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9/11 conspiracy theories revisited

Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/09/10 18:25:43
Arabs flew those planes into those buildings, and did it all under the radar.
Arabs flew those planes into those buildings, but the government was negligent in leaving weaknesses they could exploit.
Arabs flew those planes into those buildings, but the government knew in advance what they were going to do and let them do it.
Arabs flew those planes into those buildings, but THEN the government triggered the buildings to fall down, just to make it look worse than it was.
Government agents, NOT Arabs, flew those planes into those buildings.
Agents of MOSSAD flew those planes into those buildings.
Someone else flew those planes into those buildings. (Who?)
I don't know who flew those planes into those buildings, but something doesn't add up here.
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Tomorrow we observe the eleventh anniversary of 9/11. And it's time to look again at the 9/11 conspiracy theories.

Why are these theories still current? Because the government failed to investigate the collapses of those buildings as thoroughly as they would have, had this incident been an "ordinary accident." And because the first political party to entertain those theories, i.e. the Democratic Party, abruptly abandoned them the instant they got The Power.

You have pro and con on these theories everywhere. But you rarely get a side-by-side of conventional-v-alternative explanation.


This video is one of those rare things: a sit-down debate between 9/11 conspiracy theory proponents and opponents. The linked article has several more videos, plus links to the most comprehensive sites, pro and con, that have useful information.

So here's a time to weigh in: just what *did* happen on 9/11, eleven years ago?

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  • ConLibFraud 2012/09/10 22:51:16
    I don't know who flew those planes into those buildings, but something doesn'...
    ConLibFraud
    +12
    I don't need a confrontation or phucking debate with dumbed down non thinking brain dead programmed slaves who can watch a building being imploded and deny what they are seeing. And those same slaves don't have the ability to watch this video because they are cowards ....

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  • Rick Armin 2012/10/17 21:10:43
    Someone else flew those planes into those buildings. (Who?)
    Rick Armin
    +1
    Chads did it. Remember all the trouble those cute ones with the dimples caused in one of our elections?

    Eh? What airplanes?
  • bettyboop 2012/09/14 07:26:11
    Government agents, NOT Arabs, flew those planes into those buildings.
    bettyboop
    +1
    I believe our own government caused all those deaths in NYC on 9/11. There are plenty of films showing that the windows blew out even before any planes hit the towers. Those towers were brought down by explosives planted in the buildings. http://patriotsquestion911.com/ . There are more than 220 statements from senior military and intelligent officials who believe we were lied to.
    For those who do not wish to believe that our government is so corrupt and would never do such a heinous act, might I suggest pulling your head out of the sand.
    There are many who have eyes but do not see, who have ears but do not hear.
  • john 2012/09/11 22:38:44
    Arabs flew those planes into those buildings, and did it all under the radar.
    john
    +1
    theories don't bring people back....
  • Kyra john 2012/09/12 16:20:14
    Kyra
    +2
    prevents it.
  • john Kyra 2012/09/12 16:43:08
    john
    +1
    how can a theory, prevent it...surely a theory can only happen after the event
  • ☆56lady☆POTL~JLA~PWCM 2012/09/11 22:29:23
    Arabs flew those planes into those buildings, but the government was negligen...
    ☆56lady☆POTL~JLA~PWCM
    +2
    Will "WE" ever know the truth ?????
  • Yep 2012/09/11 22:26:05 (edited)
    Government agents, NOT Arabs, flew those planes into those buildings.
    Yep
    +1
    What I find particularly interesting is there are always pissing matches on these boards with official story supporters repetitively spewing their taglines as much as conspiracy supporters. The conspiracy supporters are always going to be here (reasonable ones just want a 3rd party investigation that at least costs as much as Bush's inaugural celebration). Maybe its the stranglehold of cognitive dissonance loosening, but why do all the "contented" hearts that accept the official story seem to feel the need to "justify" their cases. The defensive tactics expressed are classic cases of the definition of cognitive dissonance. Open minds are learning minds. Many of these truth videos have absurd content but no more absurd than the obscenely underfunded investigation. There have been theories that everything up to remote control operation sent those planes into the trade centers. I don't know how or why it happened but after all the information I have been exposed to, government agents may not have physically been in the cockpit, but agents of the government hold responsibility for the fact that it happened in some form.
  • SimpleAmerican BN-0 2012/09/11 17:51:58
    Arabs flew those planes into those buildings, and did it all under the radar.
    SimpleAmerican BN-0
    +1
    Picked the wrong one... I meant the option where the government was negligent... Too much evidence to the contrary... as far as the US government flying the planes into the building, get a grip!
  • bettyboop SimpleA... 2012/09/14 07:29:47
  • lindasue 2012/09/11 17:49:57
    I don't know who flew those planes into those buildings, but something doesn'...
    lindasue
    +1
    The only people that refuse to believe this was yet another Government farce have a case of cranial rectal inversion. Watch Zeitgeist.
  • lindasue lindasue 2012/09/11 17:54:27
  • Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody 2012/09/11 13:56:32
    Arabs flew those planes into those buildings, but the government was negligen...
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    +3
    Conspiracy Theorys go back a long way. The Merovigian Heresy is the oldest I know of, and the trail has been plotted into the years BC.

