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A Question for pro lifers, 8million people have been killed since Jesus's death because of him. If every life is sacred wouldn't it make more sense for him never to have been born?

santanasmooth 2012/03/04 00:53:01
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  • wers 2012/03/04 03:43:08
    wers
    +1
    You will have to help me with this one....just exactly how is it Jesus's fault that 8 million people have been killed because of HIM?
  • santana... wers 2012/03/04 08:21:07
    santanasmooth
    If there were no Christianity , then all those people would not have been killed before their time.
  • wers santana... 2012/03/04 23:32:20
    wers
    HOW would you ever be able to accurately determine such a statement? Hitler was not a Christian, but because of him, @ 75 MILLION people were killed.....so, by your logic, all white males, or all German male babies, should have been killed at birth to prevent the deaths of these 75 Million people....here is another one....since 1945 over 1.5 billion babies have been murdered via abortion....so, if no doctors were ever trained, or no one ever invented the term "abortion", if Roe Vs. Wade were never passed, or ....here it is>..:IF NO WOMAN EVER HAD SEX...lt would have saved over 1.5 BILLION lives!?!?!?
    Because PEOPLE kill in the name of someone, anyone, the responsibility is on the PEOPLE, not that which they use to justify it unless HE or SHE calls for such killing, IE MUSLIMS......AND, would you please show me ONE single incidence where JESUS calls for the killing of anyone?
    Your anger with Jesus is obviously misplaced....why don't you blame those who kill in the name of Jesus, or the name of Alah, or Buda, etc. ...the PEOPLE, or the leaders, or the pregnant women who chose to get pregnant, then decide to murder a totally innocent baby for their convenience sake . Jesus never killed anyone, nor did he call for the killing of anyone, try putting your anger where it might do some good.
  • santana... wers 2012/03/05 00:08:52
    santanasmooth
    You loose by your first statement, Hitler was Christian , the rest of your diatribe is irrelevantsince it is not partof this question, next?
  • wers santana... 2012/03/05 04:19:13
    wers
    Hitler, claimed to be such, but in reality and practicality was never a Christian (being a Christian is far different from saying you are one)......the rest of my statements are directly supportive of my views unlike your views which have no support other than your mind.
  • santana... wers 2012/03/05 10:49:14
    santanasmooth
    That is like saying any christian that does not follow your faith the exact way you do is not a real christian. It is an excuse and not backed by facts. A He was brought up Catholic -Christian, and b he referenced God many times in his writings and speeches. Your example would disqualify the Pope.
  • wers santana... 2012/03/06 03:02:27
    wers
    NO, it is exactly like saying: Just because someone claims to be Christian, it is their actions that prove them to be such, not their words....just like your words do not make Jesus the killer of 8 million (?) people, but the actions of PEOPLE caused the deaths.
  • EyeLovesJesus 2012/03/04 01:53:23
    EyeLovesJesus
    +1
    Hello dear one..

    Every life is sacred..

    That is why Jesus gave his own life, so that we have life eternal with God..

    Can anyone show us one person other than Melchizedek, Enoch or the prophet Elijah..(that were taken to heaven, without first dying)..

    If not, then we all have to be born and have to die do we not?

    How many have died not knowing about Jesus..

    To Whom & Where does the blame lie then?

    The above is said in Love..not sarcasm


    With Love..In Christ.. :o)
    ((((((( HUGS )))))))
  • santana... EyeLove... 2012/03/04 01:56:16
    santanasmooth
    +1
    Regardless of who dies because of what this question is about Jesus. By your logic than abortion should not be a big deal because they all go home anyways?
  • EyeLove... santana... 2012/03/04 02:02:24
    EyeLovesJesus
    Hello..

    Abortion is taking an innocent life, that has not even been given the chance at taking their first breath..

    There lies the difference..

    With Love..In Christ.. :o)
    ((((((( HUGS )))))))
  • santana... EyeLove... 2012/03/04 02:04:59
    santanasmooth
    +1
    Regadless to a pro lifer all life is sacred, so not born born it shoulsd all be the same to them./ =)
  • EyeLove... santana... 2012/03/04 02:15:38
    EyeLovesJesus
    Hello dear one..

    If Jesus had never been born..I would not be pro-lifer..

    Because Jesus was the first man who showed us, that while we still live on this earth we are to help one another..

    No greater Love has this: That a man lay down his life for a friend..

    I would give up my life to save you..though we have not even met..

    That is what pure Love is..


    With Love..In Christ.. :o)
    ((((((( HUGS )))))))
  • santana... EyeLove... 2012/03/04 02:18:22
    santanasmooth
    +1
    People are good, bad or indifferent regardless of religion. If you did not have god or your beliefs I am sure you would still be a the giving person you seem to be.
  • EyeLove... santana... 2012/03/04 02:29:58
    EyeLovesJesus
    Hello dear one...

