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Aetna cuts 600,000 lives for profit

ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2009/12/07 22:24:20
By: Jason Rosenbaum Friday December 4, 2009 1:00 pm


Aetna announced that it will deliberately cut 600,000 people from its insurance rolls to raise its profits next year:

In a third-quarter earnings conference call in late October, officials at Aetna announced that in an effort to improve on a less-than-anticipated profit margin in 2009, they would be raising prices on their consumers in 2010. The insurance giant predicted that the company would subsequently lose between 300,000 and 350,000 members next year from its national account as well as another 300,000 from smaller group accounts.



Aetna’s decision to downsize the number of clients in favor of higher premiums is, as one industry analyst told American Medical News, a "pretty candid" admission. It also reflects the major concerns offered by health care reform proponents and supporters of a public option for insurance coverage, who insist that the private health insurance industry is too consumed with the bottom line. A government-run plan would operate solely off its members’ premiums.

Aetna is saying they want to make more money on each person they insure to please Wall Street, so they are raising prices. It doesn’t matter to them if this action causes them to lose some less profitable customers, customers that actually use their health care benefits. In fact, they welcome it. They are more than happy to let these people be priced out of the market, go uninsured, go bankrupt, or lose their lives. These people are not bringing in enough money for Aetna, so Aetna would rather not have them as a customer.

Aetna is following the insurance company playbook as articulated last year by Wellpoint CEO Angela Braly when she said, "We will not sacrifice profitability for membership." In other words, the insurance companies won’t sell health coverage to more people if it means they will make less money on each person.

They don’t care about coverage, they just care about profits. This is exactly why we must have a public health insurance option.

Health reform without a public option will not not work. The insurance industry playbook would still be on the table, and they would still find ways to cut people for more profit. Even with laws against insurance companies denying care, they would still find ways to do it.

The CBO confirms this with their analysis. Even with laws making it illegal for insurance companies to deny care, the CBO found that while the public option would keep down insurance premiums overall, it would attract less-profitable customers that the insurance companies don’t want and would refuse to insure.

There is no substitute for a public health insurance option that’s national and available everywhere on day one – no triggers. And indeed, the bill on the table in the Senate gets us there.

To those moderates who are holding out, don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. There may be some things in the Senate bill you don’t agree with, but that’s no reason to deny this country the reform it needs and wants. It’s time to allow this bill to come up for a fair, majority vote in the Senate.

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  • sugarbuzz 2009/12/08 00:31:58
    sugarbuzz
    +11
    Aetna nearly killed me. I was taken to the emergency room with a bleeding ulcer caused by their second-guessing the Dr.'s prescription and insisting THEIR recommendation was adequate. Because of a chronic blood disease I have, they failed to take it into consideration and I was about a half an hour away from just slipping away from blood loss. I am still fighting them to pay the remainder of charges for that hospital stay too, and when released they refused to fill an RX from the hospital to maintain my recovery. So there you go....what a wonderful and compassionate example of big business and insurance philosophies Profit over EVERYTHING!

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  • pH~ Xisi~aet 2009/12/09 20:34:27
  • ggaitherii 2009/12/09 19:13:52
    ggaitherii
    +3
    Can anyone say......DEATH PANEL!!!!
  • Conservative in California 2009/12/08 21:07:15 (edited)
    Conservative in California
    +2
    Just think, if it was the government, they would raise 600,000 new jobs, raise their salaries and benefits above what the private sector makes, unionize the jobs, and wonder why the debt is $12 trillion.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ Conserv... 2009/12/08 21:24:37
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    +3
    $11 trillion came from Bush
  • Conserv... ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2009/12/08 21:31:02
    Conservative in California
    +2
    You don't know your facts at all. Try half that. But, that almost covers 80% of what Obama's contribution to the debt will be--$24.5 trillion by 2019, (and that's without accounting for socialized healthcare).
  • patt Conserv... 2009/12/13 14:02:10
    patt
    +1
    Well, if you halve Bush's contribution to the national debt, you do as he did: not include the cost of war.
  • gibyob 2009/12/08 19:31:57
    gibyob
    There is more to this than meets the eye, With several of the banking institutions merging they are dropping some and picking up others, the numbers of insured is fluid and changes almost on a daily basis. This would require a greater deal of research to determine the percentage of insured dropped at any given time. Not saying this is right just saying it is legal under the current law.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ gibyob 2009/12/08 19:40:22
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    +1
    I KNOW it's legal under the law, and that to me is criminal. I hope this type of thing won't be legal when (and if) health care reform passes.
  • gibyob ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2009/12/08 19:46:20
    gibyob
    +2
    I agree, it is morally repulsive, and needs to be changed.
  • zcberry 2009/12/08 18:49:24
    zcberry
    +1
    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that is f--k up!!!!!!!!!!! Now that is why I say we need to past a health care reform.
  • Bren 2009/12/08 17:39:20
    Bren
    +2
    The capitalists are at it again, telling us to just bend over and take our medicine! This is absolutely the most abhorent thing I have ever seen happen to Americans that are trying their best to take care of their families. AND, we all know that the 600,0000 being cut are the ones that use the services available to them, even if it's just for an annual check up, well baby check ups etc.

