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Afghan Teens Face Death for Illicit Love: Should Someone Intervene to Save Them?

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From Herat, Afghanistan, comes the tale of two 17-year-olds, whose love story may end as tragically as Shakespeare's "Romeo and Juliet."

This pair of "star-crossed lovers" met and fell in love while working at the local ice cream factory. After a year of hiding their relationship, the couple decided to drive to the courthouse and get married.

But it was not to be.

The couple's secret romance defied dominant traditions of arranged marriages and close family scrutiny. Furthermore, Rafi Mohammed, a young Tajik man, and Halima Mohammedi, a young Hazara woman, came from different ethnic groups.

On their way to the courthouse, a group of men spotted the couple, yanked them into the road, and began to interrogate them about their right to be together. An angry mob of 300 quickly surged, accusing the couple of adultery and demanding their deaths by stoning or hanging.

The couple was rescued by security forces, but the riot continued for hours, leaving one man dead and the local police station charred.

Mohammed and Mohammedi, now confined to juvenile prison, are in the hands of the Afghan legal system, but they may have more to fear from their own families.

The parents of the teenagers are calling for the government to kill them both, and say that if they do not, they will kill their children upon release, in order to restore honor to their families.

Fortunately, after discussing the case, the provincial council decided that the teens deserve the government’s protection, due to the fact that neither was engaged and because each said they wanted to get married.

Yet, Mohammed and Mohammedi have not been freed or provided with any kind of long-term security.

To further complicate matters, the family of the man killed in the riot says Mohammedi is to blame. And how can she make things right? Marry one of our other sons they say, and your debt will be repaid.

What do you think? Should someone intervene to save this pair of "star-crossed lovers"?

Read More: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/31/world/asia/31her...

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  • Kari 2011/08/02 07:09:34 (edited)
    Undecided
    Kari
    +15
    I don't really understand WHO is going to be doing the saving here. Yes, the Afghan government should save them. No, the American government should not get involved in any way. I've said it before, and I'll sure as hell say it again, I sure am glad I'm not from Afghanistan, or any of those messed up countries in the middle east. There's no doubt that this case is very much tragic. Two people that love each other are potentially facing death for it. Their own families want them dead. That crap is not "honor" killings, it's just murder. How does murdering your own child make you an honorable character? I try to be as tolerant as possible, but sometimes, certain cultures are just completely fu*ked up!

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  • La 2011/08/29 16:26:05
    No
    La
    Not your business. They should get out of the country.
  • gregory.ditzler 2011/08/28 04:33:27
    Yes
    gregory.ditzler
    allow them to plead assylem and come to the u.s.
  • Ash-the-empress 2011/08/19 03:02:54 (edited)
    Undecided
    Ash-the-empress
    Please, no one intervened when some American missionaries were beheaded.
    No one is going to save these two.
    Yet another demonstration of their barbaric culture.
  • disclaimer 2011/08/04 07:07:18
    Yes
    disclaimer
    Someone other than the US government. But it looks like the Afghan government has its head in the right place for once.
  • Ozzyboy 2011/08/03 14:34:22
    Yes
    Ozzyboy
    But it should be the UN or human rights commission. Not America. Where's the human rights commission when it is really needed. Oh, that's right,going after us horrible Americans for saying we want to protect our borders.
  • NYCbrit 2011/08/03 14:20:22
    Undecided
    NYCbrit
    +1
    People don't seem to realize that this type of situation exists in many of these Middle Eastern countries ALL THE TIME. How could we intervene in another country, against parents who want to kill these kids themselves? It's horrible, it's morally reprehensible but it's not the job of the US to police everyone, everywhere, always. Perhaps the UN should step up. But good luck changing an entire region's cultural views.
  • Joe Everett 2011/08/03 14:16:55
    Yes
    Joe Everett
    +1
    And they think WE are backwards.
  • doc 2011/08/03 14:15:45
    Undecided
    doc
    +1
    This is the problem when we allow religion to cloud our judgement -- we see it as immoral or wrong when "they" are doing it yet in perspective we are "they" to them
  • GINGERBREAD 2011/08/03 14:12:52
    Undecided
    GINGERBREAD
    +1
    Welcome to the wonderful world of the muslims. We hear of all these things happening in muslim countries, but for the life of me, why aren't the muslims in this country changing their affiliations? And, what is worse, there are people flocking to the wonderful world of Islam here in the USA. Be careful what you wish for, you just may get it.
  • Little Fawn 2011/08/03 13:56:08
    Yes
    Little Fawn
    Nobody, and I mean nobody, has the right to dictate to another person who to love. We can't stop what we feel and it's atrocious for somebody to be put to death for loving somebody else.
  • Rod 2011/08/03 13:30:24
    No
    Rod
    Come on now. How would you suggest we intervene? We could of course, go through diplomatic channels and ask for mercy. But that would be the end of it. We don't even know the full story. This is their law and their religion. I don't agree with them. I think that they are barbaric and unreasonable to say the least. But I don't wan't, and wouldn't stand for, another country interfering in my countries laws or my religion. Do what you can quietly and diplomatically. Other than that stay out.
  • Franklin 2011/08/03 13:24:24
    No
    Franklin
    We can't ! democrats demanded we did not go there to make “change” so this is just a cultural difference ...its none of our business. We already have an illegal war in Libya , we should not make Afghanistan into an illegal war as well
  • doc Franklin 2011/08/03 14:17:14
    doc
    I thought we already did have an illegal war in Afghanistan?
  • Franklin doc 2011/08/03 21:12:38
    Franklin
    don't believe everything your "God" tells you .... god Obama God its all bull crap!
  • Ishmael 2011/08/03 13:05:13 (edited)
    Undecided
    Ishmael
    +1
    As sad as this story IS, THIS is how Afghani society has worked for 4,000 years. Neither WE, nor anyone else is going to change that in either 10 years or 100. While neither Tajik nor Hazaran, I offer THIS clip illustrating the exact situation under the Pukhtunwali, the Law of the Pathans/Pashtuns about 7 minutes into this clip. From Simcha Jacobovici's illuminating documentary, "The Quest for The Lost Tribes". It also illustrates that the people we are fighting in Afghanistan are actually some of the Lost Israelite Tribes:





