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Ad Criticizing Mosque Near Ground Zero Too Controversial?

News 2010/07/16 20:00:00
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Television stations are rejecting a controversial ad criticizing the building of a mosque near New York City's Ground Zero.

NBC and CBS have declined to air the ad, which is below, with the vague reason that it is too vague, according to the Hollywood Reporter. The ad, according to a spokeswoman, "ambiguously defines 'they' as referenced in the spot makes it unclear as to whether the reference is to terrorists or to the Islamic religious organization that is sponsoring the building of the mosque." The ad by the National Republican Trust PAC, says building the mosque there would be insulting the victims of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

"To celebrate that murder of 3,000 Americans, they want to build a monstrous 13-story mosque at Ground Zero," says the narrator during the ad, while images of a destroyed World Trade Center are displayed. "This ground is sacred, where we weep, they rejoice … that mosque is a monument to their victory."



Is this ad too controversial for television stations to air?

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  • Ron–Born from Above 2010/07/16 22:30:31
    No, people need to stand up for what they believe.
    Ron–Born from Above
    +14
    They can build the Mosque, only when they allow us to build a !8 story Christian Study Center in Mecca.

    people build mosque build 8 story christian study center mecca

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  • Zach055 2010/08/16 04:37:03 (edited)
  • Files 2010/07/26 13:13:54
    Yes, the ad is a bit much for television.
    Files
    Hah, they've got a clip from the Dirty Kuffar music video in there talk about a blast from the past.

    Oh also the ad is terrible and xenophobic. I don't actually think it's 'a bit much for television' though, it's just super dumb and awful.
  • Epistemically Justified -- BN7 2010/07/20 17:35:41
    No, people need to stand up for what they believe.
    Epistemically Justified -- BN7
    +1
    I think that despite the misinformation in the ad, it ought to air.

    Similarly, I think that a Mosque two blocks away from ground zero is fine. It's a bold-faced lie to claim that they want to build ON ground zero. Pathetic.
  • wombat 2010/07/20 14:12:02
    No, people need to stand up for what they believe.
    wombat
    However its not on GZ its 3 blocks away from it.
  • sugarbuzz 2010/07/19 20:58:22
    No, people need to stand up for what they believe.
    sugarbuzz
    This is where people have problems with our constitutional rights, and freedom of speech is one of them. There is an OFF button on the T.V., use it..
  • MardenaCrimaldi 2010/07/19 17:53:54
    No, people need to stand up for what they believe.
    MardenaCrimaldi
    +2
    As a FREE nation we can not keep them from building their temples (mosques). However we do, and should, have the right to decide where they can build. Ground zero is not an option. I know we have churches have Iraq. I also know that they would neverf allow us to build them or even worship our God anywhere near a government site that we destroyed.
  • hyrulien 2010/07/19 14:43:57
    No, people need to stand up for what they believe.
    hyrulien
    +1
    List of Christian Churches in Baghdad - Iraq

    Chaldean Church (Catholic denomination):
    1. "Pregnant without Sin" (in reference to Virgin Mary), built in 1921 - Camp Gelani.
    2. Mar Aphram, built in 1940s - Shalcheya.
    3. Mar Yousif, built in 1956 - Eastern Karada.
    4. Mar Youhanan the Baptist, built in 1960 - alDura.
    5. Holy Family, built in 1960 - Aurfaleya (Betaween)
    6. The Virgin- Prayer's Lord (Sultana alWardeya), built in 1960 - Karada Khareg.
    7. Holy Heart of Jesus, built in 1964 - Hay alWehda.
    8. Mar Eliya of Heyra, built in 1964 - Hay alAmeen.
    9. Mar Yousif- Protector of the Workers, built in 1965 - Hay alYarmook
    10. Mar Yaqoub- Bishop of Nisibin, built in 1965 - alDura
    11. The passing of the Virgin, built in 1966 - alMansour
    12. Mar Toma the Disciple, built in 1966 - Nereya and Gayara
    13. Mother of Continuous Help, built in 1966 - Hay anNedhal and alSadoon
    14. The Virgin- Protector of Crops, built in 1968 - alBayya'
    15. Mar Gewergis, built in 1969 - Hay Sumer/New Baghdad
    16. Virgin Mary, built in 1971 - Palestine Street
    17. Martyr Mar Baythoon, built in 1978 - Baladeyat/7-April
    18. Holy Trinity, built in 1978 - Habebeya/7-April
    19. Mar Marey, built in 1980 - Hay Beydha/alBanook
    20. The Disciples Mar Putros and Mar Polos, built in 1986 - alDura
    21. Co...










