    SINGLE PAYER IS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE OPTION OUT THERE. We have to stop the screw job we are getting from all directions. Big insurance, big pharma the list goes on and on.

    Those of you that think a "public option" is wrong because you already have your family covered so you don't want health care reform, well I hope YOU are one of the first that AETNA bends over. Enjoy the shaft cause it's comin!
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ Bren 2009/12/08 17:52:19
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    +1
    I couldn't agree with you more. So many problems would be solved if we had a single-payer health care system. The current non-public public option is a windfall to insurance companies (It has been reported that the insurance companies were "thrilled" to hear about the bill being considered. They are said to be "dancing in the aisles" back-slapping each other about how much money they're going to be making. It is criminal. If you haven't written you Senators (if Democratic) or Reid, Weiner, Rockefeller, Sanders, I would suggest you do. You get the addresses by googling "contact sen. reid" and so on. I've gotten to the point where I hate all private insurance companies.
  • Conserv... Bren 2009/12/08 21:33:01
    Conservative in California
    +2
    single payer is an efficient killer of seniors and the very sick...just ask the British...oh wait, the government denied them care and they're dead now.
  • Cheri Conserv... 2009/12/09 02:58:36
    Cheri
    What do you know about the British system? Doesn't sound like you know much.
  • oldcavpilot 2009/12/08 15:07:35
    oldcavpilot
    +3
    Nah, we don't need health care reform; just let the insurance companies keep doing what they're doing. They must be immensely satisfied; just think what it would feel like if you could 'screw' that many people.

    End their Anti-Trust exemptions.
  • WankerBait 2009/12/08 15:03:54
    WankerBait
    +4
    The US free market at work! Health care and capitalism are not conducive to good health - DUH!
  • Conserv... WankerBait 2009/12/08 21:33:44
    Conservative in California
    +2
    and government deciding who dies so the collective can benefit is conducive to good health?
  • unclepat Conserv... 2009/12/08 22:27:11
    unclepat
    +1
    So I guess it's actually preferable that the insurance company decides who dies right?
    What're they more efficient at this or something??
  • WankerBait Conserv... 2009/12/09 18:03:40
    WankerBait
    No more so than ther market.
  • patt 2009/12/08 14:12:19
    patt
    +5
    This is an assault in humanity. The naysayers are alarmed that the gov might make decisions that affect life and death "maybe, sometime in the future", but the insurance companies are doing it right now, today. What does it take for people to understand what is being done to them?
  • Bren patt 2009/12/08 17:41:26
    Bren
    +1
    They really must like being screwed............that's my only guess.
  • NarcolepticGoat 2009/12/08 12:31:11
    NarcolepticGoat
    +6
    They did this during open season? AND while health care reform is being debated in congress?

    Uh... wow.
  • Bren Narcole... 2009/12/08 17:44:13
    Bren
    +1
    They have no quams either! A few words come to mind..COLD, HEARTLESS BA$TARDS.
    How do they look at themselves in the mirror, is what I want to know?
  • unclepat 2009/12/08 09:51:54
    unclepat
    +6
    And these are the same people being defended by the "townhallers". lol.
    Seriously though, I wonder of that 600,000, how many of them were of the Teaba66ing variety. You just know that a few of those people at least protested AGAINST healthcare reform of any kind. And now that they scramble to make up the slack in insurance, I wonder what their feelings are now if the subject of being for or against universal healthcare comes up on SH.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ unclepat 2009/12/08 15:46:06
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    +1
    I didn't look at it from that perspective. I certainly hope they caught a lot of teabaggers in their dump net.
  • Conserv... ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2009/12/08 21:34:32
    Conservative in California
    +2
    ...more insults from angry and desperate liberals...nothing new
  • wombat 2009/12/08 05:36:54
    wombat
    +3
    Insurance companys are blood suckers someone need to watch their fingers.
  • EdHunter 2009/12/08 03:50:30
    EdHunter
    +2
    The public option is not the answer, I'm afraid. It's an ineffective attempt at providing a shortcut solution. The effective solutions are already being implemented in every other advanced democracy on the planet. And there are several things they ALL have in common:

    -every citizen is required to carry insurance (no exceptions)
    -open market access to every available plan and portability
    -consumers to may change plans w/o an increase in premium
    -health care industry is a non-profit industry
    -regulations regarding administrative costs

    IMO, the compromise currently being discussed is a better option than the public option...

