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83% of Doctors Considered Quitting Over Obamacare: Scary?

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President Obama's Affordable Care Act (aka "Obamacare") has some doctors reconsidering if they will continue practicing medicine. The non-partisan Doctor Patient Medical Association survey of 699 doctors nationwide found that 83% considered quitting over the legislation.

Sally Nelson reports in Daily Caller that America will face a shortage of 90,000 doctors in eight years regardless if current doctors quit. The problem quickly increases to a shortage of 130,000 doctors by 2025 according to Len Marquez, the director of government relations at the American Association of Medical Colleges.

DAILYCALLER.COM reports:
Association of Medical Colleges: Even if doctors do not quit, massive shortage coming because of law


dailycaller reports association medical colleges doctors quit massive shortage law

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  • KCurtis 2012/07/10 17:49:48
    Yes
    KCurtis
    +5
    Medical Personnel shortage with Obamacare live will cause a huge impact to ability to find care. Between reductions in Medicare and the decreased in reimbursements you won't be able to find a doc. Just seeing the number of med centers who are already staffing offices in South America to continue practice outside the US after Obamacare goes into effect will scare the bejesus out of you.
  • Lee KCurtis 2012/07/10 18:19:54
    Lee
    LIAR
  • KCurtis Lee 2012/07/10 19:08:47
    KCurtis
    +4
    Good comeback, did you have help from a 5th grader?
  • Lee KCurtis 2012/07/10 19:16:48
    Lee
    I'm observant and direct.

    I hope I wasn't too blunt.

    lol . . . kidding . . . . I don't mind being blunt at all.
  • KCurtis Lee 2012/07/10 23:30:44
    KCurtis
    +1
    No I think you are just one of the dumb masses.
  • Lee KCurtis 2012/07/11 02:21:25
    Lee
    Really?

    How many masses are there?
  • Sioux KCurtis 2012/07/11 05:56:21
    Sioux
    +1
    I agree. Ignore the trolls. Goodness knows why these people keep defending Obama unless they have their hands out for freebies. Maybe they will finally see the light, when they learn what socialized medicine really means.
  • michael... Sioux 2012/07/15 05:57:27
    michael.valente.7370
    +3
    Um, decent care for all?
    Now don't forget to turn down the medicare and SS that you and your family are entitled to.
    Socialist!
  • Sioux michael... 2012/07/15 10:02:04
    Sioux
    I don't agree with those programs, so try something else! Go troll somewhere else ok?
  • michael... KCurtis 2012/07/15 05:55:06
    michael.valente.7370
    +2
    Did the US Healthcare system scare the bejesus out of you 5 years ago?
    You know, the 50 million who could not afford care......

    I am sure you have thought long and hard on how best to replace the ACA.........maybe a GOP President will tackle the problem.

    Yeah. Uh Huh.
  • KCurtis michael... 2012/07/15 11:15:07 (edited)
    KCurtis
    Sure I have and so has the GOP there are a few simple things:

    Tort Reform - but the Dems would not do that they'd lose all those contributions from the ambulance chasers.

    Allow Insurance Companies to sell across the country - but the Dems would not do that because they'd have to amend the powers of the Commerce Clause.

    Yeah. Uh Huh
  • Bastion 2012/07/10 17:47:52
    No
    Bastion
    +2
    A bogus survey by a bogus organization.

    Why don't Cons question their own beliefs when they see themselves lying?

    From a article about "Doctor Patient Medical Association":

    "The Doctor Patient Medical Association's founder, Kathryn Serkes, is a long-time veteran of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a collection of crackpot malcontents that opposes mandatory vaccinations, wrongly believes undocumented immigrants spread leprosy, and dabbled in Vince Foster conspiracy theorism. The group itself is solidly conservative in its politics: it boasts membership in the National Tea Party Federation; describes the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act as "Destruction Of Our Medicine," or DOOM; and published a sheet of talking points about the health law to help grassroots activists "beat back the White House spin machine!"

    But what about this improbable survey indicating that more than 3/4 of doctors have considered hanging up the stethoscope rather than tolerate Obamacare? Well, the first thing to point out is that the survey didn't actually ask about the Affordable Care Act. Here's the question and the results as given by DPMA:

    How do current changes in the medical system affect your desire to practice medicine?

    I'm re-energized - 4.6%

    Makes me think abou...



