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$770 Million Foreign Aid to Rebuild Overseas Mosques

Southern Man 2012/12/13 20:13:43
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It is time to review our overseas foreign aid.


  1. Egypt is controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood yet we have increased our foreign aid to them under the Obama administration.
  2. We provide money to Indonesian students wishing to get Masters degrees.
  3. And in this video, $770 Million to rebuild overseas mosques.

The Obama administration has made a valiant attempt to rebuild our
relationship with the Muslim world. But this is not how you do it.


This is a new form of appeasement that has to stop. It needs to be addressed immediately by our next President.

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  • Striker 2012/12/13 22:13:17
    This has got to stop
    Striker
    +7
    Nowhere within the constitution would this be authorized.
    But what can the people do about it? Little or nothing.
    Well, *maybe* after several years in the government's "justice system", LOL

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  • CuresCancer 2012/12/14 19:01:22
    This has got to stop
    CuresCancer
    +1
    While the benighted left thinks rebuilding Mosques endears us to the Islamists, to their way of thinking, what we are doing is an act of of submission, sort of like how a spousal abuser sees kindness or acquiescence as submission.

    Furthermore, it's our damn money! Our money should be refunded to us rather than misusing it this way.
  • patriot88000 2012/12/14 18:39:04
    This has got to stop
    patriot88000
    +1
    The American people expect to receive something for what they are paying for in government, how is this money being justified for American people paying for Mosques being built overseas with our taxpayers dollars, what are the American taxpayers getting out of this money being wrongly spent? How about Charging the State Department officials with misappropriations of TAXPAYERS DOLLARS, and seeing members of the State Department who authorized this Appropriation of over $770,000,000.00 to go to rebuild overseas Mosques, prosecuted and imprisoned for misappropriations of taxpayers money.
    This is defrauding the United States Taxpayers. as this does not benefit the taxpayers in any manner. The United States is the Laughing Stock of the world, and especially the Muslim Communities and countries.
  • frank 2012/12/14 18:19:33
    All I can say is
    frank
    +2
    That is wrong, just plain wrong. That is one project that should be canceled. I'm not allowed to say how I really feel.
  • Souther... frank 2012/12/14 20:00:23
    Southern Man
    Yes you can let it rip
  • Bonita Colley 2012/12/14 16:00:24
    This has got to stop
    Bonita Colley
    +2
    Nothing like spitting in the faces of our troops who were sent to the middle east for our "freedom"! Just goes to show our own central government is the center of our own destruction! Can't just blame the prez, you better be looking at our defacto congress!
  • hatter Bonita ... 2012/12/25 03:59:26
    hatter
    That's freekin right. I complaned to my congess man about bengazi and told him to stop aid to muslim countries. He just said no way. Jeff merkly Oregon. What a dick.
  • goatman112003 2012/12/14 09:55:53
    This has got to stop
    goatman112003
    +2
    We rebuild mosques but the churches the Muslims destroyed we don't do a thing for.
  • cut and paste king 2012/12/14 09:42:20
    All I can say is
    cut and paste king
    +1
    A mass e-mail sent out by the Christian, conservative American Family Association claims that Obama is giving foreign aid to overseas mosques.

    Obama gives your tax dollars to rebuild Muslim mosques around the world. While millions of Americans struggle to keep their homes and jobs, President Barack Obama can’t give your tax dollars away fast enough. ⬐ Click to expand/collapse the full text ⬏

    FULL ANSWER

    Although this chain e-mail first appeared months ago, we have received a large number of inquiries about it recently, as Congress debates cuts in federal spending. It started when the American Family Association sent an e-mail to supporters and posted an item on its website claiming that "Obama gives your tax dollars to rebuild Muslim mosques around the world."

    The message points to a State Department document that lists recipients of the U.S. Ambassadors Fund for Cultural Preservation Awards in 2010. According to the State Department website, the Ambassadors Fund for Cultural Preservation "provides direct grant support for the preservation of cultural sites, cultural objects, and collections, as well as forms of traditional cultural expression, in eligible countries around the world." U.S. ambassadors nominate projects to be funded.