    Thank-you for your kind words.. :o)

    I was not a nice woman..I was a whore..a drug addict & the list goes on..

    My life was all about me & who can I use for my own gain..I did not even like my own daughter who was 10 years old..

    It was not until I reached my breaking point, that I turned to Jesus..

    My whole life changed overnight..I woke up with so much Love in my heart for "Every Person" on this earth..

    My daughter came downstairs to see who I was talking with, that is when I said Sherry I Love you (it was the first time in her life that I had told her) We both cried together..My life has never been the same..

    All I want to do is help others, I do not ask anyone what their faith or thoughts may be..I just want to give what little I have, to those that do not have..

    Please accept my apologies as this is lengthy..


    With Love..In Christ.. :o)
    ((((((( HUGS )))))))
  • DocAJ EyeLove... 2013/05/07 21:07:41
  • EyeLove... DocAJ 2013/05/07 21:36:05
    EyeLovesJesus
    Hello dear one..

    What can I help you with?

    With Love..In Christ.. :o)
    ((((((( HUGS )))))))
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2012/03/04 01:46:30
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    +1
    I think you're way off with that number. It has to be more, much more, IMO.
  • BattleBattlerBenji (PHAET) 2012/03/04 01:23:41
    BattleBattlerBenji (PHAET)
    Maybe, maybe not. But the problem is not Jesus. Its some of his followers.
  • Atmara 2012/03/04 01:21:16
    Atmara
    Every minute the world spends $700,000 on war

    Every minute the world spends  700 000 on war

    while 30 children die of hunger and disease
  • lonewolf 2012/03/04 01:17:49
    lonewolf
    +2
    don't put that on him.
  • santana... lonewolf 2012/03/04 01:19:42
    santanasmooth
    +1
    Why it is a legit question, because of him 8 million people have died.
  • lonewolf santana... 2012/03/04 01:21:11
    lonewolf
    +2
    wrong. how to you come to that idea
  • santana... lonewolf 2012/03/04 01:29:46
    santanasmooth
    Regardless of his intentions or his legitimacy people have died in his name and because of him. Now you can argue other religions blah blah but this is all on him
    http://www.truthbeknown.com/v...

    http://bookrate.wordpress.com...
  • lonewolf santana... 2012/03/04 01:31:26
    lonewolf
    +2
    don't have to god gave man free will. what they do with it is on them
  • santana... lonewolf 2012/03/04 01:32:33
    santanasmooth
    But without him those people would not have died before theeir time, so in the end still because of him.
  • lonewolf santana... 2012/03/04 01:42:16
    lonewolf
    +1
    everyone dies sometime. its written before were ever born
  • santana... lonewolf 2012/03/04 01:48:31
    santanasmooth
    +1
    lol That's your excuse.. so you did not get mad when the 9'11 thing happened? We all have to go sometime?
  • lonewolf santana... 2012/03/04 01:51:38
    lonewolf
    +1
    sure i got mad like every american did i'm human.
  • santana... lonewolf 2012/03/04 01:53:00 (edited)
    santanasmooth
    So your response that everyone dies sometimes is not the way you really feel then?
  • lonewolf santana... 2012/03/04 01:56:16
    lonewolf
    +2
    everyone does die no one gets out alive but i didn't put the blame on god either.
  • santana... lonewolf 2012/03/04 01:58:25
    santanasmooth
    This is hypothetical, just like3 if you went back and killed Hitler before the war. It is more why are the pro lifers not concerned with those that are already here if all life is sacred?
  • lonewolf santana... 2012/03/04 02:07:53
    lonewolf
    +1
    life is sacred to me.
  • santana... lonewolf 2012/03/04 02:09:07
    santanasmooth
    Then why do you support any dogma that because of it's existence has taken even one life?
  • lonewolf santana... 2012/03/04 02:14:11
    lonewolf
    +1
    i understand what's going on. too many blame everything on god what if he never was then who would the non believers blame then.
  • santana... lonewolf 2012/03/04 02:19:26
    santanasmooth
    How can he take credit or blame for anything then?
  • lonewolf santana... 2012/03/04 02:24:19
    lonewolf
    +1
    i know this to be fact. god is alive and well and answers prayers people need to put the blame where it belongs its just easy for people to blame him for everything that happens that they don't understand.
  • santana... lonewolf 2012/03/04 02:29:23
    santanasmooth
    That is a nice sentiment but we live in reality. Real people died because of Christianities rise. Real dead bodies, real pain , real blood.
  • lonewolf santana... 2012/03/04 02:49:10
    lonewolf
    i live in reality also. and i see what goes on we all have pain that's a fact but i also see the good side of life. i'm not just one sided
  • wers santana... 2012/03/05 04:22:25
    wers
    Actually, real people died because of PEOPLE, not Jesus....could you show me where Jesus called for killing....
  • wers wers 2012/03/06 03:03:31
    wers
    I didn't think you would respond with proof of Jesus calling for any killing.......so predictable.

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