    A bogus survey by a bogus organization.

    Why don't Cons question their own beliefs when they see themselves lying?

    From a article about "Doctor Patient Medical Association":

    "The Doctor Patient Medical Association's founder, Kathryn Serkes, is a long-time veteran of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a collection of crackpot malcontents that opposes mandatory vaccinations, wrongly believes undocumented immigrants spread leprosy, and dabbled in Vince Foster conspiracy theorism. The group itself is solidly conservative in its politics: it boasts membership in the National Tea Party Federation; describes the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act as "Destruction Of Our Medicine," or DOOM; and published a sheet of talking points about the health law to help grassroots activists "beat back the White House spin machine!"

    But what about this improbable survey indicating that more than 3/4 of doctors have considered hanging up the stethoscope rather than tolerate Obamacare? Well, the first thing to point out is that the survey didn't actually ask about the Affordable Care Act. Here's the question and the results as given by DPMA:

    How do current changes in the medical system affect your desire to practice medicine?

    I'm re-energized - 4.6%

    Makes me think about quitting - 82.6%

    Unsure/no opinion - 12.8%

    So they're just assuming that every respondent, upon reading "current changes in the medical system," thought "Obamacare" and nothing else? Doesn't seem too likely. And when asked to give their opinion on these undefined "changes," they were given three options: super-excited, ready to quit, and "unsure." What if they were just slightly dissatisfied? Or cautiously optimistic? The survey left no room for anyone who didn't hold an extreme position."
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  • Heptarch 2012/07/10 17:32:10 (edited)
    No
    Heptarch
    +2
    Why would it be scary? Isn't it the right wing's position that the market will correct itself if left alone? If there is more demand, there will be more doctors to fill it, isn't that right?

    Personally, I find it laughable and a bit amazing that the doctors in question are upset that they'll have to work harder for their money. Suck it up, doctors. All the rest of us have to.

    Oh, and as for the notion that "Obamacare" is the cause of this, no one will be forcing those doctors to quit. If they quit, that's THEIR decision. Blaming it on Obama is ridiculous. He doesn't have a gun to their heads.

    EDIT: Having researched this a little, it seems like the entire argument is moot. It appears that the "poll" (if we're going to be generous enough to call it that) is highly suspect for a couple different reasons.
  • Sioux Heptarch 2012/07/11 05:57:45
    Sioux
    Not if the government hires them!
    Affirmative action, aka angry colored people will be in charge of our health!
    Do you want that? I sure don't!
    Have you seen the role that the IRS will play in this?
    Ever read the bill?
  • Heptarch Sioux 2012/07/11 07:22:47 (edited)
    Heptarch
    "Not if the government hires them!"

    What do you mean? Your comment doesn't make sense.

    "Affirmative action, aka angry colored people will be in charge of our health!"

    Ohhhkaaaay... Racist much?

    "Ever read the bill?"

    Probably more than you have, judging by your woeful ignorance in this post.
  • Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum 2012/07/10 17:26:59
  • gimini210 2012/07/10 16:48:40
    Yes
    gimini210
    +3
    Already we have had too many doctors in our area stop practicing as soon as Obamacare passed. Main reason they gave was that they did not want a government official telling them what they could or could not do to treat anyone due to cost effectiveness. They prefer to treat people according to need not age.
  • Ira gimini210 2012/07/10 18:17:24
    Ira
    +2
    It must be wonderful living in your uninformed world.

    1. The majority of ACA regulations haven't even kicked in yet so there has been no reason to abandon ship. They start in 2014. Only a few minor provisions have commenced.

    2. HMO and other pvt insurances have been telling MD's for 30 years what they can and cannot do with and for their patients.

    I have been an Registered Nurse for 30+ years. This is most of what I have been hoping for for most of that time.

