Quantcast

A Good Day for Obama as Supreme Court Adds to Romney’s Immigration Nightmare

ProudProgressive 2012/06/25 15:30:43

A Good Day for Obama as Supreme Court Adds to Romney’s Immigration Nightmare
By: Jason Easley
June 25, 2012

The Supreme Court has declared three of the four parts of the Arizona immigration law unconstitutional, but the court upheld the provision that police officers can determine the immigration status of anyone lawfully stopped.

The Supreme Court threw out most of the law, but they upheld the most controversial part. However, overall the court upheld the federal power to make immigration policy, “The federal power to determine immigration policy is well settled. Immigration policy can affect trade, investment, tourism, and diplomatic relations for the entire Nation, as well as the perceptions and expectations of aliens in this country who seek the full protection of its laws.”

The court destroyed the Republican argument that states have the right to make their own separate immigration policies, “The National Government has significant power to regulate immigration. With power comes responsibility, and the sound exercise of national power over immigration depends on the Nation’s meeting its responsibility to base its laws on a political will informed by searching, thoughtful, rational civic discourse. Arizona may have understandable frustrations with the problems caused by illegal immigration while that process continues, but the State may not pursue policies that undermine federal law.”

The stop and check provision that was left standing is going to be subject to years of further litigation. This ruling sends a strong message to state’s that this anti-immigrant legislative arms race between the states can’t contradict federal law.

The Supreme Court narrowed the papers please provision, and left the door open to future challenges based on the implementation of the law, “This opinion does not foreclose other preemption and constitutional challenges to the law as interpreted and applied after it goes into effect.”

In simple political terms, this is a win for the Obama administration and the federal government. This is a horrible day for Mitt Romney. He has campaigned on what has been ruled an unconstitutional, anti-federalist stance on immigration.

This is a bad day for the anti-immigrant right who was advocating the round them up and deport them policy. On the campaign trail, this is a good day for Obama, and a lousy day for Romney. The Supreme Court agreed with Obama’s view that the federal government is in charge of immigration policy. The court struck down Romney’s idea that Arizona’s law was the model for immigration policy around the country. This also ruling just so happened to keep alive the one part of the Arizona law that is certain to mobilize Latino voters. This decision was one of the worst possible outcomes for Republicans and especially, Mitt Romney.


Read More: http://www.politicususa.com/good-day-obama-supreme...

You!
Add Photos & Videos

Top Opinion

  • Steve 2012/06/25 15:44:26
    Steve
    +9
    It is too bad that there isn't stronger accountability for state-level nut jobs who pass obviously unconstitutional laws. This kind of ruling SHOULD be grounds for removing the idiots who passed and signed the law, but it isn't grounds under our system.

Sort By
  • Most Raves
  • Least Raves
  • Oldest
  • Newest
Opinions

  • JP 2012/06/26 16:29:58
    JP
    I like the key provision of being able to check the immigration status of those detained.
  • Jane 2012/06/26 12:28:28
    Jane
    Impressive that this supreme court recognizes human beings and not just corporations.
    Remember this country is a nation of immigrants, legal and illegal.
  • mich52 2012/06/26 06:14:11
    mich52
    Face it, the SCOTUS says the Fed. controls Immigration. How long and how many stupid Con. blogs have been on here about the Az law..

    Guess what, the SCOTUS decided. Scalia using Obama's Eo as an excuse was pathetic.. Roberts, you Cons can bitch all you want.. I"m shocked, Roberts?
  • GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~612 BLOCKT 2012/06/26 02:01:25
    GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~612 BLOCKT
    It certainly ends Jan Brewer's contention that SB 1070 "mirrored" federal law.
  • Ira 2012/06/25 22:07:27
    Ira
    +2
    Thanks, PP. Now go see this: http://www.sodahead.com/unite... and please set the record straight. I have no patience for this crap any longer.

    Again, thanks for all your work here.
  • FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX 2012/06/25 21:42:41
  • mich52 2012/06/25 21:01:41
    mich52
    +2
    I think they definitely got it right I'm just shocked that Roberts sided with the Liberal Judges..
  • GuruA2J... mich52 2012/06/26 02:02:28
    GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~612 BLOCKT
    +1
    Me too
  • JaguarSocialist 2012/06/25 20:54:08
    JaguarSocialist
    +2
    Yes, the Supreme Court just made Mitt Romney's life even more miserable than it was already. Let's not forget Rubio's comment that Arizona's immigration law was NOT a model.
  • Z 2012/06/25 19:07:35
    Z
    +2
    Jokes. First of all, while unconstitutional, it wasn't actually making "separate immigration policies" it was giving local police the power to enforce federal policy. Second, calling this "anti-immigration" is like calling abortion anti-child. Third, this law is extremely popular with the American people, so saying that this adds in any way to Romney's "immigration nightmare" falls flat of reality. Most people won't care about this decision, especially after Thursday. Fourth, and I think this is more important than anything, this didn't mobilize Latino voters when it was first passed. It isn't going to now. Fifith, I have never seen Romney campaign on this. That isn't just wrong, it is a flat out lie based on zero evidence. The only thing he said about Arizona's immigration policy was in a presidential debate, where he said, speaking about the e-verify system, that "Arizona is a model of how to handle the issue." While I do not agree with still, he hasn't said a word in favor of this law.

