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Afterbirth abortion... Okay or not okay?

Liberty Blade 2012/02/28 09:22:26
Yes, it's okay to abort after birth.
No, abortion is wrong after and before birth.
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Two ethicists working with Australian universities argue in the latest online edition of the Journal of Medical Ethics that if abortion of a fetus is allowable, so to should be the termination of a newborn.

Alberto Giubilini with Monash University in Melbourne and Francesca
Minerva at the Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics at the
University of Melbourne write that in “circumstances occur[ing] after
birth such that they would have justified abortion, what we call
after-birth abortion should be permissible.”


The two are quick to note that they prefer the term “after-birth
abortion“ as opposed to ”infanticide.” Why? Because it “[emphasizes]
that the moral status of the individual killed is comparable with that
of a fetus (on which ‘abortions’ in the traditional sense are performed)
rather than to that of a child.” The authors also do not agree with the
term euthanasia for this practice as the best interest of the person
who would be killed is not necessarily the primary reason his or her
life is being terminated. In other words, it may be in the parents’ best
interest to terminate the life, not the newborns.


The circumstances, the authors state, where after-birth abortion
should be considered acceptable include instances where the newborn
would be putting the well-being of the family at risk, even if it had
the potential for an “acceptable” life. The authors cite Downs Syndrome
as an example, stating that while the quality of life of individuals
with Downs is often reported as happy, “such children might be an
unbearable burden on the family and on society as a whole, when the
state economically provides for their care.”

This means a newborn whose family (or society) that could be
socially, economically or psychologically burdened or damaged by the
newborn should have the ability to seek out an after-birth abortion.
They state that after-birth abortions are not preferable over early-term
abortions of fetuses but should circumstances change with the family or
the fetus in the womb, then they advocate that this option should be
made available.


The authors go on to state that the moral status of a newborn is
equivalent to a fetus in that it cannot be considered a person in the
“morally relevant sense.” On this point, the authors write:


Both a fetus and a newborn certainly are human beings and
potential persons, but neither is a ‘person’ in the sense of ‘subject
of a moral right to life’. We take ‘person’ to mean an individual who is
capable of attributing to her own existence some (at least) basic value
such that being deprived of this existence represents a loss to her.


[...]


Merely being human is not in itself a reason for ascribing someone a
right to life. Indeed, many humans are not considered subjects of a
right to life: spare embryos where research on embryo stem cells is
permitted, fetuses where abortion is permitted, criminals where capital
punishment is legal.


Giubilini and Minerva believe that being able to understand the value
of a different situation, which often depends on mental development,
determines personhood. For example, being able to tell the difference
between an undesirable situation and a desirable one. They note that
fetuses and newborns are “potential persons.” The authors do acknowledge
that a mother, who they cite as an example of a true person, can
attribute “subjective” moral rights to the fetus or newborn, but they
state this is only a projected moral status.


The authors counter the argument that these “potential persons” have
the right to reach that potential by stating it is “over-ridden by the
interests of actual people (parents, family, society) to pursue their
own well-being because, as we have just argued, merely potential people
cannot be harmed by not being brought into existence.”


And what about adoption? Giubilini and Minerva write that, as for the
mother putting the child up for adoption, her emotional state should be
considered as a trumping right. For instance, if she were to “suffer
psychological distress” from giving up her child to someone else — they
state that natural mothers can dream their child will return to them —
then after-birth abortion should be considered an allowable alternative.


The authors do not tackle the issue of what age an infant would be considered a person.


The National Catholic Register thinks that these authors are right
— once you accept their ideas on personhood. The Register states that
the argument made by the ethicists is almost pro-life in that it
“highlights the absurdity of the pro-abortion argument”:


The second we allow ourselves to become the arbiters of
who is human and who isn’t, this is the calamitous yet inevitable end.
Once you say all human life is not sacred, the rest is just drawing
random lines in the sand.


First Things, a publication of the The Institute on Religion and Public Life, notes
that while this article doesn’t mean the law could — or would — allow
after-birth abortions in future medical procedures, arguments such as
“the right to dehydrate the persistently unconscious” began in much the
same way in bioethics journals.

Respectfully submitted from TheBlaze.com

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  • Pat 2012/04/29 04:05:08
    No, abortion is wrong after birth, but okay before birth.
    Pat
    This "after birth" abortion sounds like murder to me. Abortions should be limited to the period of time before the fetus is viable.
  • MARK WELLS 2012/04/29 02:48:10
    No, abortion is wrong after and before birth.
    MARK WELLS
    Abortion is wrong no matter what. If the baby has already been born....it is not an abortion, it's murder.
  • Ali 2012/04/22 20:38:21
    No, abortion is wrong after and before birth.
    Ali
    It is taking a life. there is only one acception, and that is if you are raped. should you have to give birth to a child that is not yours? whayt if you are in middle or high school? should you have to give up everything to raise a child?
  • Bocephus 2012/03/08 22:14:38
    No, abortion is wrong after and before birth.
    Bocephus
    +1
    There is absolutely no way to justify that horrific 'procedure' that then cuts the back of the head that was partially delivered and the brains were scrambled using stainless steel instruments, and evacuated with a suction. This is clearly murder. This is clearly unlike the usual practice of medicine.

    An abortion is what happens to a child within the womb of its mother. This is clear from every court case dealing with the issue. In partial-birth abortion, however, the delivery is 85% complete. The child is not on the inside of its mother when it's killed; it's on the outside. anti abortion
  • Dauda Soja Guri 2012/03/07 23:07:26
    No, abortion is wrong after and before birth.
    Dauda Soja Guri
    yes and no, meaning, you look for the two side if the mother will suffer for the next pregnancy than you can abort, otherwise, strongly not supported
  • Rave 2012/02/28 12:04:47
    No, abortion is wrong after birth, but okay before birth.
    Rave
    +1
    There is no such thing as "abortion" AFTER birth. You cannot abort something after it is born, you can only kill a person after that.

    I am not for late term abortion, but I believe there is a time when getting an abortion (Early enough) is justified.
  • kimlyn 2012/02/28 10:15:20
    No, abortion is wrong after birth, but okay before birth.
    kimlyn
    abortion is okay before birth because the featus has not formed into an independantly living being.... but after birth is simply cruel...
  • Chief kimlyn 2012/02/28 15:37:36
    Chief
    At how many weeks would you say an abortion is OK because "the fetus has not formed into an independently living being"?
  • kimlyn Chief 2012/03/01 07:43:40
    kimlyn
    well practically anytime that is not dangerous for the impregnated women for the whole time the fetus is in the womb it is not an independantly living being
  • katriin... kimlyn 2012/02/29 12:54:20
    katriina puumalainen
    +3
    hve you any child? Maybe you can´t know he or she is person already before birth. he can feel the touch even on week 15-20 into the belly!
  • kimlyn katriin... 2012/03/01 07:47:54
    kimlyn
    oh god really?.... what are you smoking because id like some of it... all the hippie nonsence is just that nonsence.... what if the woman was raped? hmmm should she be forced to give birth to the evidence? what if the woman had dreams aspirations ect ect. and by some freakish accident her birth controll didnt take?? should she be forced to give up her life for that? abortion is a personal decision and sometimes it is better for both the fetus and the woman because life would have been hugely compremised...
  • goatman112003 2012/02/28 09:42:59
    No, abortion is wrong after and before birth.
    goatman112003
    +1
    Look you are talking about infanticide and its simply murder as the same as late term abortion where the child is viable outside the womb. It using perverse logic as it means that wide spread murder is going to happen. What next the elderly or the crippled. This is exactly what Hitler advocated.

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