparing Bush's claim of executive privilege over a congressional inquiry into the firing of eight U.S. Attorneys to an inquiry into an illegal action of selling firearms destined to go into a foreign country with no means of tracking them, there is no comparison.

    In the case of one of those attorneys Bush fired, in San Diego, even Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein had said she was incompetent. Hiring and firing U.S. Attorneys is an area in which the president has total discretion inasmuch as they all serve at his pleasure, and as I stated above, Clinton fired every single U.S. Attorney in the nation when he came into office and no one batted an eye.

    Yes, congressmen and women do have clearances and stating that something is "confidential" doesn't mean it is "classified" in the legal sense. Obviously Eric Holder would consider any documents that might damage him in his office to be "confidential."

    "Let the facts come out. All we have now are implication and theories."
    I totally agree, let the facts come out - and that's what Obama and Holder are...




    In any trial or investigation evidence as well as any logical implications of that evidence are considered. I don't know anything about the personal battle with my "friend" (I don't even know who you are referring to), but insofar as comparing Bush's claim of executive privilege over a congressional inquiry into the firing of eight U.S. Attorneys to an inquiry into an illegal action of selling firearms destined to go into a foreign country with no means of tracking them, there is no comparison.

    In the case of one of those attorneys Bush fired, in San Diego, even Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein had said she was incompetent. Hiring and firing U.S. Attorneys is an area in which the president has total discretion inasmuch as they all serve at his pleasure, and as I stated above, Clinton fired every single U.S. Attorney in the nation when he came into office and no one batted an eye.

    Yes, congressmen and women do have clearances and stating that something is "confidential" doesn't mean it is "classified" in the legal sense. Obviously Eric Holder would consider any documents that might damage him in his office to be "confidential."

    "Let the facts come out. All we have now are implication and theories."
    I totally agree, let the facts come out - and that's what Obama and Holder are attempting to prevent happening. Also, we have much more than "implication(s) and theories"-- we have two dead U.S. agents, over two hundred dead Mexican citizens and an angry Mexican government.

    "Mexico still waiting for answers on Fast and Furious gun program --
    Top Mexican officials say the U.S. kept them in the dark. One official was stunned to learn that the cartel hit men who killed her brother had assault rifles from Fast and Furious in their arsenal."

    Please explain to me if you can what possible good could have come from selling 1,400 t0 1,600 assault weapons (including automatic AK47s) that were destined for drug cartels in Mexico, with no means of tracing them, and without involving the government of Mexico in the scheme, or even letting them know that it was happening? Can you think of a positive outcome to that scenario? I certainly cannot.
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  • meme14 Ken 2012/06/23 16:32:21
    meme14
    I was pointing out that there are too many people involved who are already willing to speak to the press under conditions of anonymity. So I really don't think that allowing sensitive documents to be viewed behind closed doors was a realistic option. Who are these people who are disregarding their clearances and speaking to the press even though they specifically 'are not authorized to speak about Fast and Furious'? They are speaking about it to the press. How can they be trusted? For all we know the documents pertain to the Mexican government. We just don't know. It does seem like an accident waiting to happen to let straw runners walk away with an arsenal - but we don't know that Obama knew anything about that. I think that the mentality of the republicans and their unreasoned witchhunt of an approach only hurts their credibility. He exercised his executive privilege - we are not executives and we are, therefore, not privy. Just my opinion
  • Ken meme14 2012/06/23 16:56:49 (edited)
    Ken
    +1
    They couldn't be the same White House personnel who are "leaking" "sensitive" military information, such as the fact that we had OBL's DNA from a certain doctor who now faces 33 years in prison, that Obama has a "kill list" and decides on drone strikes from the Oval Office, could they? Even Democrat Dianne Feinstein was outraged at those leaks.

    True, we don't know that Obama knew anything about Fast and Furious before it came to light that Agent Terry was killed by a weapon sold by our own DOJ and ATF, and that's the whole point of the investigation, isn't it? What did they know and when did they learn of it?

