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"Affordable" health care? It was just an act!

RJ~PWCM~JLA 2012/12/13 13:20:20
The Democrat party claimed that the Affordable Health Care Act - i.e. 0bamacare - was going to make health care affordable, and was going to lower health insurance premiums.

You knew that was a lie, didn't you?

Come on, admit it. Nobody could have been that gullible or stupid as to actually believe the Democrats when they said that adding millions of new people to the health insurance roles would actually lower premiums. Right?

And in the face of rising premiums this year, and requests for rate increases for next year, nobody could be that much of an ideological imbecile as to continue to argue that 0bamacare will somehow magically lower premiums at some unspecified time in the future, through some unspecified mechanism. Right?

We told you so!

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  • ☆astac☆~PWCM 2012/12/13 13:34:04
    ☆astac☆~PWCM
    +21
    The purpose of obamacare was to destroy our heathcare. Those progressives on the left wanted to enforce their eugenic goals, and they wanted to limit healthcare for the people.
    Read the books of the obama advisers who came up with this. This is all about eugenics, population control, and giving more resources to the elites

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  • princess 2012/12/28 10:56:29
    princess
    It's not about health care, it's always been about more power & control over us.
  • Woof 2012/12/16 23:17:45
    Woof
    +1
    Honestly, that's what the republicans have been saying about it and exactly why the idea of repeal is so attractive. It was lipstick on a pig. Now the lipstick is off.
  • AL 2012/12/15 08:56:13
    AL
    +2
    Affordable my ass, this is just another Obama power grab is all
  • Fariborz-Zak 2012/12/15 07:56:13
    Fariborz-Zak
    how 1./. treat USA?
  • cut and paste king 2012/12/14 09:50:26
    cut and paste king
    Who created Obamacare? Free market conservatives!
    Filed Under: Robert Field
    POSTED: Friday, February 11, 2011, 7:00 AM
    You must purchase health insurance. The government says so. That is the flashpoint of health reform – the individual mandate forcing everyone to buy coverage whether they want to or not.

    Who concocted this idea? Was it wide-eyed liberals trying to replace the free market with a government-run system? Hardly.

    The individual mandate was the brainchild of the Heritage Foundation, one of the most conservative think tanks in the country. They saw it as part of the salvation of free market health care.

    You’d hardly know it today from the Foundation’s website. A recent visit to the homepage found news on the fight against Obamacare, with links to a page condemning health reform for its “mandates and federal control.” But do some searching on the site, and you’ll discover where the mandate idea actually came from.

    Or, you can follow this direct link to Heritage’s 1990 policy report, which explains why an individual mandate should be part of a free market approach to health reform. (The report can also be accessed here in html format.)

    Here is some of what it says. “Under the Heritage proposal, it would be illegal not to buy basic catastrophic insurance…” When you...











    Who created Obamacare? Free market conservatives!
    Filed Under: Robert Field
    POSTED: Friday, February 11, 2011, 7:00 AM
    You must purchase health insurance. The government says so. That is the flashpoint of health reform – the individual mandate forcing everyone to buy coverage whether they want to or not.

    Who concocted this idea? Was it wide-eyed liberals trying to replace the free market with a government-run system? Hardly.

    The individual mandate was the brainchild of the Heritage Foundation, one of the most conservative think tanks in the country. They saw it as part of the salvation of free market health care.

    You’d hardly know it today from the Foundation’s website. A recent visit to the homepage found news on the fight against Obamacare, with links to a page condemning health reform for its “mandates and federal control.” But do some searching on the site, and you’ll discover where the mandate idea actually came from.

    Or, you can follow this direct link to Heritage’s 1990 policy report, which explains why an individual mandate should be part of a free market approach to health reform. (The report can also be accessed here in html format.)

    Here is some of what it says. “Under the Heritage proposal, it would be illegal not to buy basic catastrophic insurance…” When you file your tax return, “If the proof of insurance forms were not attached, or did not indicate that the family was insured throughout the year, a financial penalty would be imposed.” (See page 13 of the report.)

    The mandate served the same purpose in Heritagecare in 1990 as it does in Obamacare today. Private insurance markets don’t work if the risk pool is too small. When too many healthy people opt out of coverage, insurance becomes unaffordable for everyone else because it is impossible to spread the cost. Then, the only alternative is a government plan.

    The mandate-based approach was so appealing to free market supporters in the 1990s that the Republicans proposed it as a law in 1993. Bob Dole, the Senate minority leader at the time, served as co-sponsor.

    This says a lot about health reform debates today. Contrary to almost everything you hear, they do not primarily revolve around ideology. To claim otherwise is to succumb to severe amnesia. Differences are almost entirely driven by partisan politics.

    It would be nice to return to more reasoned public discussions about how best to improve our health care system. Conservative and liberal ideas actually align more closely than you might think. Proposals in Congress for all-or-nothing repeal and threats to de-fund reform do nothing to advance this goal, to say the least.

    It would also be nice, in the interests of promoting truthful discourse, if those who invented the basis of Obama’s plan would put partisanship aside and acknowledge who they are.

