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A 4 year old girl called 911, 300 times, should she have gotten in any trouble? If not her, her parents?

Eric 2007/07/06 22:26:55
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CARPENTERSVILLE, Ill. - Authorities tracked down a 4-year-old girl who called 911 nearly 300 times last month by offering to deliver McDonald's to her suburban Chicago apartment.

Unbeknownst to her mother, the girl used a deactivated cell phone to call dispatchers 287 times in June — sometimes as often as 20 times a shift.

Dispatchers heard the child's voice but could only track the phone's signal to the apartment complex.

So authorities used a ruse to pinpoint her.

"We asked (the caller) what she wanted. She said she wanted McDonald's," said Steve Cordes, executive director of QuadCom's emergency center, which covers Carpentersville.

"We talked with her and we convinced her if she told us where she lives, we would bring her McDonald's," he said. "She finally gave us her address. So we sent the police over — with no McDonald's."

After police arrived, the girl's mother took away the phone, Cordes said.

Under federal law, deactivated cell phones still must be able to access 911. Many deactivated phones will contact an emergency call center if the user holds down the nine key.
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  • Teedee 2007/07/06 21:44:35
    No
    Teedee
    +7
    That many times does make me think..Hmmm..what's going on with the parents here. We did catch our son steal a couple pieces of small candy from a store one time and told the store manager..call the cops.. cops came and we had a talk with them and ask them to "talk" to him about what he did. They sat him in the back of the squad car and "talk" to him about what he done. He learned a good lesson that day.

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  • Co-Co 2008/05/11 16:04:39
    No
    Co-Co
    I JUST LIKE THE PIC ON IT! lol
  • Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~ 2008/03/04 17:57:37 (edited)
    Undecided
    Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~
    +2
    I think a four year old is pretty smart. Do i think she should
    have gotten in trouble???? She should have been told the serious
    side of 911. And of course that playing with real phones is not cool.
    The one who really could use the whipping is her parents come
    on 300 times?If you look at it like this she was tying up a line
    that maybe a emergency couldn't reach? The parents are lucky
    they did not get charged.
  • DrTim 2008/01/30 17:49:23
    No
    DrTim
    It takes about 300 tries to get through to a "Human" in Phoenix az.
    Usually you're put on "Hold"!!
  • Glit 2007/10/24 16:57:23 (edited)
    Undecided
    Glit
    This is a hard question. The parents didn't seem to know, and of course the child didn't know, but hopefully she knows now and won't do it again. I'm just glad they found the source because it could have been tragic if her calls had prevented someone else from getting the help they really needed. If the child is of normal intelligence and not mentally handicapped, I think a child of this age could be taught not to do that, with appropriate consequences enforced if the child misbehaved. But most likely the problem is now solved. Just one of those weird flukes where it was lucky there were no serious consequences! Smart way to catch the kid :)
  • alcatraz 2007/10/22 23:14:23
    No
    alcatraz
    She's four years old I do not fault her I fault her mother for leaving it were her daughter could get to it and the mother is lucky in some states the police could have the parents pay the bill every time the police were dispatched and that would be one hell of a bill so they are lucky that did not happen so no the four year old does not have a clue about 911 but the parents should no better blame them.
  • John 2007/09/11 20:15:27
    Yes
    John
    287 times....I think by passing 10th time, the parents are not considering her parents anymore if they didn't notice such a cry-wolf behavior...

    I think with the modern technology we have, there's got to be better ways of tracking even deactivated cellphones (since they definitely come with some type of serial numbers).

    Letting a 4-year old dial 911 and cry-wolf this many times, not only shows her parents aren't doing their jobs right, it also shows how easily 911 can be busy and jammed for real emergency callers...

