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ACLU Sues School for Accessing Student's Facebook: Whose Side Are You On?

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The American Civil Liberties Union is suing the Minnewaska Area School District in Minnesota for allegedly forcing a 12-year-old student to give them her Facebook login information after the student was accused of engaging in a sexual conversation with another young student over Facebook. According to Mashable, a school administrator and a local police deputy searched the girl's online chat record before notifying her parents. They didn't find anything.

The issue is complicated by the fact that the girl is not technically old enough to have a Facebook account, but the ACLU is accusing the administrator and the deputy of violating the girl's First and Fourth Amendment rights (freedom of speech and freedom from unreasonable search). An ACLU director issued a statment saying, "Students do not shed their First Amendment rights at the school house gate." Who do you think is in the right: the school or ACLU?


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  • jgh57 2012/03/29 00:14:42
    ACLU
    jgh57
    +14
    I'm so glad my kids are out of school now. I would have instructed my kids to cal me anytime they were in trouble in the office. Schools have gone crazy and try to monitor and interfere in things that are none of their business. The kids need to have an adult there who is representing them, especially if the police are involved.

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  • Rebecca 2012/03/29 23:44:22
    The school
    Rebecca
    I'm not on either side. Facebook is a social site. If you are going to put it out there expect to be accessed. C'mon.
  • Melizmatic Rebecca 2012/03/29 23:49:13
    Melizmatic
    +6
    There's a BIG difference between what the public can see on a person's page, and what that member can see when they log in.

    This is a violation of civil rights, and if this alleged conversation that was the cause didnt happen during school hours using one of their PC's that school is in deep doo-doo.
  • Rebecca Melizmatic 2012/03/30 09:20:49
    Rebecca
    +1
    When looked at from that perspective, I'd have to agree with you. It is a violation of civil rights. But, anything you put out on the internet can be accessed one way or another, legal or not. One HAS to be careful what they say if they don't want it to come back to haunt them. It's not right, it's not fair, but that's the way it sometimes turns out.
  • Melizmatic Rebecca 2012/03/30 15:27:31
    Melizmatic
    +1
    Allegedly, the kid didn't even do what she was accused of.

    Again, its not the school's place to be concerned about whether she had a 'sexual conversation' even though she is under age, and shouldn't have even had a FB account in the first place; its her parent's.

    They are royally screwed.
  • Rebecca Melizmatic 2012/03/31 11:20:08
    Rebecca
    +1
    I'm willing to bet the kids parents didn't even know she had a Facebook account. Been thinking about this, and no, the school had no right to pursue this. Perhaps a phone call to the parents should have been made instead of the action taken. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
  • oldlady 2012/03/29 23:33:59
    ACLU
    oldlady
    +4
    Big Brother needs to butt out!
  • Winghunter 2012/03/29 23:02:32 (edited)
    The school
    Winghunter
    The PARENTS are to be informed by the school and then THEY and only THEY make the decision of how to proceed on their own child's behalf.


    The ACLU’s Untold Stalinist History http://bit.ly/eNjkjr


    Did you know the ACLU’s Legacy? http://bit.ly/9Xhf7I


    John L. McKnight – Referred to as Obama's "community organizer mentor," McKnight taught Barack about community organizing while they were both working with the Gamaliel Foundation – a Saul Alinsky production. John McKnight is also a former ACLU director and sits on the board of the National People's Action (NPA), another leftist community organizing group. He teaches at Northwestern University and he wrote a letter of recommendation to Harvard for Obama.

    The ACLU: America's Taliban
    "Almost every day I receive several newsletters from Christian, humanitarian, charitable or conservative political groups protesting the active, aggressive and increasingly unconstitutional opposition tactics – and sometimes outright persecution – by the ironically named "American Civil Liberties Union."..."
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?...
  • JohnT 2012/03/29 22:00:45
    ACLU
    JohnT
    +1
    This is not as easy as it appears. There are plenty of sexual predators out there, and if this was a school computer at school it is a wobbler. On the surface I side with ACLU but need more info to make a intelligent factual opinion.
  • AliasOther 2012/03/29 21:55:49
    ACLU
    AliasOther
    +3
    social media pages are started at home. IN PRIVACY.

    Access for school or business is limited to things that were produced with their equipment or materials. That has been the law since the 60's.

    If a school can breach this privacy then your employer has access to not only your social media but they will have access to interview your friends, look through your letters, read your journal, scan your home computer, and anything else they want. They will even have access to private photos of you and your spouse, including that home porno you made.