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/...
  • Cheri EdHunter 2009/12/08 07:10:11
    Cheri
    +6
    For me single payer is the only way to go. Insurance companies are middlemen who provided little service while they skim all the fat off the top. And no one can tell me they
    are not motivated by greed. I buried a child due to those evils.
  • unclepat Cheri 2009/12/08 09:53:43
    unclepat
    +1
    You have my deepest condolences.
  • Bren unclepat 2009/12/08 17:47:26
    Bren
    +1
    I second that emotion. That has got to be the worst thing for any parent.
  • Cheri Bren 2009/12/08 23:05:43
    Cheri
    It is Bren. It defines you in permanent ways and is incomprehensible even when you experiece it.
  • Cheri unclepat 2009/12/08 23:04:30
    Cheri
    +1
    Thank You.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ Cheri 2009/12/08 15:52:06
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    My sentiments exactly. See post to EdHunter
  • Conserv... Cheri 2009/12/08 21:57:09
    Conservative in California
    +2
    the evils you speak of are currently illegal, but when the government takes over healthcare, the evils will no longer be illegal. It will become the law of the land to legally deny many thousands of Americans yearly much needed healthcare thus killing them off because they are too old or too sick to be paid for. Collectivism brought up communism in the Soviet Union. Capitalism has brought us the highest standard of living in the world, and the greatest healthcare system that thousands each year come to the United States for, but nobody leaves the U.S. for other countries for.
  • EdHunter Conserv... 2009/12/08 23:17:00
    EdHunter
    There are plenty of other options outside of the "Socialized Medicine" model to which you're referring. Read this article, if you're really interested in models which are NOT socialized and are working better for less than ours:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com...
  • Cheri Conserv... 2009/12/08 23:29:41
    Cheri
    Sir if these evils are illegal then please tell me why are they daily being repeated across this country? Are conservatives fighting against big pharma and Aetna
    to end these evils? It is the big lie that a robust public option will be the cause of denying people healthcare. They already do it on a huge scale. And if it is so illegal where is the protection? Capitalism has brought SOME a high standard of living. I am curious what you say to the rest of America?
  • ThinkAb... Conserv... 2009/12/09 05:26:16
    ThinkAboutIt!
    +1
    Thank You! You seem to be the only one on this post that knows what he is talking about. Too bad these people won't listen. They won't find out they have been buffaloed till it's too late. We have to keep trying to help them see the light for all our sakes.
  • EdHunter Cheri 2009/12/08 23:01:12
    EdHunter
    +1
    I'm sorry for your loss, Cheri...and I can understand the argument for a single payer system.

    But, there are plenty of developed democracies that spend less and yield better health outcomes than the US, and have a completely privatized system (i.e. Germany, Netherlands, Australia, Japan, to name a few). In my view, this would be an easier model to transition to from our current system.
  • Cheri EdHunter 2009/12/08 23:25:23 (edited)
    Cheri
    +1
    Thank You.

    Your right Ed. I know this for fact having researched for example Germany and the Netherlands. But it would never be an easy transition because the status quo with
    its big pockets will boycott it in any way possible.

    I get attacked by those who oppose single payer as being a commie liberal who is
    not intelligent, who is unAmerican in opposing the status quo. When I say that we do NOT have the best health care system in the world all kinds of assumptions are made. I must hate doctors. None of that is truth.

    The truth is that the doctors are not the enemy. We have some of the greatest minds in medicine. We have the capability and the technology that is envied. But we have the worst delivery system in the world. Even doctors will validate that.

    Just as a comparison and one example. Both Germany and the USA have a organ
    transplant program. Now I realize the enormity of some dieing so others can live.
    That carries heavy weight for sure. But in Germany an individual needing a transplant is put on to the respective list early on, therefore if they are fortunate to get a donar organ they have higher survival rates and longevity because they
    were not waiting so long that other organs were damaged in process of the wait,
    thereby minimizing survival. If anyone thi...


    Thank You.

    Your right Ed. I know this for fact having researched for example Germany and the Netherlands. But it would never be an easy transition because the status quo with
    its big pockets will boycott it in any way possible.

    I get attacked by those who oppose single payer as being a commie liberal who is
    not intelligent, who is unAmerican in opposing the status quo. When I say that we do NOT have the best health care system in the world all kinds of assumptions are made. I must hate doctors. None of that is truth.

    The truth is that the doctors are not the enemy. We have some of the greatest minds in medicine. We have the capability and the technology that is envied. But we have the worst delivery system in the world. Even doctors will validate that.

    Just as a comparison and one example. Both Germany and the USA have a organ
    transplant program. Now I realize the enormity of some dieing so others can live.
    That carries heavy weight for sure. But in Germany an individual needing a transplant is put on to the respective list early on, therefore if they are fortunate to get a donar organ they have higher survival rates and longevity because they
    were not waiting so long that other organs were damaged in process of the wait,
    thereby minimizing survival. If anyone thinks for one instant that these procedures of wait and stall are not a part of the insurane agencies tactics they are very mistaken. In general terms in Germany you wait about 5 years, in the USA 10 years. It isn't rocket science to realize the cost of those added 5 years.
    In America transplant recipients live about 5 to 7 years. In Germany those recipients live 10 -20 years.

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