    I think the government should definitely make some proactive actions to prevent such issues from happening so they can get to the real emergencies...
  • Pekins 2007/07/21 05:52:16
    No
    Pekins
    I honestly feel that the parents did not know that 911 could still be reached with the de-activated phone and innocently let the child have it to play with.Young children have lots of imaginary conversations when pretending to be using the phone. My own children and grandchildren have done that and I have even played along telling them to tell so and so I said hello. How would these parents have known the child had a real person on the phone? They thought that the phone was now just a play thing. Children should not be given a real cell phone as a play thing, then this would not happen. Also, by giving a cell phone for them to play with pretty much gives a child the idea that any cell phone is okay to play with. Stick with the toy phones that look like toys.
  • Sajama 2007/07/18 21:09:18
  • MININA 2007/07/18 13:59:29
    Yes
    MININA
    +1
    where are you parents when your kids are playing on the phone!!!
  • Alex 2007/07/18 02:49:31
    No
    Alex
    She's only 4 years old but her parents should have been responsible and told her not to do that.
  • jimih67 2007/07/12 20:31:15
    Yes
    jimih67
    +2
    Absolutely....parents need to take responsibility for what their children do. The little girl didn't know any better. And if it only happened once or twice, I'd say just let the parent know. But that is a scary thought, she was able to do this almost 300 times. Where were the parents? What if she got hold of a gun instead of a cellphone? I think this shows gross negligence on the part of her caretakers, and they should be investigated at the very least, and have to pay a fine, maybe $5 per incident to teach them a lesson. I wouldn't go so far as to take the child away or arrest the caregivers, but a 4-year old child who was able to make that many calls to 911 is a child with too much freedom. Children that age need to be supervised. On the other hand, the 911 system should be able to track exactly where a call is made from. They shouldn't have had to resort to trickery to determine where this child lived, and it should have been addressed long before the 287th time.
  • Sajama jimih67 2007/07/18 21:13:59
  • jimih67 Sajama 2007/07/19 16:37:03
    jimih67
    OK, good point. I assumed everybody knew that. But I still think 287 times is an awful lot. Someone should have figured it out before then. If not the parent, the child (even at 4) should have known she shouldn't have gotten a real person on the phone. Didn't the parent ever hear her child talking on the phone? What's wrong with picking up the phone and checking what numbers were dialed? I am assuming this happened over a period of time. If this was all in the matter of a day or 2 then maybe the parent couldn't have known. But if that kid was able to make that many calls the parent wasn't paying enough attention to her child. Maybe the phone companies need to do more to make people aware that deactivated phones can be used to dial 911. Or maybe parents shouldn't be giving their children phones to play with in the first place. Thats what Toys 'R Us is for.
  • Sajama jimih67 2007/07/19 18:46:11
  • Breeee :) 2007/07/08 21:36:02
    Yes
    Breeee :)
    The parents should be watching there kids and not giving them a phone?!
  • reminder 2007/07/08 04:56:12
    Yes
    reminder
    +2
    She should be told what she did was wrong and why. Then take the phone away from her. Her mother may have given her the deactivated phone to play with not thinking of 911 still being available. (I would not have thought of it, as I gave mine to my grandchildren to play with). It is something that phone companies need to make known at the time of disconnection. Or you will see it happen more.
  • Shana 2007/07/07 22:33:24
    Yes
    Shana
    Where was her mother all of these times that she was using this cell phone? I think the little girl should be in trouble to some degree because she has got to know that she was doing something wrong. I am sure that 911 explained to her on some occasion that they were not McDonalds and they were an emergency service. The mother should be in trouble for not adequately supervising this child because if she was able to make those many phone calls, who knows what else she could be doing without her mother being aware.
  • jenni 2007/07/07 21:11:30
    No
    jenni
    +1
    That's new info to me. My 1.5 yr old daughter likes to play with real cellphones- active or not despite the fact that she has at least 3 toy cellphones. I don't think the girl nor the mother should be in trouble, but if it happens again after them knowing about it, then that's a different story.
  • Alicia 2007/07/07 20:53:36
    No
    Alicia
    +1
    she was only 4..i wouldn't expect her to know any better..and i think the parents should just explain to her that it's for emergencies only..i don't really think they're to blame here..
  • jimih67 Alicia 2007/07/12 20:35:30
    jimih67
    At the age of 4, a parent should know what their child does every second of every day. If the child made a couple of calls then I'd say ok, but 287 times tells me these parents were grossly negligent, therefore they ARE to blame.
  • Alicia jimih67 2007/07/13 00:18:52
    Alicia
    +1
    you're right. that's a good point.
  • aunteek 2007/07/07 19:18:06
    No
    aunteek
    +2
    A 4 year old can't possibly understand that she wad doing wrong. I would hope the mother replaced the phone with a toy. The police at least should have brought a happy meal with them.
  • ARMENTHIA 2007/07/07 18:34:27
    No
    ARMENTHIA
    +1
    If the parents didn't know...and I'm sure they didn't....and I'm sure the child didn't realize....so no.