    List of Christian Churches in Baghdad - Iraq

    Chaldean Church (Catholic denomination):
    1. "Pregnant without Sin" (in reference to Virgin Mary), built in 1921 - Camp Gelani.
    2. Mar Aphram, built in 1940s - Shalcheya.
    3. Mar Yousif, built in 1956 - Eastern Karada.
    4. Mar Youhanan the Baptist, built in 1960 - alDura.
    5. Holy Family, built in 1960 - Aurfaleya (Betaween)
    6. The Virgin- Prayer's Lord (Sultana alWardeya), built in 1960 - Karada Khareg.
    7. Holy Heart of Jesus, built in 1964 - Hay alWehda.
    8. Mar Eliya of Heyra, built in 1964 - Hay alAmeen.
    9. Mar Yousif- Protector of the Workers, built in 1965 - Hay alYarmook
    10. Mar Yaqoub- Bishop of Nisibin, built in 1965 - alDura
    11. The passing of the Virgin, built in 1966 - alMansour
    12. Mar Toma the Disciple, built in 1966 - Nereya and Gayara
    13. Mother of Continuous Help, built in 1966 - Hay anNedhal and alSadoon
    14. The Virgin- Protector of Crops, built in 1968 - alBayya'
    15. Mar Gewergis, built in 1969 - Hay Sumer/New Baghdad
    16. Virgin Mary, built in 1971 - Palestine Street
    17. Martyr Mar Baythoon, built in 1978 - Baladeyat/7-April
    18. Holy Trinity, built in 1978 - Habebeya/7-April
    19. Mar Marey, built in 1980 - Hay Beydha/alBanook
    20. The Disciples Mar Putros and Mar Polos, built in 1986 - alDura
    21. Congratulating the Virgin, built in 1989 - Hay alMuthana/Suq alThelatha
    22. The Rising, built in 1994 - Hay alMualemeen/alMashtal
    23. Mar Polos- The Disciple, built ??, al-Zafaraneya

    Assyrian (include Assyrian, Assyrian Evangelical, and Old Assyrian):
    1. Virgin Mary (Mar Kura), built in 1928 -Karada Maryem
    2. Mar Qaradagh, built in 1946 - Camp Gelani
    3. Evangelical Assyrian, built ??, Sahat alTayaran
    4. Mar Gewergis, built in 1961 - alDura
    5. Mar Odishu Nokhreta, built in 1972 - Elwiya
    6. Virgin Mary, built in 1970 - Neyreya and alGayara
    7. Mar Marey, built in 1985 - alAmeen
    8. Mar Zaya, built in ?? - alDura
    9. Virgin Mary (Old Assyrian Church), built in 1988 - Hay alReyadh

    Syriac (include Orthodox and Catholic):

    1. The Disciples Mar Putros and Mar Polos (Orthodox), built in 1964 - Industerial Street
    2. Mar Yousif (Catholic), built in 1965 - alMansour
    3. Lady of Salvation (Catholic), built in 1968 - Eastern Karada
    4. Mar Maty (Orthodox), built in 1981 - Hay Sumer/Ghadeer
    5. Mar Toma (Orthodox), built in 1978 - alMansour/Hay alMuhandeseen
    6. Mar Behnam (Catholic), built in 1982 - Hay Sumer/alQanat
    7. Mar Behnam (Orthodox), built in ?? - Hay alMechanic/alDura

    Armenian (include Catholic and Orthodox) :
    1. Holy Heart of Jesus (Catholic), built in 1938 - Eastern Karada
    2. St. Gregor the Illluminant (Orthodox), built in 1956 - Sahat alTayran
    3. St. Garabeet (Orthodox), built in 1973 - Hay alReyadh

    Melkite, known commonly as "Room" (include Orthodox, Catholic and Latin):
    1. Mar Anderaous (Orthodox), built in 1940's - Camp Gelani
    2. Room Catholic, built in 1962 - Karada Dakhel
    3. St. Jerjis (Orthodox), built in 1976 - Hay alReyadh
    4. Cathedral of St. Joseph (Latin), built in 1965 - Hay alWehda/Elwiya

    Protestant:
    1. Adventest Church, built in 1958 - alNedhal Street

    Evangelical:
    1. National Evangelical, built in 1954 - Hay alNedhal


    http://www.chaldeansonline.or...
    (more)
  • rasputan hyrulien 2010/07/19 17:04:16
    rasputan
    They might have a lot of empty seats.