    Other than that most of the law was found unconstitutional, I didn't find a single thing is true about this. It may even be a net positive for Romney, since he can use this to shift the narrative to how "poorly" the president has done on immigration control. And, by conservative standards, he has.

    And, the funny thing is Proud, I suspect we agree on this issue, or are at least fairly close to it.
  • Cal 2012/06/25 19:07:27
    Cal
    +1
    Ok. So Romney campaigned for something thrown out by the court. Sure. You gonna be the this excited next week when Obamacare gets thrown out? I'll make the poll myself.......it'll read....

    A Good Day for Romney as Supreme Court Adds to Obama’s Healthcare Nightmare

    LOOK FOR IT! ;)
  • Paul 2012/06/25 18:39:08
    Paul
    +1
    Set aside the coming election and Obama and Romney. I'm glad the Federal courts stepped in making sure Arizona was meeting constitutional grounds on this, but I can see where there could be concerns for what should be left to powers of the States. Immigration is a Federal matter, but States like Arizona have greater concerns than most other states, maybe should have more power on the matter to be used responsibly.
    This particular case, I think the courts acted accordingly, don't think we've heard the end of it.
  • jgh57 2012/06/25 18:30:23
    jgh57
    +1
    It may be a good day for Obama (I'm voting Democrat) but it is a bad day for America.
  • ProudPr... jgh57 2012/06/25 18:32:02
    ProudProgressive
    +4
    What makes you say that? Even a conservative Supreme Court agrees that Arizona went too far.
  • jgh57 ProudPr... 2012/06/25 18:57:12
    jgh57
    +1
    States have the right and obligation to protect their citizens. Law enforcement has the right and obligation to arrest anyone committing a crime. Anyone who is in this country illegally is committing a crime. Tyhe Federal Government and now the US Supreme Court are aiding and abetting in that criminal activity.
  • Paul jgh57 2012/06/25 18:51:59
    Paul
    +1
    I see the concerns, Arizona supreme court should have handled this without Federal intervention. Forget Obama and Romney, but State power over Federal jurisdiction is the issue I some concern. Fact that what did get upheld was the stop and check provision adds to an increasing police state of our country in my mind infringes on the basic freedoms this country is supposed to be noted for.
    Can be looked at as more loss of liberty, but disguised as some sort of victory.
  • jgh57 Paul 2012/06/25 18:58:10
    jgh57
    The Arizona Supreme Court did the right thing. The right thing to do now would be to ignore the US Supreme Court.
  • Paul jgh57 2012/06/25 19:18:44
    Paul
    Can't ignore it, maybe it should be challenged though. I doubt very much we've heard the end of this
  • jgh57 Paul 2012/06/26 21:16:18
    jgh57
    The Supreme Court is the top of the line unless our useless congress does something to make a constitutional amendment to give the states the right they already have. Yes the states could choose to ignore the Supreme Court on the grounds that the Constitution never gave them the legal power to decide such matters. If enough states stood together it would stick. It would be a scary president but somewhere the madness must stop.
  • uncle r... jgh57 2012/06/26 10:11:48
  • Bill G53 ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/25 17:51:27
    Bill G53  ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Well I guess you can say this is a good day for Obama and the Mexican drug cartel can't you PP? It's odd you left that one out. Likewise this is a bad day for Romney and Arizona ranchers who will have to continue to protect their farms and their lives from the criminal element from Mexico, otherwise know as "more Democrat voters."
  • ProudPr... Bill G5... 2012/06/25 18:33:56
    ProudProgressive
    +5
    Today's decision has nothing to do with a Mexican drug cartel. It has to do with upholding the United States Constitution, something neither you nor Governor Romney seem to care about. (PS - Massachusetts is not on the Mexican border).

    And what is it about conservatives that they simply don't understand the basic notion that noncitizens don't vote?
  • Paul ProudPr... 2012/06/25 19:07:45
    Paul
    +1
    Even if drug cartels wasn't a direct reason why the law was addressed at this time doesn't discount the effect of how it may effect the aspects of the infamous war on drugs and potentially dangerous scenarios.

    Even though these non-citizens don't vote (or shouldn't be able to vote), any large population of people in this country affect the political scene. Obama's recent announcement his administration won't prosecute certain immigration offenders and the whole Dream Act is evidence enough to support the idea these people do affect the political agendas in this country.
  • Bill G5... ProudPr... 2012/06/25 19:33:53
    Bill G53  ~PWCM~JLA
    I understand about upholding the Constitution perhaps better than Erc Holder.