    I'm glad it was 911 she gave her address to and not someone looking to hurt them or the child.
  • jackrorabbit 2007/07/07 17:18:25
    Yes
    jackrorabbit
    +2
    But from her parents. There is nothing that is going to teach this 4
    year old from the police. Her parents probably gave her an old cell
    phone to play with and didn't think anything of it. She probably
    learned about 911 from day care or from kid shows on TV. And she should
    know it, but she should also know that it is for an emergency only. She
    sounds like a spoiled child, that wasn't getting what she wanted for
    dinner, and so when she found out that the phone worked(which I am
    betting the parents didn't know) she thought it was a fun toy to play
    with.
  • Michael V jackror... 2007/07/07 17:37:15
    Michael V
    +2
    She didn’t sound spoiled to me. She didn’t ask for McDonalds until the officer (or official) asked her…and no, I’m not implying entrapment.
    I just find it hard to believe that people are so willing to assume that she made a conscious effort to dial three digits, in sequence that many times when the story said that it was possible to access the Emergency Center by holding in the “9” key. Why do we assume that she “wasn't getting what she wanted for dinner” and did this to procure carry-out, or anything else other than randomly holding down keys?
  • jackror... Michael V 2007/07/07 17:42:37
    jackrorabbit
    +1
    4 year olds are much smarter than you are giving her credit for. I know
    that my daughter could dial 911 because she knows all of her numbers
    and she knows what it is for. She also knows that she isn't supposed to
    dial it unless mommy or daddy are unable to speak to her. If a rat can
    learn to push down on a lever to get food and not a shock, then a 4
    year old can learn to push buttons to get a voice.
  • Michael V jackror... 2007/07/07 18:14:12
    Michael V
    As always, I appreciate your insight but I have managed to raise a few children (and helped with a few Grandchildren) over the last thirty-three years. As a result, I do not underestimate the cognitive ability or the manual dexterity of a four-year old.
    I’m confident that your daughter is a bright and disciplined little girl.
    Further, I am substantially aware of the learning ability of Rodents, Dogs, Gorillas, etc. but that wasn’t my point! We are very quick to assume this little girl’s guilt (even implying that she is unhappy with the dinner menu) rather than her innocence, even though the news story provides a reasonable avenue to embrace some doubt!
  • jackror... Michael V 2007/07/07 18:21:36
    jackrorabbit
    True. I dont think that she was guilty at all, I think she found out
    that by pushing numbers she got a voice, and was then play acting with
    the person on the other side, just as I have watched my daughter do
    with her fake phone. I honestly dont think that she realized that what
    she was doing was "wrong", because her parents probably didn't teach
    her that it was wrong.
  • Shana jackror... 2007/07/07 22:39:12
    Shana
    +1
    Right. Parents have to teach their children important things.
  • Pat 2007/07/07 03:35:33
    No
    Pat
    +3
    I'm sure the parents didn't know that the cell would still work for 911 and just gave it to her to play with. People teach their kids 911 but at 4 yrs. old she may not have understood that it's only used for emergency. She may not even know what an emergency is. Also at 4yrs. old if the child can get someone to talk to her on her phone she is going to keep calling until someone stops her. A good idea would be to inform the public that cell phones work for 911 when deactivated. Also when parents teach a child to dial 911 they should teach them what an emergency is.
  • 5nowdog5 2007/07/07 03:00:06
    Yes
    5nowdog5
    her parents should becaus they are in charge of her.
  • Michael V 2007/07/07 02:28:50
    No
    Michael V
    +4
    Does everyone think that this four-year-old actually depressed three separate digits in the correct sequence that many times? According to the story it’s possible to access an emergency center by depressing and holding the “9” key. How many people really knew that? I certainly didn’t. My guess is that by the sheer number of times she called, it’s possible that she could have been doing just that.
    It wasn’t done maliciously.
    Tell you one thing, her battery lasts longer than the one in my phone!
  • Hank Michael V 2007/07/07 03:53:01
    Hank
    +4
    My first thought as well was the battery issue. If it's the same phone and the same battery, the kid could get a commercial endorsement from the battery manufacturer. She might be the next spokesman for the battery that keeps on going and going and going ;-)
  • K man 2007/07/07 02:00:14
    No
    K man
    +2
    The Congress/Senate made the law that created this situation. The mother did nothing wrong and the girl had no idea.

    It's just another example of unintended consequenses of a law.
  • Shroom 2007/07/07 01:54:53
    Yes
    Shroom
    +2
    I'd fine her parents and if that was my kid she'd be in trouble. My child learned not to touch the phone unless it was an emergency at 4. She's 10 and still doesn't touch it unless she has permission.

    I knew about the 911 thing. If you give a kid an old phone, take the battery off it!
  • Sajama Shroom 2007/07/19 18:54:39
  • #1Misty 2007/07/07 01:33:15
    No
    #1Misty
    I didn't know the old phone was still capable of calling 911.
  • sd *TROUBLE* 2007/07/07 01:12:36
    Yes
    sd *TROUBLE*
    Her parents, because they probably didn't teach her when and when not to call 911. Its never too early too teach a kid that.
  • Rome is burning 2007/07/06 23:38:08
    No
    Rome is burning
    +2
    I think it was an honest mistake.
  • GEMINII : queen of hope 2007/07/06 23:05:03
    Undecided
    GEMINII : queen of hope
    +3
    seems like someone should sit this little tyke down and explain to her what she did wrong and pray that she understands!

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