    Using a claim of executive privilege at this late date to avoid coming clean really does imply that there is something they are covering up. I an legal case when a demand for production of documents is made, any privilege must be asserted at the very outset, and a log with a description in general terms of the documents along with the reason(s) the privilege should attach. In the case of the Fast and Furious investigation a first-year law school graduate could have handled the responses more professionally than the DOJ did.

    Add to that, the DOJ had to admit that one letter they sent to the committee was false and had to retract it. Holder also had to "retract" a lar...&

    &&
    They couldn't be the same White House personnel who are "leaking" "sensitive" military information, such as the fact that we had OBL's DNA from a certain doctor who now faces 33 years in prison, that Obama has a "kill list" and decides on drone strikes from the Oval Office, could they? Even Democrat Dianne Feinstein was outraged at those leaks.

    True, we don't know that Obama knew anything about Fast and Furious before it came to light that Agent Terry was killed by a weapon sold by our own DOJ and ATF, and that's the whole point of the investigation, isn't it? What did they know and when did they learn of it?

    Using a claim of executive privilege at this late date to avoid coming clean really does imply that there is something they are covering up. I an legal case when a demand for production of documents is made, any privilege must be asserted at the very outset, and a log with a description in general terms of the documents along with the reason(s) the privilege should attach. In the case of the Fast and Furious investigation a first-year law school graduate could have handled the responses more professionally than the DOJ did.

    Add to that, the DOJ had to admit that one letter they sent to the committee was false and had to retract it. Holder also had to "retract" a large part of his initial testimony regarding when he first became aware of Fast & Furious, as documents showed it was months before he claimed it was. In other words, our Attorney General, the top law-enforcement official in the nation, lied to congress. Martha Stewart actually served time in prison for lying (not under oath) to a federal investigator, but our AG gets to "retract" his lies. What Eric Holder has done would be a crime and subject any ordinary American citizen to prosecution - e.g. Roger Clemens and Martha.

    There is a reason for any cover-up and that reason is that there is information that those doing the cover-up, e.g. as in Watergate, don't want to become public. Fast & Furious is every bit as bad as Watergate, and even worse because there were no deaths in the Watergate scandal, just a break-in at a political office followed by a cover-up, while in Fast & Furious there have been the deaths of two American agents and over 200 Mexican citizens..
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  • meme14 Ken 2012/06/23 17:37:28
    meme14
    Who knows who is leaking information...but certainly it is being leaked...and, so, anyone with half a brain would protect sensitive information until they are sure that it will be kept confidential. If he were to release that information knowing there were leaks and that information was sensitive and caused more harm...he would be irresponsible and he would be crucified. And who knows what kind of lists any administration has had - Can you imagine the lists that other countries have? I am sure we are at the top of some of those too. We have to trust within reason that our President is looking out for our best interests. We can't demean him at every turn and call ourselves patriotic. There is not enough information available yet on the whole Fast and Furious thing..it will eventually, when the time is right and all threat is gone, be made public- until then we are guessing...I don't buy the implication thing - I just think it's too fallible when there's not enough information.
  • Ken meme14 2012/06/23 22:21:16
    Ken
    +1
    The problem I have is with your use of the terms "sensitive information" and "confidential." Why is the information "sensitive" or "confidential?" Is it because it will harm the national interests or because it will show where the blame for the Fast & Furious debacle really lies? If it is the latter, the fox can't be allowed to guard the hen house - the content of the information must be made available for review by the courts to see if it really is "privileged."