    According to Bishop Abouna, around 75 per cent of Christians in Baghdad had fled the Iraqi capital to escape the daily chaos and outbreaks of sectarian violence
  • hyrulien rasputan 2010/07/19 18:03:24
    hyrulien
    True but at the same instance what kind of message are we expressing by preventing there people from practicing worship here. Seems to me as if an underlining fear has people by the common since. If they enlisted similar rules to the Christian church of being an open place for people to enter as they please, none would have to worry about the mosques creating terrorist as some people put it. I personally believe people can be evil despite which religion they follow.
  • rasputan hyrulien 2010/07/19 19:34:26 (edited)
    rasputan
    I do not wish to advocate unjust intolerance, or put blinders on when it is espoused by others.
    That said, I don't think preventing anyone from practicing their worship is the issue. At least not for most, or the Building of the Mosque. The location is what many feel is inapppropiate. Considering what occurred there, I would think, That should be understandable, especially to the Muslims. That they do not, of itself. Seems to illustrate their extreme disrespect for others, and for what occurred there.
  • hyrulien rasputan 2010/07/22 17:49:12
    hyrulien
    You do have a valid point.

    I suggest they move the Mosque to prevent unneeded controversy. And I personally am against Tax payers to pay for any forms of religion let alone a Mosque or a church.

    But at the same instance the Mosque is not being built directly where the twin towers stood. It is actually being built 2 blocks down the street. My original thoughts were that is was being built where the twin towers once stood. So I would have to say that you cannot equally force individuals to leave the city to have a place of worship if they are content on donating and constructing the building that is. Now I am aware that the Christian and catholic faith do receive coverage from tax payers from time to time but I do not agree with that at all. Unless they are receiving donations outside of the government from people who pay their taxes and choose to donate.
  • rasputan hyrulien 2010/07/22 20:04:57
    rasputan
    I am not aware of any Church ever receiving Tax payer funding.
  • hyrulien rasputan 2010/07/22 20:12:07
  • rasputan hyrulien 2010/07/22 20:25:56 (edited)
    rasputan
    I meant the building of Churches, But I don't agree with funding these outreach programs either, Whether they are called faith
    based, or in Obama's (no faith) based programs.

    http://usliberals.about.com/o...
  • hyrulien rasputan 2010/07/26 19:58:58
    hyrulien
    Interesting.

    Seems we need to keep an eye out for these religious groups using underlying movements to gather resources for their cause.
  • rasputan hyrulien 2010/07/26 20:10:09 (edited)
    rasputan
    Keeping eye on the one's working with disabled children and such, May not be as important as keeping a eye on the non-religious ones like ACORN, under it's multitude of new names. that are only working to keep the left in power, through voter fraud.
    At the Tax Payers expense.
  • hyrulien rasputan 2010/07/26 20:17:34
    hyrulien
    Interesting so you believe ACORN are the masterminds behind Obama's presidency?

    That is absurd.

    here are more conspiracy theories if you get bored on that one

    http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
  • rasputan hyrulien 2010/07/26 20:26:53
    rasputan
    Hardly, masterminds of anything, just another corrupt tool of the Democrats. Funded at by the American Tax Payer.
  • hyrulien rasputan 2010/07/28 14:55:26
    hyrulien
    In light of Senator Larry Craig’s conviction and Senator Vitter’s sexual forays with prostitutes, we should cut off public money going to Republican Senators.
  • rasputan hyrulien 2010/07/28 21:20:17
    rasputan
    Make it all corrupt perverted Senators .
  • Billyk75 2010/07/19 14:10:08
    No, people need to stand up for what they believe.
    Billyk75
    +1
    It's alright to build a mosque but at ground zero? What religion did these suicidal murderers claim to be?
  • luigi1-... Billyk75 2010/07/23 09:48:03 (edited)
    luigi1- in god we trust
    +1
    The separation of church & state rule only applies to some of the people some of the time or when it's to their advantage for political reasons. In this case, exceptions are made.