    But the program isn’t the brainchild o...







    A mass e-mail sent out by the Christian, conservative American Family Association claims that Obama is giving foreign aid to overseas mosques.

    Obama gives your tax dollars to rebuild Muslim mosques around the world. While millions of Americans struggle to keep their homes and jobs, President Barack Obama can’t give your tax dollars away fast enough. ⬐ Click to expand/collapse the full text ⬏

    FULL ANSWER

    Although this chain e-mail first appeared months ago, we have received a large number of inquiries about it recently, as Congress debates cuts in federal spending. It started when the American Family Association sent an e-mail to supporters and posted an item on its website claiming that "Obama gives your tax dollars to rebuild Muslim mosques around the world."

    The message points to a State Department document that lists recipients of the U.S. Ambassadors Fund for Cultural Preservation Awards in 2010. According to the State Department website, the Ambassadors Fund for Cultural Preservation "provides direct grant support for the preservation of cultural sites, cultural objects, and collections, as well as forms of traditional cultural expression, in eligible countries around the world." U.S. ambassadors nominate projects to be funded.

    But the program isn’t the brainchild of President Barack Obama. The program was created by Congress in late 2000 under President Bill Clinton, and the first grants were announced under President George W. Bush in 2001. The State Department says that, in total, the fund has contributed nearly $26 million to approximately 640 cultural heritage sites in more than 100 countries, and more than half was given before Obama took office.

    It’s true that mosques are among the cultural sites that have received grant money under this program. But temples and churches around the world also have received funding, contrary to AFA’s claim that the "secular left" would be upset if "these monies had been spent to repair Christian churches." When we searched the State Department’s database and lists of 2009 and 2010 projects for "mosque" and "minaret," we found that 30 mosques or minaret restoration projects had received funding under Bush, and seven such sites had been funded under Obama. Also, 29 projects for churches and cathedrals were funded under Bush and 13 under Obama. Those totals do not represent all Christian or Islamic historical and cultural sites, however — our search for "mosque," for instance wouldn’t pull up funding for an Islamic monument or conservation of ancient manuscripts, and our search for "church" didn’t pull up restoration of convents or monasteries. Plus — as anyone who has visited the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul or the Mezquita, a mosque and cathedral in Cordoba, Spain, could tell you — there are many ancient sites that were Islamic and Christian places of worship at different points in time. In fact, our searches of "mosque" and "church" both pulled up the $33,455 awarded to the 14th century Mosque of Old Dongola in Sudan, which was a church in the 9th century. And one of the "cathedral" projects in Uganda under Bush was the documentation of "historic buildings," including "cultural sites, unique architectural designs, cathedrals, Hindu temples, mosques, state buildings and ancestral homes," according to the State Department database.

    The AFA e-mail points out that the State Department gave $76,000 to help restore a 16th century mosque in China in 2010 (the amount was $76,135), but it doesn’t mention that the document it links to also lists $72,600 that went to an Episcopal basilica in Macedonia to help with the conservation of early Christian frescoes. AFA says that a mosque in Pakistan got $67,000 — actually it was $67,500 — but doesn’t mention an $81,990 grant for "Restoration of the Late 17th‐Century Church of the Icon of the Mother of God of the Sign" in the Russian Federation, or $94,827 to restore a high altar and cloister of an 18th century convent in Guatemala City. Among the State Department’s "large grants" is $625,000 for the Church of the Holy Redeemer in Turkey.

    The AFA says that the Associated Press reported on this program to fund cultural sites, including mosques. And the AP did report in August that "the Obama administration will spend nearly $6 million to restore 63 historic and cultural sites, including mosques and minarets, in 55 nations, according to State Department documents." But that article cast the mosque-funding as "part of the U.S. government’s efforts to reach out to the Muslim world," and the AP said the amount spent on Muslim sites was a "fraction of the total" given to worldwide cultural sites.