  • Rave 2011/08/03 12:57:30
    Yes
    Rave
    +1
    There are many people in the middle east that need to be saved right now.
  • FluffyCupcakespanker~PWCM~JLA 2011/08/03 12:48:22
    Yes
    FluffyCupcakespanker~PWCM~JLA
    People there are barbaric animals
  • johnnie.prewett 2011/08/03 12:30:35
    Undecided
    johnnie.prewett
    Everyone dies. How long any of us remain on this earth is up to Jesus. Nobody leaves this world till He gives the final OK.
  • william 2011/08/03 12:18:30 (edited)
    Undecided
    william
    .Islam is a religion of peace , and we need more mosques , so we can get rid of all those ,suicide bombing , Catholics, Baptists , Mormon , that the left hates so much , and see how well their , if it feels good do it , policy will work under a predominately Muslim majority baptists mormon hates feels policy work predominately muslim majority
  • Hermes william 2011/08/04 02:20:40
    Hermes
    Many of us on the Left say no such thing. I am to the Left - and I am 1000% against fundamentalism, including and foremost fundamentalist Islam.

    But fundamentalist Islam is NOT all Islam, any more than fundamentalist Christianity is all Christianity. I would also remind you of the Reconstructionist Christian movement, also called Dominionist Christianity - a branch of fundamental Christianity - which even wants the same thing as fundamentalist Islam - the death of the unbeliever, of homosexuals, and so forth. Rule of the secular state by the religion, etc.

    It is fundamentalism that is the enemy of humanity, decency and morality -- it is just that at this point in time, the Muslim fundamentalists are the most powerful within any of the major faith communities.

    Regards,

    Reyn
  • LarryFine 2011/08/03 12:00:12
    No
    LarryFine
    +2
    Let this be a lesson to all the left-wingers out there that are working so hard to shield the dark side of Islamic beliefs.
  • mountainman 2011/08/03 11:51:05
    No
    mountainman
    +2
    At least no one from the United States should intervene. That is one jacked up group of people over there and their "Traditions" are really bizarre as well. Well...at least to us in the states. Stay out of it. It is THEIR country, let them run it. We have enough to deal with here on our own. Even the parents are involved in how this is to be dealt with. Hey, how about we turn OUR kids over to someone else to let them raise them for us. Yeah, I didn't think so.....
  • Wahvlvke 2011/08/03 11:36:45
    No
    Wahvlvke
    +2
    Another day in the land of the religion of peace.
  • Tigger Too 2011/08/03 10:32:08
    Yes
    Tigger Too
    +2
    Since these teenagers aren't U.S. citizens, we should stay the hell out of it. However, the United Nations (yeah, I know they're worthless, but it's worth a try) and the Human Rights Watch need to step in and stop the Afghan authorities from executing these two lovebirds. I'm guessing that one of the objections to their marriage is because, not only is this not an arranged union, they are from two different sects. I feel sorry for these two young lovers, because all they want to do is marry and spend their lives together. However, because of Sharia law, they have to contend with those pesky honor killings. Really, this is just barbaric. It's stories like this one that should make us all glad we live here in America. Hell, the worst thing we have to bitch about is whether or not gays should be allowed to get legally married.