    By the way, the assertion of "executive privilege" doesn't mean that the information is in any way classified or "sensitive" (that would be a different objection to its production, one that could be overcome by simply redacting the legitimately sensitive information), it means that the president's discussions with his appointees in formulating national policy shouldn't be subjected to "snooping" by the legislative branch. It is highly questionable whether it applies in the F&F investigation, and it should have been asserted long ago, so a court could have determined by this time whether it is actually subject to the privilege. That is why the manner in which Holder and the DOJ have responded to this entire investigation into F&F stinks to high heaven.
  • ReconMa... Ken 2012/07/01 17:16:35
  • Ken ReconMa... 2012/07/01 19:53:56
    Ken
    +1
    Yes, and ATF had electronic tracking devices in all of the weapons it allowed to "walk" during the Bush administration. Fast and Furious had only one purpose, to allow hundreds of guns that are traceable to America show up at border crime scenes and then raise a hew and cry for more gun control in the USA. It was a political exercise, pure and simple, with no law-enforcement aims whatsoever.
  • ReconMa... Ken 2012/07/02 15:40:12
  • Ken meme14 2012/06/23 02:59:37
    Ken
    +3
    Unlike Obama where the deaths of two U.S. agents are involved, Bush did it over Congress' attempt to get documents regarding the firing of eight U.S. Attorneys. U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President - when Bill Clinton took office he fired every single one of them (90 some-odd!) and appointed his own cronies. Congress had no business looking into an internal decision that was made by the executive branch.

    In this case, the claim of executive privilege is woefully late - legally it should have been made months ago. And no, the information they seek isn't classified and that wouldn't be an excuse if it were classified. Congressmen and women have security clearances and could have covered the material in a closed-door hearing. The executive privilege being asserted at the last minute, over documents that are sought that may evidence a cover-up, imply that the President himself may have been in on the cover-up, as both he and Holder have denied any prior knowledge of the Fast and Furious operation. Otherwise he is putting his a$$ on the line to protect his buddy Eric. Additionally, Eric Holder and the Justice Department have already acknowledged lying to Congress - they had to retract both a letter sent to the committee and change Holder's testimony. Martha ...

    &


    Unlike Obama where the deaths of two U.S. agents are involved, Bush did it over Congress' attempt to get documents regarding the firing of eight U.S. Attorneys. U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President - when Bill Clinton took office he fired every single one of them (90 some-odd!) and appointed his own cronies. Congress had no business looking into an internal decision that was made by the executive branch.

    In this case, the claim of executive privilege is woefully late - legally it should have been made months ago. And no, the information they seek isn't classified and that wouldn't be an excuse if it were classified. Congressmen and women have security clearances and could have covered the material in a closed-door hearing. The executive privilege being asserted at the last minute, over documents that are sought that may evidence a cover-up, imply that the President himself may have been in on the cover-up, as both he and Holder have denied any prior knowledge of the Fast and Furious operation. Otherwise he is putting his a$$ on the line to protect his buddy Eric. Additionally, Eric Holder and the Justice Department have already acknowledged lying to Congress - they had to retract both a letter sent to the committee and change Holder's testimony. Martha Stewart actually served time in prison for lying, not under oath, to a government investigator. Now we have the top law enforcement official of the United States lying to Congress not just once, but twice that we know of.

    In the Fast & Furious debacle, unlike Bush's firing of eight attorneys, there are two dead agents of the United States government, and guns which the Holder Justice Department allowed to be sold to violent Mexican Drug Lords have been directly tied to those deaths. There are also the deaths of hundreds of Mexicans citizens and the Mexican government, which was not notified of the operation, is rightly outraged. To this date no liability or blame for a tragically flawed operation has been pladed! Add to that the fact that it appears that the point of the exercise, where no method of tracking the guns was instituted, was simply to have American-sourced guns show up at drug-lord crime scenes in Mexico to give the anti-gun lobby, of which Obama and Holder are members in good standing, ammunition to call for more gun control.

    You have posted nothing but radical left-wing blather, name-calling and speculation without a single fact. Typical for a mindless lemming following the messiah over the cliff!
    obama lemmings
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  • snell/G... meme14 2012/06/23 20:16:31 (edited)
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +4
    There is no 'innuendo'. The entire issue revolves around the FACT that Holder (and obama) are 'with'holding the truth. They are LYING.