    If you really care to learn something, try reading:
    http://www.healthcare.gov/law...
  • The Lib... Ira 2012/07/10 21:45:44 (edited)
    The Libertarian
    Why did my Government Insurance (Tricare for Life) co-pay go up 75% this month and all my prescription drugs went up another 40%, isn't government care great, it only cost me 24 years of service and some very bad disabilities, can't wait until the whole law takes effect that way I can have a 95% copay.
  • michael... Ira 2012/07/15 06:00:47
    michael.valente.7370
    +3
    Your work experience does not mean much to people who swallow the fear-mongering lies of certain media Big Mouths.
  • Lee gimini210 2012/07/10 18:20:20
  • Nick Name gimini210 2012/07/10 18:53:22
    Nick Name
    +1
    As soon as it passed doctors started quitting?
    C'mon, you need a better lie than that.
  • Sioux Nick Name 2012/07/11 05:58:57 (edited)
    Sioux
    And spy drones aren't out and about either, are they?
  • Nick Name Sioux 2012/07/11 19:33:10
    Nick Name
    Drones prove doctors are quitting? What?
    Did the drones tell you about the doctors?
  • michael... gimini210 2012/07/15 05:59:04
    michael.valente.7370
    +1
    People are treated according to $$$$$
  • WF - Rumpelstiltskin -PWCM~JLA 2012/07/10 16:34:31
    No
    WF - Rumpelstiltskin -PWCM~JLA
    My mother already had planned her retirement from seeing patients.
  • derek 2012/07/10 16:30:57 (edited)
    Yes
    derek
    +3
    One more nail in the coffin for America. Hard to believe so many citizens are willing to be led like sheep OUT of thier FREEDOMS and INTO a SOCIALIST nightmare. These "AMERICANS" have no idea what that word even means..
  • Racefish 2012/07/10 16:26:49
    Yes
    Racefish
    +2
    Don't say we didn't warn you. Hey, all you Liberals can go to Canada for health care if you can't find a doctor here.
  • Maddog 2012/07/10 16:22:21 (edited)
    Yes
    Maddog
    +2
    I wish one of moronic lefties that frequent SodaHead would explain to me how adding millions of people to the healthcare system, with a diminishing number of doctors, is going to improve healthcare in America.
  • Jeff Smith 2012/07/10 16:20:45
    Yes
    Jeff Smith
    +1
    My Doctor of many years quit the day he signed the bill. The Office he worked from all the American Doctors quit and I stopped going since my last visit. Now that office employ's Doctors who can barely speak or understand English. My last visit included a translator from India. This is what Obama has in mind for the rest of us as well.
  • Lee Jeff Smith 2012/07/10 18:20:40
  • Nick Name Jeff Smith 2012/07/10 18:54:32 (edited)
    Nick Name
    +2
    Wow. Seems like the conservatives on SH have had more Doctors quit because of Obamacare than any group of people I've ever heard of.
    All these victims just happen to cluster here.........., strange.
  • Zeruke 2012/07/10 16:11:48
    No
    Zeruke
    +1
    for one it's only 699 doctors servery so I highly doubt its very accurate..... another thing we already have a very high shortage of doctors as it is especially when you can go into a hospital and have to sit there for at least 2 hours for a 10min visit for stitches

    and then when just going to a regular doctor office you have to wait hours just for a 20min check up

    the act itself doesn't cause the shortage because the shortage is already here and every time another person is born or comes to the US the shortage becomes bigger
  • gr8punkin 2012/07/10 16:02:04
    Yes
    gr8punkin
    I personally know of several doctors who are considering early retirement. Just consider if 10% of the doctors left, while adding so many more people into the health care system.
  • Lee gr8punkin 2012/07/10 18:20:50
  • gr8punkin Lee 2012/07/10 18:28:09
    gr8punkin
    My father is a retired doctor, and I worked in his office through high school and college. I met a great many of his colleagues through those years, and even call many of them friends. I didn't say they are retiring, just that they are considering it
    I'm sorry that the truth bothers you, but to call me a liar in that fashion shows you to have little grasp on reality. You probably assume that all people who don't like Obama's policies are racially motivated.
  • Lee gr8punkin 2012/07/10 18:39:56
    Lee
    +1
    Uh huh . . . And it's the Affordable Care Act that is making them want to retire?

    BS
  • gr8punkin Lee 2012/07/10 18:45:38
    gr8punkin
    being essentially forced into accepting medicare, yes it is. Why would they want to have those limitations placed upon them?
  • Nick Name Lee 2012/07/10 19:01:24
    Nick Name
    +1
    All this 'first hand' 'insider knowledge' that explains why another Liberal effort is actually not only not helping, but damaging.......... I sense a specific pattern of lies.
  • Charge 2012/07/10 15:53:09
    Yes
    Charge
    +2
    Unintended consequences? Remeber they had to pass it to read it, and it's ALL a Democrat Bill....
    obama double fail

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