    AP, Aug. 24, 2010: The amount spent on mosque restoration projects is a fraction of the total in the 2010 Ambassadors Fund for Cultural Preservation, which also will fund projects to restore Christian and Buddhist sites as well as museums, forts and palaces.
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  • patriot... cut and... 2012/12/14 18:52:48
    patriot88000
    +1
    All of this is totally irrelevant, we need to stop all of these Financial Aid Programs that take tax dollars out of the United States, taxpayers are forced to pay taxes using Extortion and the threat of violence by the Government and loss of Freedom against them if they don't pay, and to use these forced collection of tax dollars to fund Foreign Nations rebuilding of Mosques, Churches, or any other types of buildings not related to our Military establishments is just plain wrong.

    All Foreign Aid should immediately be halted. All Taxes collected should remain in the United States only, If private individuals wish to contribute to the rebuilding of Mosques, Churches or any other buildings in a Foreign Nation, a Charity could be established with Private Donations for that purpose.
  • cut and... patriot... 2012/12/14 19:43:27
    cut and paste king
    +2
    Agree all foreingn aid stop immediatly
  • shadow76 2012/12/14 08:38:47
    This has got to stop
    shadow76
    Boehner better STOP this or we should impeach HIM!
  • Scully+MulderWereRight 2012/12/14 06:46:10
    All I can say is
    Scully+MulderWereRight
    Here is the link to the WSBTV ch2 news story about this. It was originally broadcast in Nov of 2010! More than two years ago.
    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/new...

    Here is the link to Fact Check, which looked into the allegation in Mar of 2011! More than a year-and-a-half ago.

    "(Fact Check) spoke with a USAID official, who told us that the Cairo sewer project, which did total about $770 million, began in 1984 and ended in 2006....The USAID official said, "A high level of groundwater, resulting in part from leaking sewers and the rise and fall of the Nile, had been threatening the structural integrity of many of the buildings in this area. USAID did not pick and choose which buildings to rescue, based on religious or any other criteria. Rather, the broad effort was intended to improve the sewage system for everyone."
    http://www.factcheck.org/2011...



    Here are links to two pictures of the results of the USAID dollars that the WSBTV story alludes to; one of a Greek Orthodox Church and one of an ancient Roman tower that benefitted from the USAID money, in addition to the mosque mentioned in the WSB story. The pictures are dated July 20, 2009.

    http://transition.usaid.gov/s...
    http://transition.usaid.gov/s...

    Mark Twain is supposed to have said, "A lie can circle the globe three ti...

    Here is the link to the WSBTV ch2 news story about this. It was originally broadcast in Nov of 2010! More than two years ago.
    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/new...

    Here is the link to Fact Check, which looked into the allegation in Mar of 2011! More than a year-and-a-half ago.

    "(Fact Check) spoke with a USAID official, who told us that the Cairo sewer project, which did total about $770 million, began in 1984 and ended in 2006....The USAID official said, "A high level of groundwater, resulting in part from leaking sewers and the rise and fall of the Nile, had been threatening the structural integrity of many of the buildings in this area. USAID did not pick and choose which buildings to rescue, based on religious or any other criteria. Rather, the broad effort was intended to improve the sewage system for everyone."
    http://www.factcheck.org/2011...



    Here are links to two pictures of the results of the USAID dollars that the WSBTV story alludes to; one of a Greek Orthodox Church and one of an ancient Roman tower that benefitted from the USAID money, in addition to the mosque mentioned in the WSB story. The pictures are dated July 20, 2009.

    http://transition.usaid.gov/s...
    http://transition.usaid.gov/s...

    Mark Twain is supposed to have said, "A lie can circle the globe three times before the truth can get its shoes on."