    So... GO ACLU.....WIN!!!!!
  • ART 2012/03/29 21:36:57
    The school
    ART
    +2
    I NEVER APPROVE OF ANYTHING THE AMERICAN COMMUNIST LIBERTIES UNION SAYS.
  • dallas ART 2012/03/29 21:50:23 (edited)
  • Bibliop... dallas 2012/03/29 22:18:59
    Bibliophilic
    +2
    Is that his website?
  • dallas Bibliop... 2012/03/29 23:07:14 (edited)
  • Bibliop... dallas 2012/03/30 02:45:41
    Bibliophilic
    Why are you posting it everywhere?
  • dallas Bibliop... 2012/03/30 12:14:57
  • Tennessean ART 2012/03/30 15:53:12
    Tennessean
    I also do not agree with many of the things the ACLU does, but in this case they are correct, and the school has no business involving themselves in a students private affairs.
  • t.eliot... ART 2012/03/30 16:59:53
    t.eliot, topbard
    Too bad ...for you.
  • Sterling 2012/03/29 20:29:27
    The school
    Sterling
    +1
    I will never be on ACLU's side. They are a ridiculous organization.
  • antitea... Sterling 2012/03/29 21:13:04
    antiteaparty
    +9
    Yes I agree, who needs them fighting for your rights! Not you untill of course something happens to you and you need them....
  • Sterling antitea... 2012/03/29 21:23:56
    Sterling
    +2
    I would never ask for ACLU's support, of course then again I don't value other people's freedom's any less than I value my own, and me and my family can speak on our own behalf. I would never bring in a national organization on a small local issue. What a joke, and believe me, my school has done things just as bad as what this school did. We solved those problems in-house. Didn't need to drop a frivolous law suit.
  • antitea... Sterling 2012/03/29 21:39:13
    antiteaparty
    +6
    Frist of all you can never say never and if the Government ever screws you bad enough I gaurentee you will run to them... Here's the funny thing, They have already have helped you in so many ways it's not funny!
  • Sterling antitea... 2012/03/29 22:09:10
    Sterling
    Please tell me what you suppose the ACLU has done for me.
  • antitea... Sterling 2012/03/29 22:22:09
    antiteaparty
    +5
    Since its creation on Jan. 19, 1920, the American Civil Liberties Union has taken on issues ranging from abortion, the death penalty, and immigration to religious displays, drug policy, and the war on terror. In fact, the ACLU has appeared before the US Supreme Court more times than anyone except the US Department of Justice.
  • Sterling antitea... 2012/03/29 23:10:13
    Sterling
    When the ACLU comes in claiming to support civil liberties, all you have to do to realize their talking out of their ass is to put yourself in the shoes of the person they are bringing a suit against. The ACLU almost always stomps all over the civil liberties of the common person in a frivolous case, and are glorified injury lawyers. That's not to say they never do anything good, that's just to say they rarely do.
  • antitea... Sterling 2012/03/29 23:49:04
    antiteaparty
    +4
    Here are just a few of our civil rights victories
    from the last nine decades …

    Oh yes I see that {rolls eyes}

    Championing Political Freedom during the Palmer Raids in 1920:
    In its first year, the ACLU championed citizens being targeted for deportation, including politically radical immigrants. We also supported trade unionists’ right to organize, and secured the release of hundreds of activists imprisoned for antiwar activities.

    Defending Science through the Scopes Case in 1925:
    When biology teacher John T. Scopes was charged with violating a Tennessee ban on the teaching of evolution, the ACLU was there and secured celebrated attorney Clarence Darrow for his defense.

    Fighting the Internment of Japanese Americans in 1942:
    The ACLU stood almost alone in denouncing the federal government's internment of more than 110,000 Japanese Americans in concentration camps during WWII.

    Desegregating America's schools through Brown v. Board of Education in 1954:
    The ACLU shared a major victory with the NAACP when the Supreme Court declared that racially segregated schools were in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment.

    Protecting Students' Free Speech in 1969:
    In Tinker v. Des Moines, the ACLU won a major Supreme Court victory on behalf of public school students suspended for wearing black armbands in p...




















    Here are just a few of our civil rights victories
    from the last nine decades …

    Oh yes I see that {rolls eyes}

    Championing Political Freedom during the Palmer Raids in 1920:
    In its first year, the ACLU championed citizens being targeted for deportation, including politically radical immigrants. We also supported trade unionists’ right to organize, and secured the release of hundreds of activists imprisoned for antiwar activities.

    Defending Science through the Scopes Case in 1925:
    When biology teacher John T. Scopes was charged with violating a Tennessee ban on the teaching of evolution, the ACLU was there and secured celebrated attorney Clarence Darrow for his defense.

    Fighting the Internment of Japanese Americans in 1942:
    The ACLU stood almost alone in denouncing the federal government's internment of more than 110,000 Japanese Americans in concentration camps during WWII.

    Desegregating America's schools through Brown v. Board of Education in 1954:
    The ACLU shared a major victory with the NAACP when the Supreme Court declared that racially segregated schools were in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment.

    Protecting Students' Free Speech in 1969:
    In Tinker v. Des Moines, the ACLU won a major Supreme Court victory on behalf of public school students suspended for wearing black armbands in protest of the Vietnam War, a major First Amendment victory.

    Defending Reproductive Rights from 1973 onward:
    After decades of struggle, the Supreme Court held — in Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton — that the constitutional right to privacy encompasses a woman's right to decide whether to continue a pregnancy. But the battle continues, and the ACLU is still fighting to protect women's right to reproductive choice.