    I also know my point was not lost on you PP. My guess is you just hate it that I made a good point to counter your attempt at spin. The court ruling IS a good thing for Obama AND Mexican drug cartels. If you don't realize that then you are not as smart as I give you credit for.
  • voice_matters 2012/06/25 17:46:50
    voice_matters
    can you send the link to the speech where romney said that?
  • ProudPr... voice_m... 2012/06/25 19:41:13
    ProudProgressive
    +4
    The article doesn't quote Governor Romney.
  • voice_m... ProudPr... 2012/06/25 20:21:37
    voice_matters
    thanks for showing you are unable to defend your own comments
  • ally 2012/06/25 17:21:30
    ally
    +4
    The Romney Backstep will soon be coming into play. He's already tried to spin his "I'll veto any DREAM Act if elected" speech.

    Marco Rubio, if you're going to AZ with Romney- get your papers ready.
  • GuruA2J... ally 2012/06/26 02:07:46
    GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~612 BLOCKT
    +1
    That's for sure cuz them nAZi's hate Hispanics. They all look like "Messakin's" to them.
  • ally GuruA2J... 2012/06/26 02:35:12
    ally
    +1
    They still gots Sheriff Joe Arpaio....that is until the Justice dept. comes a callin'.
  • luvguins 2012/06/25 16:41:37
    luvguins
    +6
    So true, as Romney continues to be vague about his "long term soluton", the Dream Act, and whether would he veto Obama's executive order, Hispanics will go to the polls in droves against him in November. They heard Romney earlier say the AZ law should be law for the rest of the country, and that illegals should "self deport". Romney cannot win without 35% Hispanic support especially in battleground states which now have more Hispanics than in 2008.
  • ProudPr... luvguins 2012/06/25 17:24:13
    ProudProgressive
    +4
    In a week he'll be claiming that the DREAM Act was his idea.
  • luvguins ProudPr... 2012/06/25 17:43:23
    luvguins
    +3
    LOL. Just like bailing out the auto industry was his idea.
  • Ambassador II 2012/06/25 16:33:55 (edited)
    Ambassador II
    +3
    Even the "conservative" "Roberts Court" is telling RWNJs that the Constitution does mean something and they need to reread it so as to not wander off into the world of their own delusions and making. Arizona has become a harbor for radicals, with a looney Governor, a equally looney Sheriff, and about 20% of the population living "illegally". To make matters worse, Sarah Palin bouoght a house in Paradise Valley, near Dan Quayle, and no one knows what goes on up there anymore with all the gunshots and screams.
  • Max 2012/06/25 16:24:49
    Max
    The "show me your papers" law still stands and Sheriff Joe says he'll continue to enforce the law as always. If the federal government would do their job and protect our borders from illegal aliens invading the US, states wouldn't have to pass these kind of laws to protect their citizens.
  • ProudPr... Max 2012/06/25 17:02:48
    ProudProgressive
    +5
    For now. The Court upheld the part of the law that allows immigration checks during a LAWFUL STOP (something Sheriff Joe isn't familiar with) because it was, in their view, premature - while it's obvious that this part of the law has a disciminatory effect on Hispanics (after all, that was the point of the law in the first place), until the law actually goes into effect it can't be proven that it will have that effect. That part will be struck down within a year.

    And the Federal Government is doing its job and protecting our borders. The number of people being deported is higher now than it was at any time during the Bush years, and the number of people entering illegally is lower than it ever was under Bush. In 2011 we had the first year of net zero illegal immigration in well over a decade. There are more border patrol agents now then there have ever been. The reality is that while illegal immigration is of course a problem, it is hardly the "crisis" that bigots like Sheriff Joe try to make it out to be.
  • Paul ProudPr... 2012/06/25 18:13:26
    Paul
    +1
    "LAWFUL STOP" will continue to be a sore spot as I see it, leaving open the idea of profiling. One of those things difficult to prove in the courts due to what constitutes adequate discretion. I wonder even if bad effect can be shown if it will ever get struck down. Thanks as always for your informative post PP
  • GuruA2J... Paul 2012/06/26 02:13:40
    GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~612 BLOCKT
    Arpaio is gonna get in trouble in that area cuz his racial profiling has been public knowledge for years.
  • Rebel Yell 2012/06/25 16:04:07
    Rebel Yell
    +6
    Arizona... oh, Arizona. Your state deserves so much better than finger wagging, ditzy Brewer, who has cost your state so much money in court costs with this foolishness.

    From the get go it was obvious how the Supremes would rule..... state law does not trump federal law. End of story.

    As for Mitt, he will be along shortly explaining how this ruling was his idea to begin with. You know, the same way he advised Obama to bail out the auto industry. His idea ,too.
  • dallas 2012/06/25 16:00:59

News & Politics

2013/05/25 21:21:05

Hot Questions on SodaHead
More Hot Questions

More Community More Originals