    In the age of the internet, however, the lie never really goes away, it just gets reposted somewhere else (this is the third SH posting of this particular tale I've seen in two days).
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  • TidBit 2012/12/14 05:54:41
    This has got to stop
    TidBit
    +2
    seriously, is ANYBODY surprised? Obama gives guns to Al-Quada and mexican drug lords all the while doing everything in his power to take them from law abiding Americans...so sending millions of OUR tax dollars (in the middle of a huge recession no less) to build mosques overseas is shocking to anyone?! The man proves at every turn that he is against the American people (but at least half the country ignorantly voted him in a second term)....pffft.
  • Icanbean Arschloch 2012/12/14 04:48:20
    This has got to stop
    Icanbean  Arschloch
    +3
    You would never see Obama put a nickel into one of our Christian Churches.
  • hatter 2012/12/14 04:47:12
    This has got to stop
    hatter
    +1
    America is broken. The people are split. And I blame demacrats with the communist ideas.
  • patriot... hatter 2012/12/24 19:55:21
    patriot88000
    +1
    Actually, I blame both the Democrips and Rebloodlicans for the mess our nation is in because those are the two political Parties that have had a Control over our nation for over the past 150 years.
    No, that was not a miss spelling of the party names, that was deliberate because both Political Parties act like Gangs protecting their own turf, accept bribes from Corporations, accept bribes from Lobbyists equally, and in almost every vote on Proposed Bills, virtually every politician votes straight party line with few exceptions. This voting pattern and the bribes they accept from Corporations and Lobbyists which are nothing more than Special Interest Groups shows that the Political Parties place Party, Corporations, and Special Interests Groups over the needs of the American people, and actual Representation 2nd.
  • Flamingolady 2012/12/14 04:43:31
    This has got to stop
    Flamingolady
    +1
    I say send this instead: Bombing Mosques
  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/12/14 03:54:54
    This has got to stop
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +3
    We need to stop supporting our enemies with money.
  • jumpboots 187th PIR 2012/12/14 03:17:10
    This has got to stop
    jumpboots 187th PIR
    +4
    This is just the beginning. He just gave ok giving 20 F-16 to the brotherhood. f 16
  • sbtbill jumpboo... 2012/12/14 04:18:24
    sbtbill
    Giving or selling?
  • jumpboo... sbtbill 2012/12/14 23:10:11
    jumpboots 187th PIR
    +2
    CLOSE



    Obama gives Egypt taxpayer-funded F-16s
    Full story: www.jihadwatch.org

    Instability in Egypt, where a newly-elected Islamic government teeters over an angry population, isn't enough to stop the U.S. from sending more than 20 F-16 fighter jets, as part of a $1 billion foreign aid package ...
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    |Report Abuse |Judge it! |#1 Tuesday Dec 11
    from jihadwatch:

    "A Pentagon spokesman said the U.S. and Egypt have an important alliance that is furthered by the transfer."

    "'The U.S.-Egypt defense relationship has served as the cornerstone of our broader strategic partnership for over thirty years,' said Lt. Col. Wesley Miller.'The delivery of the first set of F-16s in January 2013 reflects the U.S. commitment to supporting the Egyptian military's modernization efforts. Egyptian acquisition of F-16s will increase our militaries' interoperability, and enhance Egypt's capacity to contribute to regional mission sets."

    Only if those mission sets include attacking Israel!

    How can Col. Miller claim that Egypt is still
    a strategic partner of the US when the Obama admin can't even determine if the Morsi-led Egypt is still an American ally in the ME?
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    Obama gives Egypt taxpayer-funded F-16s
    Full story: www.jihadwatch.org

    Instability in Egypt, where a newly-elected Islamic government teeters over an angry population, isn't enough to stop the U.S. from sending more than 20 F-16 fighter jets, as part of a $1 billion foreign aid package ...
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    |Report Abuse |Judge it! |#1 Tuesday Dec 11
    from jihadwatch:

    "A Pentagon spokesman said the U.S. and Egypt have an important alliance that is furthered by the transfer."

    "'The U.S.-Egypt defense relationship has served as the cornerstone of our broader strategic partnership for over thirty years,' said Lt. Col. Wesley Miller.'The delivery of the first set of F-16s in January 2013 reflects the U.S. commitment to supporting the Egyptian military's modernization efforts. Egyptian acquisition of F-16s will increase our militaries' interoperability, and enhance Egypt's capacity to contribute to regional mission sets."