    In America we have Masonic CTs over the Founding. The Maine CT, that America sank it's own Battleship to start the Spanish-American war. FDR and his Military Leadership have been accused of knowing the Empire of Japan would attack in the Pacific, and refusing to stop it with the intent of entering WWII in order to save both great Britain and the USSR.

    We Have the Lincoln and Kennedy assinations, and the Gulf of Tonkin insident as well as the USS Pueblo insident. Whenever every "I" is not dotted or "T' crossed a CT rises up. And the truth of that is that CT's arise because there are unanswered questions, some of which can never be answered.

    Wheither the US Government, or Agencys of it, knew anything at all the simple truth is that the fault lays at the feet of those who were or had been in power and had allowed our laws to slip and remain un-enforced. Osama Bin Laudin claimed guilt for planning and execusion of the attack, but much evidence remains that shows a Government refusing to enforce its laws allowed the training, and the attackers freedom to carry it out.
  • Rick Armin Dwight-... 2012/10/17 21:43:02
    Rick Armin
    +2
    Mankind has almost always been ruled by small groups of men who conspire to control the masses. I don't know about the Merovingian Heresy, but I know primitive tribes were controlled by witch doctors who dug tunnels, pretended to be gods by talking through speaker tubes, and learned to make different color smoke by throwing powders into the flames. All to convince their fellow tribesmen that they alone could converse with the gods and learn what they wanted. Seems they wanted the people to obey the witch doctors.

    Overwhelming circumstantial evidence led many to believe FDR had set up our fleet at Pearl and forced the Japanese to attack as a backdoor to the European war. Some of the evidence was the breaking of the Japanese diplomatic code that let our government know they were planning to break off relations at just the right time for a dawn attack at Pearl. Of course, not properly interpreting that info could be excused to error, but documents declassified 50 years later showed we'd also broken the military code and had been monitoring the Japanese intentions for some time.

    It will probably be 50 years before the documents are released that prove Bush or his handlers were behind the attack to get us into war in the Middle East.
  • Dwight-... Rick Armin 2012/10/21 11:59:40
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    +2
    I remember reading an article some years ago showing that Greek and Roman Priest did the same thing, both to influence the powerfull and to gain funds from the populace.

    The one thing about any real CT is that they can be neither proved nor disproved. There is always just enough ambiguity in the evidence to allow most anyone to interpret it as they please.

    Facts are not always recorded, and things that never occured never are recorded.
  • Rick Armin Dwight-... 2012/10/21 16:33:54 (edited)
    Rick Armin
    +1
    I'm losing track of time, but about 30 years ago I walked down the stairs into a friends basement to pick up some documents to take to a civic meeting. My friend never used the word conspiracy because people had been so conditioned to close their minds at the mention of the word. I was stunned. He had a 40' basement. Allowing for the stairs and some storage space for personal things, about 80% of that basement was filled with books, documents, and news clippings that would prove the existence of one or more conspiracies to anyone with an IQ over 75. Three walls were lined with bookcases with an occasional file cabinet interspersed. All were filled, many with material piled on top. In the middle were back to back commercial file cabinets. They, too, were filled to overflowing.

    Much of this he collected himself. He'd been a Conspiracy Watcher most of his adult life. Much he inherited from a Philadelphia woman, one of the original America First Committee, who had been a Watcher much of her life.

    Only crazy kooks like myself believe in the conspiracy theory of history, but only the most willfully ignorant fool could have come out of that basement still believing in the “Accidental,” “Stupidity,” or “Darwinian Natural Evolution” theories of history. The only hope I see f...

    I'm losing track of time, but about 30 years ago I walked down the stairs into a friends basement to pick up some documents to take to a civic meeting. My friend never used the word conspiracy because people had been so conditioned to close their minds at the mention of the word. I was stunned. He had a 40' basement. Allowing for the stairs and some storage space for personal things, about 80% of that basement was filled with books, documents, and news clippings that would prove the existence of one or more conspiracies to anyone with an IQ over 75. Three walls were lined with bookcases with an occasional file cabinet interspersed. All were filled, many with material piled on top. In the middle were back to back commercial file cabinets. They, too, were filled to overflowing.