    Whatever happened in the case of the Iranian who was sentenced to be stoned to death for committing adultery? Does anybody know?
  • DFA 2011/08/03 08:53:58
    Undecided
    DFA
    They should move to Canada.
  • Chi~Cat 2011/08/03 08:47:15 (edited)
    No
    Chi~Cat
    Nope, they just murdered a boy, hey, this is them, not US. And, NFN: how many pleas for a Woman? come on, Man~~~~~~
  • kkjjww2011@yahoo.com 2011/08/03 08:46:45
  • Zombiecat~Metalhead4Life 2011/08/03 08:38:15
    No
    Zombiecat~Metalhead4Life
    I very much think that death is outlandish for this... they weren't even married yet. What kind of parents would want their children killed for their own "honor". There is no honor in that. But on the other hand I do not think we should intervene... for one thing we have enough on our plate, for another we worked to give them freedoms and now it is time for them to use them. Anyway, if heaven is any kind of heaven at all they will be together in spirit for eternity, away from these wicked people. Death is not the end after all....
  • KelciLynDiNatale 2011/08/03 07:21:08
    Yes
    KelciLynDiNatale
    You can't choose who you fall in love with, and if who knows, maybe this is true love? Why would anyone want to kill two people for falling in love? I just think its sad, and I hope someone does intervene and save these poor teens.
  • Stuart 2011/08/03 06:40:48
    Yes
    Stuart
    +1
    All I have to say is that at least they are Muslim. I would hate for them to be born in America and be one of those hateful Christians. Some member of the Religion of Peace will certainly step in and save them.

    After all, the honor killings, suicide bombers, fatwas and jihads are aberrations as we are all told so there must be millions of true believers that will stop this travesty of justice and protect them from their family's code of honor.

    Just because this happens in Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Sudan, Libya, Kuwait, and every other Muslim Country just means the people living there don't understand the Koran like the American's do. But, if it is the truth, there must be at least a few true believers that will stand against their fellow Muslim and save these kids.
  • Tigger Too Stuart 2011/08/03 22:41:59
    Tigger Too
    What's your point? This is a situation of two star-crossed lovers whose desire to marry and spend their lives together has brought the wrath of the Afghan government and their families down upon them, perhaps even costing them their lives. Yes, Afghanistan is an Islamic nation that practices Sharia Law, which would prevent a union between this boy and girl. They are of different sects, and the marriage wasn't arranged by their families beforehand, and thus the couple was arrested. Would sentencing the lovers to death as an "honor killing" be barbaric, and is Sharia Law unpalatable in cases like this? Absolutely. However, I don't know why you've chosen to take this story and turn it into a condemnation of the Muslim religion and people. You do nothing but perpetuate the hatred and intolerance existing between Christianity and Islam.
  • Student 2011/08/03 06:28:24
    No
    Student
    Its curtains for these kids.
  • Sean 2011/08/03 06:10:13
    Yes
    Sean
    +1
    Yes, someone should.
  • Nudenz 2011/08/03 05:05:17
    No
    Nudenz
    I should have said yes. This interpretation of "Sharia Law" is to me a corruption of the Koran. Inter-tribal differences have no place in modern society.
  • don nh 460 2011/08/03 04:44:22
    No
    don nh 460
    this is still a soveriegn nation , though occupied at the moment.
    THIS IS A MATTER FOR THE PEOPLE OF AGHANISTAN.
    certainly for the court system of afghanistan. if we are going to get out of a "free" afghanistan we must let them stand on thier own. Haven't we meddled enough in this country and iraq for that matter.
    this form of punishment is part of the edict of thier religion. Who should that someone be but one of thier own. are we that politically correct were as we now start "fixing" religions.
    at 17 both should have known the consiquences of thier actions.and had they arrived at
    courthouse would the couple even been married?
  • natwebb 2011/08/03 04:23:13
    Yes
    natwebb
    Why do these dark age cultural fools want to kill people who do not live in accord with their magic book?
  • Mog of War 2011/08/03 04:08:16
    Yes
    Mog of War
    The Government of the Land needs to protect its people. They ought to move them to a different province, and issue them new identities. This whole shenanigan is much ado about nothing, that their identities as Afghans, are more important than the petty rivalries of their tribes and clans, and the people of the land need to be told that by force. (It's the only way the exact same sort of thing stopped happening in the United States[or more accurately became the exception rather than the rule], or do we forget that soldiers were involved in enforcing desegregation?) If the tribes of their province wish to squabble over such pettiness, then the legal system ought to call for another tribe to take them in. If none of the tribes are willing to sponsor them, then the tribal system will have demonstrated that it has failed decisively.
  • ♪_Jinxxed_♫ 2011/08/03 03:43:26
    Undecided
    ♪_Jinxxed_♫
    Its very complicated. i wish something could be done for them. but it sounds like the only thing they can do is either leave, which could cause more problems, or go their seperate ways...but then the girl will probably have to marry someone else and neither will be happy. its just a huge mess.
  • ««zamboni»»Hellsoldier-BN0 2011/08/03 03:21:03
    Yes
    ««zamboni»»Hellsoldier-BN0
    THE TROOPS ARE STILL THERE!!! DO SOMETHING, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!
  • KoolGuyL 2011/08/03 03:06:46
    Yes
    KoolGuyL
    Yes but the U.S. has bigger problems to worry about now.
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