    Only if those mission sets include attacking Israel!

    How can Col. Miller claim that Egypt is still
    a strategic partner of the US when the Obama admin can't even determine if the Morsi-led Egypt is still an American ally in the ME?
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  • Chris 2012/12/14 02:57:25 (edited)
    This has got to stop
    Chris
    +3
    These aren't hospitals or schools... at least those would provide a service to the communities they are in... nevertheless, these are not our countries, that is our tax money, we have enough problems at home right now we need to focus on. Once all those problems are solved, then we can be generous to help others.
  • Lerro DeHazel 2012/12/14 02:24:56
    This has got to stop
    Lerro DeHazel
    I think that the Leaders of our Country have just about decided that We Don't Need Another Nine-Eleven! . . . Now, if they can only keep begging these Ragheads to not "beat us up" any more . . . Then who knows? . . . We might get out of this without having them kick our own asses, again; as they did on Nine-Eleven!! . . .
  • NightRyder 2012/12/14 01:38:13
    All I can say is
    NightRyder
    +4
    Treason; Amendment 1
    (Ratified December 15, 1791)
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

    Laws that extend aid to Mosques, Churches, or any religious group would indeed be regarded as a religious Law. Therefore, it is a breach of amendment 10 and 11 as well;

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    "The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State."
  • KCurtis 2012/12/14 01:20:44
    This has got to stop
    KCurtis
    +3
    Gee what ever happened to the division of Church and State? I guess it only applies to us Christians.
  • Souther... KCurtis 2012/12/14 02:46:54
    Southern Man
    +3
    I was thinking that also ...
  • Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning 2012/12/14 01:12:51
    This has got to stop
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +2
    Thats why he wants more taxes and no cuts. I notice no money to re-build the christian churches in Kenya where his muslim Arab cousin is burning them down with men,women and children in them.
  • ed 2012/12/14 01:09:53
    All I can say is
    ed
    +3
    obama and this administration SUCKS
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/12/14 00:58:38
    This has got to stop
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +5
    The mosque angle is worse. But it's enough to say that if our government can afford this, they don't need more taxes.
  • ed Temlako... 2012/12/14 01:11:33
    ed
    +3
    I agree and I also think the politicans need to know this isn't going to work or help this country in any way.
  • Broken 2012/12/13 22:26:30
    This has got to stop
    Broken
    +4
    End all foreign aid, especialy to Islamic countries.
  • Marek 2012/12/13 22:20:00
    This has got to stop
    Marek
    +3
    Use that money to blow the damn mosques up all over middle east instead.
  • Striker 2012/12/13 22:13:17
    This has got to stop
    Striker
    +7
    Nowhere within the constitution would this be authorized.
    But what can the people do about it? Little or nothing.
    Well, *maybe* after several years in the government's "justice system", LOL
  • Souther... Striker 2012/12/13 22:17:33
  • Striker Souther... 2012/12/13 22:20:20
    Striker
    +7
    Our Rulers are now almost totally free to abuse citizens in any way they choose.

    Amerika is now a living nightmare.
  • johnpar 2012/12/13 22:02:50
    This has got to stop
    johnpar
    +5
    This is great - the USA is BROKE and borrowing $.64 of every dollar spent and precious money is being wasted to rebuild mosques for people that hate us??? WTF???
  • Souther... johnpar 2012/12/13 22:13:17
    Southern Man
    +3
    Yep Crazy I feel the same way you do
  • TheBadOne 2012/12/13 22:02:00
    All I can say is
    TheBadOne
    +1
    We pay for socialism, but we sure as hell don't get it.
  • Theresa 2012/12/13 21:55:31
    This has got to stop
    Theresa
    +4
    This is another example which should have been raised in the Election!
  • Souther... Theresa 2012/12/13 22:14:06
    Southern Man
    +3
    Yep ... Romney sure did fall short in the Debates

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