    Much of this he collected himself. He'd been a Conspiracy Watcher most of his adult life. Much he inherited from a Philadelphia woman, one of the original America First Committee, who had been a Watcher much of her life.

    Only crazy kooks like myself believe in the conspiracy theory of history, but only the most willfully ignorant fool could have come out of that basement still believing in the “Accidental,” “Stupidity,” or “Darwinian Natural Evolution” theories of history. The only hope I see for mankind to avoid the deepest and darkest “New Age” that's “Dawning” is that there are more than one conspiracy working together to enslave us and that they, when they see the pie coming out of the oven, will tear each other apart for the biggest slice.

    Of course, I can't “prove” it (well, I probably could if I had the time and ambition), but I think a lot more is recorded than gets into the “history” books. I think a lot of things do get in that never occurred. For example, as has been pointed out by \IV/ in Sodahead, a small group of young Arab men, who loved women, alcohol, and money, were persuaded and directed by a sick old man hiding in a cave in Afghanistan to give their lives for a religious cause. That's what will likely be recorded in the history books. It already has.
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  • Dwight-... Rick Armin 2012/10/21 17:03:42
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    +1
    To a point you are correct, there are indeed many books and documents that prove many things. The problem with it is that there are as or nearly as many books & documents Dis-proving the same facts.

    In the end truth does not matter, even if it can be documented, because each person with the time and intelligence to read all of that information will decide for themselves What they will believe. All we know of history some one first decided should be preserved, and of that, only what survived the centurys between.
  • Rick Armin Dwight-... 2012/10/21 19:17:09
  • Dwight-... Rick Armin 2012/10/21 22:35:17
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    +1
    LMBO. That is ture enough, but most don't reconize the bs, or rs, that is a fact in media, academia, or where ever. Today especially there is such a flood of info, as opposed to earlier times when there was a lack of info from distant locations. For us, the shear weight of info puts most people off sorting.

    Or, in a way, one persons joy is anothers misery.
  • Rick Armin Dwight-... 2012/10/22 00:48:26
    Rick Armin
    +2
    My memory has to go back a long way for this, but I believe in Orwell's 1984 that was one of the ways the people were kept off balance. They were constantly inundated with "information."
  • Dwight-... Rick Armin 2012/10/25 08:50:50
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    +2
    It can be over whelming, for a time. The trouble with that is that even with the glut there are so many professionals and hobbiest sifting it all to hide much for very long. The benefit of a well educated public.

    Even so, someone is always possitive that they can bury a truth or make a lie stand. I just think neither can last for long today. The facts coming out about Bengazie being a case in point.
  • Rick Armin Dwight-... 2012/10/25 13:45:25
    Rick Armin
    +2
    I think this quote is usually attributed to Lincoln, "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Many years ago I added, "but you can fool enough of the people enough of the time." That's still true.
  • Dwight-... Rick Armin 2012/10/28 13:44:48
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    Good point. Yes, most and enough can be fooled for long enough sometimes. But only sometimes.

    Only a desperate fool will play with those odds. And yes, there are plenty of those to be found.
  • Rick Armin Dwight-... 2012/10/28 14:20:38
    Rick Armin
    +2
    I have to really dig back in my memory because I can't find my book, but I believe it was those very brief periods in human history when people understood freedom and were free that he called, "outbreaks of truth." The brief period between the Revolutionary War and Hamilton's Constitution and Bank was one of those brief periods.
  • Dwight-... Rick Armin 2012/10/28 14:24:16
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    I have heard the term, but I'm not familiar with A. Hamilton enough to comment on him other than that he was a Federalist and was willing to garner more power to the Federal Gov at the expense of States and individuals.
  • Rick Armin Dwight-... 2012/10/28 16:05:02
    Rick Armin
    +1
    Hamilton was an economic royalist who wanted to tie government to the bankers from the start. He persuaded or conspired with Washington to create our first national bank against the advice of Jefferson. Once he wielded power in government, he used it to enrich his NY banker friends through manipulations.

    He was actually a nationalist, but in one of the first American political dirty tricks, the nationalists usurped the name Federalist because they knew most people wanted a federation of the States. They were then able to label their opposition "Anti-Federalists.

