Police like nothing better than to have it come down to a credibility contest between them and someone they have arrested. They know this is a battle they can win almost every time in front of jurors. A few years back, a local police force began videotaping field sobriety tests on DWI arrests. They quit doing so after a few months, because in too many cases what they wrote in their reports was not backed up by the tape.
There is a simple way to keep police honest, and that is to make them record. If a person is really guilty, it will reinforce the case for the prosecutor.
ACLU Launches Phone App to Record Police Stops: Should Police Recordings Be Required?
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2012/07/05 18:00:00
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All too often, police officers are accused of acting unlawfully. Either officers are wrongly accused of brutality or they have indeed brutally handled a case and gotten away with it. Well, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) wants to have your back.
A new phone app, called "Stop and Frisk Watch," plans to deal with shady cops by recording video and audio of all police encounters when the authority stops you. So, how do you feel about it? Should we equip our law enforcement with recording devices that both hold them more accountable and also help to better protect their rights as officers of the law?
AUTOBLOG.COM reports:
A new phone app, called "Stop and Frisk Watch," plans to deal with shady cops by recording video and audio of all police encounters when the authority stops you. So, how do you feel about it? Should we equip our law enforcement with recording devices that both hold them more accountable and also help to better protect their rights as officers of the law?
Shortly after the New York branch of the American Civil Liberties Union created an app called Stop and Frisk Watch, in response to the law enforcement

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Roger47 2012/07/05 18:27:32Yes





















But, if you want to record your encounter. Go for it.
There are good and bad police officers, just like in every profession. The only difference is, policemen have ultimate power over you. If they decide you are going to jail today, you are going to jail today. Regardless of whether you've committed a crime.
Too often, the public sees a video of an arrest and jumps to the conclusion that the police were acting unreasonably; they don't see the woman who was beaten by the suspect, or the bank employees cowering on their knees, or whatever it was that caused the police to react the way they did. 4 cops against 1 suspect isn't "unfair"; it's prudent behaviour to ensure the suspect doesn't hurt anyone by resisting.
A sniper accidentally shooting a hostage is tragic, but it's hardly brutality. A similar case happened on a Native reservation in Canada several years back - the mother came out the door carrying a shotgun and aimed it at the Mountie, who returned fire; he accidentally killed not only the mother, but a toddler who followed her outside. In any event, I don't see how a videotape of the incident would answer any questions.
The list is not endless - you only cite 3 instances, and you apparently got 2 of them wrong.
You said the list of cases of police brutality was "endless", yet you only provided 3 examples, and at least 2 of them were questionable. I still don't know which case in NY you were talking about; maybe if you gave me a hint I could check it out for myself. But cops are human beings; they make mistakes. Mistakes are not brutality. Don't tell me that a sniper never misses. And don't give me that crap about "oh, he could have shot the guy in the leg"; that just tells me you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
But if all you want to do is foam at the mouth and scream, I have no interest in continuing the discussion.
Have a nice day.
1. You can't simply re-define words to mean what you want them to mean. A sniper who makes a difficult judgement call which ends badly is not being "brutal"; at worst, it's a tragic mistake, and you cannot simply redefine the word "brutality" to include "honest mistake made under pressure".
2. I'm not a cop, and never have been. I find, however, that people like you find it incomprehensible that someone who is not, and never has been, a police officer would stick up for them. Ergo, you simply insist that I'm a cop or an ex-cop (and, therefore, that I'm a liar to boot); that way, you find it easier to dismiss my arguments without bothering to address the substance. That's called the 'ad homimen' fallacy.
3. How the 7734 am I supposed to google these incidents when you repeatedly ignore my civil requests for enough information to do so? You won't even tell me the city in which these incidents allegedly occurred, let alone the PDs involved, the year or month in which they occurred, or the name of even one of the participants. You're too lazy to post any of that information, even though you presumably know it; yet you accuse me of being lazy because I'm not prepared to waste several days of my time trying to figure out which incidents y...
1. You can't simply re-define words to mean what you want them to mean. A sniper who makes a difficult judgement call which ends badly is not being "brutal"; at worst, it's a tragic mistake, and you cannot simply redefine the word "brutality" to include "honest mistake made under pressure".
2. I'm not a cop, and never have been. I find, however, that people like you find it incomprehensible that someone who is not, and never has been, a police officer would stick up for them. Ergo, you simply insist that I'm a cop or an ex-cop (and, therefore, that I'm a liar to boot); that way, you find it easier to dismiss my arguments without bothering to address the substance. That's called the 'ad homimen' fallacy.
3. How the 7734 am I supposed to google these incidents when you repeatedly ignore my civil requests for enough information to do so? You won't even tell me the city in which these incidents allegedly occurred, let alone the PDs involved, the year or month in which they occurred, or the name of even one of the participants. You're too lazy to post any of that information, even though you presumably know it; yet you accuse me of being lazy because I'm not prepared to waste several days of my time trying to figure out which incidents you are referring to.
Here's a couple of cases of police brutality that, IMHO, weren't brutality at all:
Stacy Bonds, a young woman arrested for public drunk and disorderly, who physically resisted attempts to search her, took a swing at a police woman (on video), and moments later savagely kicked that same police woman (on video) so hard that the police woman was unable to put any weight on her right leg for several minutes. Police immediately wrestled Bonds to the floor (taking great pains to avoid inflicting any physical injury) and strip searched her; the judge threw out all charges against Bonds because of what he considered "excessive use of force".
Geoff Mantler, an RCMP constable in BC, Canada who apparently kicked an armed gunman in the face (caught on tape by a bystander across the street), apparently after the gunman leaped out of his truck and attacked Mantler. Mantler took down an armed gunman without a shot being fired; for that, he is now facing criminal charges for "excessive use of force". (And yes, I consider the fact that the armed gunman, Mr. Tavares, did not have a gun in his hand when he attacked Const. Mantler to be irrelevant.)
Google those.
Is the recorded video able to be manipulated at all? Because that would be wrong.
the folks likely to have an app like this will likely be the folks that get in trouble a lot anyway.
BTW, I am one of the guys that spy on folks (it is part of my job) when they work and boy do they take an issue when they are caught facebooking instead of working and then they try to pull the Union card.
Video and photographs don't always tell the whole story; the problem is, most members of the public assume that, having watched the video, they know everything they need to know.
But you bring up a good point - if video recordings become the norm, then any time the camera malfunctions, for any reason, the defense lawyers are going to pounce on it to get their client off, by making it look as if the police are hiding something - even if they're not.