    Taking a Stand for Free Speech in Skokie in 1978:
    The ACLU took a controversial stand for free speech by defending a Nazi group that planned to march through the Chicago suburb of Skokie — where many Holocaust survivors lived. The notoriety of the case cost the ACLU dearly as members left in droves, but to many, it was our finest hour and has come to represent our unwavering commitment to principle.

    Protecting Internet Free Speech in 1997:
    In ACLU v. Reno, the Supreme Court struck down the 1996 Communications Decency Act, which broadly censored "indecent" speech on the Internet. Since then, Congress has passed numerous laws to criminalize constitutionally protected speech online. Each has been declared unconstitutional after challenges by the ACLU.

    Exposing Torture from 2003 onward:
    After a five-year legal battle, the ACLU obtained critical documents detailing the Bush torture program, including long-secret legal memos justifying waterboarding and other abuses and an Inspector General's report highlighting CIA abuses. The ACLU is leading the demand for full accountability for those who authorized or condoned torture.

    Keeping Religion Out of Science Classrooms in 2005:
    Eighty years after the Scopes Trial, the ACLU challenged a Pennsylvania requirement that high school biology classes teach "intelligent design" alongside evolution. The judge ruled that "intelligent design" is not science and teaching it violated the First Amendment, garnering nationwide attention.

    Protecting the Right to Privacy in 2009:
    In Safford Unified School District v. Redding, the court ruled that school officials violated the constitutional rights of a 13-year-old Arizona girl, when they strip-searched her based on a classmate's uncorroborated accusation.

    Helping LGBT Americans Serve Openly in 2010:
    In a landmark court win, an Air Force major discharged because of her sexual orientation was reinstated, contributing to the eventual repeal of the discriminatory and unconstitutional "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.
    (more)
  • God ble... antitea... 2012/03/30 17:39:09 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    so? ACLU has also represented N.A.M.B.L.A.

    Scourge of the earth cloaked in "righteous " indignation to fool people as far as my opinion goes.

    And so ACLU is going to "help" protect all those chiidren eh???
  • antitea... God ble... 2012/03/30 18:45:28
    antiteaparty
    They didn't represent NAMBLA for the purposes of sex with children. They protected the rights of freedom of speech.... Like they have in many other cases....


    http://www.aclu.org/free-spee...
  • God ble... antitea... 2012/03/30 19:47:16
    God bless American freedom
    Your response makes me ill.

    Goodbye.
  • antitea... God ble... 2012/03/30 19:58:36
    antiteaparty
    +1
    Freedom of speech makes you ill? Well the right does think that the only thing in the consitution is the 2nd amendment...
  • Winghunter Sterling 2012/03/30 00:30:16
    Winghunter
    The NEA's Anti-American Agenda Threatens Our Nation http://www.natvan.com/america...

    NEA Lawyer on Union's Far-Left Agenda http://bit.ly/eYN8uY
  • Winghunter antitea... 2012/03/30 00:28:18
    Winghunter
    Where's the ACLU to Defend the Duke Lacrosse Players?
    http://www.humanevents.com/ar...

    Shocker: ACLU actually supports Joe the Plumber … now
    http://hotair.com/archives/20...

    Sacramento Community, ACLU, and Creating More Ted Bundys
    http://www.americanchronicle....

    BSA 1, ACLU 0
    http://www.copthetruth.com/co...

    The ACLU Feeds Heavily At The Public Trough
    http://www.gopusa.com/comment...

    The ACLU is evil
    http://www.renewamerica.us/co...

    The ACLU v. Good Judges
    http://www.humanevents.com/ar...

    Discover The Networks - A Guide To The Political Left
    http://www.discoverthenetwork...
    Where's the ACLU to Defend the Duke Lacrosse Players?
    http://www.humanevents.com/ar...

    Shocker: ACLU actually supports Joe the Plumber … now
    http://hotair.com/archives/20...

    Sacramento Community, ACLU, and Creating More Ted Bundys
    http://www.americanchronicle....

    BSA 1, ACLU 0
    http://www.copthetruth.com/co...

    The ACLU Feeds Heavily At The Public Trough
    http://www.gopusa.com/comment...

    The ACLU is evil
    http://www.renewamerica.us/co...

    The ACLU v. Good Judges
    http://www.humanevents.com/ar...

    Discover The Networks - A Guide To The Political Left
    http://www.discoverthenetwork...
    (more)
  • antitea... Winghunter 2012/03/30 00:38:16
  • dallas Sterling 2012/03/29 21:51:40
  • America... Sterling 2012/03/30 04:47:02
    American☆Atheist
    How?
  • Sterling America... 2012/03/30 05:23:44
    Sterling
    How what?
  • dallas Sterling 2012/03/30 12:17:12
  • Sterling dallas 2012/03/30 17:21:15 (edited)
    Sterling
    +1
    If that's true I don't give a flying fornication. This has nothing to do with the Jews, this has everything to do with ACLU being a ridiculous organization.
  • God ble... Sterling 2012/03/30 17:44:03 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    this is one of the ?s posed by the little panda named dallas

    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...

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  • Sterling God ble... 2012/03/30 18:05:56
    Sterling
    +1
    That's why we don't take too kindly to panda folk around here.
  • dallas Sterling 2012/03/30 23:22:46

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