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  • RJ~PWCM... cut and... 2012/12/14 21:16:20
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    This story was discredited a long time ago.
  • cut and... RJ~PWCM... 2012/12/14 21:20:04
    cut and paste king
    I guess we re gonna have to wait until 2014. And see how it works
  • AL cut and... 2012/12/15 08:58:33 (edited)
    AL
    You're starting to sound just like nanny Pelosi herself! We have to pass it, to find out whats in it?


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  • cut and... AL 2012/12/15 09:22:09
    cut and paste king
    I dont predict the future. Only an imbecile can do that
  • Woof cut and... 2012/12/16 23:20:34
    Woof
    In the interest of promoting truthful discourse, who are you? I'd like to check that out first.
  • cut and... Woof 2012/12/16 23:28:33
    cut and paste king
    I m retired live in miami beach and have plenty of time in my hands
    I sit on my beach chair watching the babes topless a corona and with my i pad. Attacking the evil doers
  • Woof cut and... 2012/12/16 23:27:04 (edited)
    Woof
    More pig slop from our liberal friend who sarcastically uses "A True Capitalist's" is actually a progressive wolf hiding in a sheepskin. Funny how you call yourself a conservative then proceed to pat progressives on the back and slam conservatives. You think your so cleaver. Take note folks who aren't so political, how this guy wants you to think he's a conservative but read what he writes and you'll see he is all BS. Just another progressive lying. He must have read Rules for Radicals and he thinks he's tricky.
  • cut and... Woof 2012/12/16 23:43:02
    cut and paste king
    Theres nothing in the dictionaire that says that a conservative have to be. Republican

    con·serv·a·tive
    /kənˈsərvətiv/
    Adjective
    Holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in politics or religion.
    Noun
    A person who is averse to change and holds to traditional values and attitudes, typically in politics.
    Synonyms
    tory
    Hjkllfril
  • cut and... Woof 2012/12/16 23:47:08
    cut and paste king
    So much for this conservatives Hjkl Hjkkhggjiio
  • cut and... Woof 2012/12/16 23:51:33
    cut and paste king
    Another conservative. Being conservative
    Newt when asked how he could be unfaithful and give a speech on family values: "It doesn't matter what I do," he answered. "People need to hear what I have to say. There's no one else who can say what I can say. It doesn't matter what I live."
    Source: John H. Richardson. "Newt Gingrich: The Indispensable Republican." Esquire.com. 8/10/2010.
    AP: "In 1994, Gingrich responded to reports he'd had extramarital affairs while running a family-values campaign in 1978 by saying, "In the 1970s, things happened."
    Source: AP. "Wife's lawyer to question woman in Gingrich divorce case." Marysville Journal-Tribune. Marysville, Ohio. 8/13/1999. pg. 2. Ghuildsgh
  • Woof cut and... 2012/12/17 01:25:31 (edited)
    Woof
    So how about the left, the sweethearts.... Anthony Wiener... He's a poster child for blaming the right for texting a photo of himself. How about your big love Clinton scrogging a 22 year old intern and ruining her life. Please don't start with your bs. Your spamming and its Un welcome. Do it to your friends.
  • cut and... Woof 2012/12/17 01:30:43
    cut and paste king
    You disgusting pig , you were the one that brought up the subject of my conservatives believes i could not give a horses ass. If clinton was a mass murderer .
    The fact is that you bring up the subject of my. Conservatives believes like if you republicans owned the title
    So take your pathetic low life ass and get back tothe kitchen .
  • Woof cut and... 2012/12/17 01:37:10
    Woof
    Aren't you charming, spoken like a true racist.
  • Cat 2012/12/14 06:31:27
    Cat
    +1
    Exactly "We told you so!"
  • TidBit 2012/12/14 06:10:10
  • RJ~PWCM... TidBit 2012/12/14 21:16:32
  • stevmackey 2012/12/14 05:40:11
    stevmackey
    +1
    I was against it from the start. I downloaded a copy from the Government Printing Office.
  • cut and... stevmackey 2012/12/14 09:51:03
    cut and paste king
    +1
    Who created Obamacare? Free market conservatives!
    Filed Under: Robert Field
    POSTED: Friday, February 11, 2011, 7:00 AM
    You must purchase health insurance. The government says so. That is the flashpoint of health reform – the individual mandate forcing everyone to buy coverage whether they want to or not.

    Who concocted this idea? Was it wide-eyed liberals trying to replace the free market with a government-run system? Hardly.

    The individual mandate was the brainchild of the Heritage Foundation, one of the most conservative think tanks in the country. They saw it as part of the salvation of free market health care.

    You’d hardly know it today from the Foundation’s website. A recent visit to the homepage found news on the fight against Obamacare, with links to a page condemning health reform for its “mandates and federal control.” But do some searching on the site, and you’ll discover where the mandate idea actually came from.

    Or, you can follow this direct link to Heritage’s 1990 policy report, which explains why an individual mandate should be part of a free market approach to health reform. (The report can also be accessed here in html format.)