    If I have time later, I'll find the ebook I have and quote the pertinent parts.
  • Dwight-... Rick Armin 2012/10/28 16:07:16
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    I would be intrested in reading that.
  • Rick Armin Dwight-... 2012/10/28 16:17:20
    Rick Armin
    +1
    Then I'll definitely try to find it. Right now I have a few more things to do on the computer and then I have to batten down the hatches and get out the candles for the hurricane we're supposed to get. We rarely get them here, so i'll have to see what I can do to minimize damages.
  • Dwight-... Rick Armin 2012/10/28 18:05:03
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    From our experience with Hugo I can tell you they are no fun. Our Peidmont region seems to be safe from this one, and I am glad. Do be carefull and we'll keep you all in our prayers.

    Please send me a message when you do find the title of that book. Hopefully I can get it on my Kindle.
  • bluejacket 2012/09/11 12:54:11
    I don't know who flew those planes into those buildings, but something doesn'...
    bluejacket
    +5
    Both sides of the argument here have valid points. People such as myself who were not witnesses have to rely on information with questionabl accuracy. As I watch the campaign for President this year, I also can consider that the candidates (both) are still lying to us, one seems to be lying more, and with the help of the media. If you cant figure out which one, you are beyond help. I have never, ever, believed the gov'ts position that Oswald acted alone, (or at all). What's changed since then? A more "transparent" and honest gov't?
  • HearMe~AFCL 2012/09/11 12:47:19 (edited)
    I don't know who flew those planes into those buildings, but something doesn'...
    HearMe~AFCL
    +4
    Yep, I'm open minded that our own was involved.
  • D D 2012/09/11 11:42:34
    Arabs flew those planes into those buildings, but the government knew in adva...
    D D
    +2
    I would say turned a blind eye. Possibly, they didn't know the actual date.

    I fully believe muslims did hijack the planes. Flew them into buildings. Beyond that I am not sure of anything. For sure things do not add up.
  • Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA 2012/09/11 09:20:19
    I don't know who flew those planes into those buildings, but something doesn'...
    Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA
    +4
    911 .was the biggest bank heist in world history. The Federal Reseve Bank of NY had $167 billion bars of gold in the basement. After the heist, they staged the terrorist attack.

    http://www.godlikeproductions...
  • BuggaBoo 2012/09/11 09:10:04
    I don't know who flew those planes into those buildings, but something doesn'...
    BuggaBoo
    +3
    I don't know who did what, but there were 19 evil hijackers that carried out a series of attacks on 9/11/01, None were affiliated with MOSSAD. Here are some of them

    Khalid al Mihdhar Nawaf al Hazmi Mohamed Atta Marwan al Shehhi Ziad Jarrah Hani Hanjour
  • hapman 2012/09/11 08:15:32 (edited)
  • Scandalf 2012/09/11 07:25:33
    Arabs flew those planes into those buildings, but the government knew in adva...
    Scandalf
    ...part of the Government knew in advance.
  • Fariborz-Zak 2012/09/11 06:44:28 (edited)
    Agents of MOSSAD flew those planes into those buildings.
    Fariborz-Zak
    +3
    1./. inside job by remote control plane

    facebook.com:PSYCHOLOGY EXPERTS SPEAK OUT: "WHY IS THE 9/11 EVIDENCE DIFFICULT FOR SOME TO ACCEPT?"

    It’s often difficult for people who are aware of the evidence for the controlled demolition of the WTC skyscrapers to understand why so many Americans are unwilling to rationally discuss this vital information. For over ten years now, 9/11 Truth advocates have been trying to get relatives, friends, and strangers to listen to the undeniable facts that point to the need for a real 9/11 investigation.

    We often encounter emotional resistance, which poses the question: “Why is the evidence so difficult for so many people to accept?”

    Licensed clinical psychologist Robert Hopper, Ph.D., explains: “9/11 Truth challenges some of our most fundamental beliefs about our government and about our country. When beliefs are challenged or when two beliefs are inconsistent, cognitive dissonance is created. 9/11 Truth challenges [our] beliefs that our country protects and keeps us safe and that America is the ‘good guy.’ When this happens, fear and anxiety are created. In response, our psychological defenses kick in [to] protect us from these emotions. Denial, which is probably the most primitive psychological defense, is the one most likely to kick in when our beliefs are challenged.”
  • yabbadabbadoo 2012/09/11 06:18:19 (edited)
    I don't know who flew those planes into those buildings, but something doesn'...
    yabbadabbadoo
  • Brian yabbada... 2012/09/13 02:56:22
    Brian
    +1
    A real telling video and it's one of my favorites!
  • yabbada... Brian 2012/09/13 03:07:39
    yabbadabbadoo
    +1
    probably the shortest, saddest, funniest, & aggravating 911 video there is
  • Brian yabbada... 2012/09/13 10:58:56
    Brian
    +1
    Yes and It gets right to the point!
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