    The 'truth' is you just stepped in megga do-do and are slipping down the slippery slope of hate and are too stupid to realize it!

    The public in general could care less what word for word is in those documents - what they DO however care about is that justice is being served and the TRUTH is being told - and it isn't. THAT is what we care about. We all (with exception) are FULLY privvy to this 'Holder' fiasco and it's ties to the illustrous POTUS, and we likewise are fully aware that they are BOTH are track-record liars!

    Your ignorant and childish name calling, insults and 'dissin' towards my fellow SH's on here, i.e.,: "innuendo", "conspiracy theory talk", "rightwingnuttyitis", "satisfy your curiosity", "play nice with republicans who distort everything anyway", "discredited 'birthers', "make wild ass guesses", "like paranoid nuts", "all of your bitching and moaning", "don't delude yourselves".....IS WHAT IT IS:

    commode with filth in it
  • Chi~Cat snell/G... 2012/06/23 20:42:34
    Chi~Cat
    +2
    Perfect scenario for that libtard scumbucket, actually, wasn't that on ITs wall on a good day?
  • Chi~Cat snell/G... 2012/06/23 20:43:56
  • pumpkin... Chi~Cat 2012/06/23 21:22:15
    pumpkin1960
    +2
    that looks really hot!
  • snell/G... pumpkin... 2012/06/30 11:04:59
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +1
    ....it will be!
  • Chi~Cat snell/G... 2012/06/30 13:27:48
    Chi~Cat
    combined with your toilet scenario.....HOT MESS!
  • ReconMa... snell/G... 2012/07/05 19:08:17
  • Ken 2012/06/22 21:42:50
    Ken
    +6
    Actually Holder isn't in contempt just yet - the House Oversight Committee voted to bring the matter to a full vote on the floor of the House of Representatives. It does appear that the vote will be held early next week and that Holder will be held in contempt.
  • ReconMa... Ken 2012/06/23 00:42:13
  • beavith1 ReconMa... 2012/06/23 03:31:17
    beavith1
    +6
    i've held him in contempt for quite some time now...
  • ReconMa... beavith1 2012/07/05 19:09:13
  • snell/G... ReconMa... 2012/06/26 01:04:31
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +2
    ...but who's listening to Congress these days.
  • snell/G... Ken 2012/07/02 18:38:24
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +2
    ....its a done deal now!
  • Ken snell/G... 2012/07/03 05:15:31
    Ken
    +1
    But of no avail - the man has no integrity, just like his boss Obama. He heads up the Justice Department which makes the decision on whether to prosecute. Surprise, surprise - no prosecution. In the past where there has been a conflict like that a special prosecutor has been appointed, but not in this corrupt administration. I heard today that the general counsel for the House of Representatives may be able to do something but I'm not sure what.
  • Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning 2012/06/22 21:35:34
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +6
    Yeah...I know whats in those documents;-the communist manifesto to use the killing of people by gun running so that they can use that as a pretext to take everyone's guns! (except people like new black panthers and marxist groups).
    Senator Joe McCarthy warned us 60 years ago!
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/06/22 21:32:33
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +5
    Thanks for sharing.
  • keeper 2012/06/22 21:11:36
    keeper
    +7
    Holder needs to be prosecuted for everything he has done as an AG. He is another one of the criminals associated with BHO.
  • ReconMa... keeper 2012/06/23 00:52:43
  • ALPEAUX 2012/06/22 21:00:50
    ALPEAUX
    +8
    Eric Holder should be named Eric Withholder! He has the same brain power as his poopsie boss (SSOB spelt backwards)! Alpeaux
  • Oaces_boss_yo® 2012/06/22 20:58:24
  • Lanikai 2012/06/22 20:36:34
    Lanikai
    +6
    They should jail him and let him sweat it out there until he gets every scrap of paper, every email, every text about this to congress.

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