    Here is some of what it says. “Under the Heritage proposal, it would be illegal not to buy basic catastrophic insurance…” When you file your ta...











    Who created Obamacare? Free market conservatives!
    Filed Under: Robert Field
    POSTED: Friday, February 11, 2011, 7:00 AM
    You must purchase health insurance. The government says so. That is the flashpoint of health reform – the individual mandate forcing everyone to buy coverage whether they want to or not.

    Who concocted this idea? Was it wide-eyed liberals trying to replace the free market with a government-run system? Hardly.

    The individual mandate was the brainchild of the Heritage Foundation, one of the most conservative think tanks in the country. They saw it as part of the salvation of free market health care.

    You’d hardly know it today from the Foundation’s website. A recent visit to the homepage found news on the fight against Obamacare, with links to a page condemning health reform for its “mandates and federal control.” But do some searching on the site, and you’ll discover where the mandate idea actually came from.

    Or, you can follow this direct link to Heritage’s 1990 policy report, which explains why an individual mandate should be part of a free market approach to health reform. (The report can also be accessed here in html format.)

    Here is some of what it says. “Under the Heritage proposal, it would be illegal not to buy basic catastrophic insurance…” When you file your tax return, “If the proof of insurance forms were not attached, or did not indicate that the family was insured throughout the year, a financial penalty would be imposed.” (See page 13 of the report.)

    The mandate served the same purpose in Heritagecare in 1990 as it does in Obamacare today. Private insurance markets don’t work if the risk pool is too small. When too many healthy people opt out of coverage, insurance becomes unaffordable for everyone else because it is impossible to spread the cost. Then, the only alternative is a government plan.

    The mandate-based approach was so appealing to free market supporters in the 1990s that the Republicans proposed it as a law in 1993. Bob Dole, the Senate minority leader at the time, served as co-sponsor.

    This says a lot about health reform debates today. Contrary to almost everything you hear, they do not primarily revolve around ideology. To claim otherwise is to succumb to severe amnesia. Differences are almost entirely driven by partisan politics.

    It would be nice to return to more reasoned public discussions about how best to improve our health care system. Conservative and liberal ideas actually align more closely than you might think. Proposals in Congress for all-or-nothing repeal and threats to de-fund reform do nothing to advance this goal, to say the least.

    It would also be nice, in the interests of promoting truthful discourse, if those who invented the basis of Obama’s plan would put partisanship aside and acknowledge who they are.

    To check out more Check Up items go to www.philly.com/checkup
    (more)
  • RJ~PWCM... cut and... 2012/12/14 21:16:45
  • cut and... RJ~PWCM... 2012/12/14 21:21:04
    cut and paste king
    What ate gonna do about it punkass ,,,?
  • Woof cut and... 2012/12/16 23:35:32
    Woof
    You admit it's spam and you need to stop you progressive rat.
  • AL cut and... 2012/12/15 08:59:40
    AL
    +1
    Propaganda anyone?
  • cut and... AL 2012/12/15 09:23:29
  • Woof cut and... 2012/12/16 23:36:27
    Woof
    Said the progressive at the conservative rally.
  • AL cut and... 2012/12/17 02:01:57
    AL
    LOL! I would be even be a lot happier with Allen West in the White house instead, you old race pimp you!
  • Icanbean Arschloch 2012/12/14 04:50:23
    Icanbean  Arschloch
    +1
    Sooner or later, the lightbulb will go on for everyone!
  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/12/14 03:24:38
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    I never really expected it to lower cost only care.
  • jimmy "In God We Trust" 2012/12/14 03:03:37
    jimmy  "In God We Trust"
    +1
    I was never fooled by that lying MF. Obama care had one purpose to make health insurance companies a lot of money that lobbyist would use to help Obama get reelected.
  • RogerCoppock 2012/12/13 23:42:03
    RogerCoppock
    Typical RWNJ, generalizing a trend from the record of only a single event.
  • RJ~PWCM... RogerCo... 2012/12/14 21:18:26
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    Anyone who says premiums are going down under 0bamacare is either:


    1. A naive, gullible simpleton.

    2. An uninformed moron.

    3. An effing liar.

    4. All of the above.
  • realist 2012/12/13 22:59:24
    realist
    +3
    Obamacare sucks.
  • Cn2012 2012/12/13 22:11:09
    Cn2012
    +2
    This is a disaster.
  • Spy Master 2012/12/13 21:26:58
    Spy Master
    +4
    Yeah; California BCross & BShield is raising premiums 20%..where's the saving BOZO; where??
  • tom Savage 2012/12/13 21:04:13
    tom Savage
    Facts are funny things. They are a buzz kill for a really good mad. Nevertheless, they are facts. Take this one for instance:


    "In 2010, the CBO estimated that Obamacare would actually reduce the deficit by $124 billion over 10 years"
  • sbtbill tom Savage 2012/12/13 22:48:42
    sbtbill
    +2
    An estimate is not a fact.

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