    Some examples, Obama hosted three Islamic Prayer meeting at White House but cancelled the National Day of Prayer. He also renamed the White House Chrismas Tree, the Holiday Tree so not to offend Muslims.
  • Billyk75 luigi1-... 2010/07/23 14:51:13
    Billyk75
    Talk about hypocracy and double standards.
  • luked luigi1-... 2010/08/16 02:08:41
    luked
    very true and disturbing.
  • spike 2010/07/19 07:55:19
    No, people need to stand up for what they believe.
    spike
    i think it's the 'audacity of jihad' line that has the networks squirming; they fear offending their 0bamessiah people audacity jihad line networks squirming fear offending 0bamessiah people audacity jihad line networks squirming fear offending 0bamessiah
  • Spider20 2010/07/19 06:06:56
    No, people need to stand up for what they believe.
    Spider20
    +2
    All I know is I don't want a mosque there.....period!
  • ImageBandit ~ American Patriot 2010/07/19 04:16:05
    No, people need to stand up for what they believe.
    ImageBandit ~ American Patriot
    it is a bit vague - our muslim president should have been named as well
  • gumybare69 2010/07/19 00:46:51
    Yes, the ad is a bit much for television.
    gumybare69
    +3
    Using fear to get what you want is the act of a coward.
  • spike gumybare69 2010/07/19 07:57:03 (edited)
    spike
    +1
    that describes the people who attacked us on 9/11 and their supporters and apologists PERFECTLY-cowards
  • Files spike 2010/07/26 13:16:05
  • spike Files 2010/07/26 23:40:38
    spike
    don't confuse bravery with insanity
  • Files spike 2010/07/27 03:44:50
    Files
    Without knowing the psyche profiles of all the men involved I wouldn't really be prepared to say whether they're more or less crazy than anyone who's ever sacrificed their lives for something they believed in.

    I mean, are they more crazy than regular soldiers in a war who charge a machine gun nest, knowing that they'll probably die but doing it?
  • spike Files 2010/07/27 07:43:20
    spike
    let's see...they thought that by killing a lot of innocent people, they would be rewarded by their Creator with 72 virgins or some such nonsense?
    what those scum did was NOT a noble sacrifice, it was mass murder-nothing more, nothing less
  • Files spike 2010/07/27 08:58:50
    Files
    Bravery is a morally neutral value - you can be perfectly brave in the service of unpleasant ideals.
  • spike Files 2010/07/28 00:30:57
    spike
    i realize that 'moral relativism' is trendy, and probably 'diverse', 'socially just', 'carbon neutral' and whatever happens to be the 'progressive' buzzword du jour, but there is a difference between 'unpleasant ideals' and 'evil'
  • Files spike 2010/07/28 11:16:31
    Files
    Okay, listen, I'm not even talking about politics here - I'm simply saying that being willing to die for a cause is brave, no matter what the cause is.

    Is that really what you're disagreeing with?
  • spike Files 2010/07/28 23:51:15
    spike
    what i'm disagreeing with is the notion that there's any kind of similarity between a soldier risking his life fighting an armed enemy and murdering thousands of cilvilians
  • Files spike 2010/07/29 00:49:20
    Files
    Sure there is - they (assuming you are talking about the suicide bombers here) are both willing to die for a cause, for something they feel strongly about. That's the similarity. I don't see how you can get around the fact that self-sacrifice is pretty brave, no matter what the reason for it is.
  • spike Files 2010/07/29 00:54:12
    spike
    funny how you keep pointedly avoiding mentioning the thousands of cold-blooded murders that were THE purpose of the 9/11 bombers and their 'self-sacrifice'...if 'dying for the cause' was the point, they each could have simply blown themselves up without deliberately murdering so many people...suicide WASN'T the point; homicide WAS
  • Files spike 2010/07/29 00:58:26
    Files
    Okay, and? Their purpose was to make a statement through the inflicting of death on the people they viewed as enemies, and they died to do so. If you somehow think I believe that makes their actions acceptable or in any way less terrible you are mistaken - but I cannot believe that the men who carried out the attacks were not brave.
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