7 Things Democrats Would Have Freaked Out About If Bush Had Done Them.
7 Things Democrats Would Have Freaked Out About If Bush Had Done Them
Obama’s national security policy has continued some of the
most controversial moves of the Bush Administration. Silence from much
of the left.
1. Democrats fought George W. Bush’s troop surge in Iraq in 2006.
2. American deaths in Afghanistan have skyrocketed since Obama took office.
3. President Obama’s drones and special operators are working down “Kill Lists” of suspected terrorists.
4. Drone attacks have risen sharply under Obama.
5. In Pakistan alone the administration has launched over 300 drone strikes.
6. Obama promised to end the Bush era torture interrogation practices.
7. Obama was unable to deliver on his pledge to close the Guantanamo
Bay detention center, which Bush had also said he would close.
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Goducks5 2013/02/17 02:02:48
This is a drone
2 Drone strike to murder US citizen, another strike 2 weeks later to murder his 16 year old Detroit native son.
3 Bombing Libya with out congressional approval.
4 No budget in over 4 years.
5 Refusing to investigate or prosecute voter intimidation and vote fraud.
6 Benghazi
7 meddling in the cases of Gates, Zimmerman and others.
8 Questions about birth certificate, and SSN that does not pass E Verify .
9 Suing Az for enforcing laws the Feds aren't.
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Down with authoritarian fascist Statists no matter their slogan..
If it wasn't for double standards the left would have no standards at all.
Yes, Obama supporters are quite hypocritical.
i could come up with a list about republicans to such as Reagan's administration passed more restrictive gun laws than any other administration yet most republicans are yelling at obama about his gun control
1) Obama did try to close Gitmo, but the GOP suddenly started terrifying everyone with tales of mass escapes of terrorists from US prisons (even though not one of the 300 or so currently in US prisons has ever escaped), and claiming there'd be terrorist attacks at their trials (despite the fact there've been dozens of trials of terrorists in US courts in the last 5-8 years without a single terrorist attack)...
2) Obama did end torture interrogation practices.
3) Yep, you're right, he's expanded use of drones. And leading the charge against him on that have been those same liberals and Democrats you're criticizing. For example, its been the ACLU fighting to force production of legal support for Obama's killing of TWO Americans without indictment or trial (and yes, I'm a liberal)...
4) Don't know what to say about Afghanistan...Obama hardly is to blame for the Taliban/al-Quada fighting harder than before, but Obama has been keeping to his promise to withdraw our troops from Afghanistan within another 1-2 years. If you recall, especially over Iraq, for several years Bush and Co. were literally promising to keep hundreds of thousands of US troops in country for, well, they refused to say how long except it was likely to be decades...
2) You really think that? REALLY?!
3) He has what has been called a "kill list", which apparently he has ultimate authority over. You think Bush would have gotten away with that? The media rolls their eyes that someone would attack Obama for having a "kill list." I am happy you admit the ACLU is nothing more than a liberal attack machine, though. Also, right-wing people are very much against domestic drone use. To my knowledge, the Red states are the only ones drafting legislation to prevent their usage.
4) Isn't this really just another way to blame Bush? Deaths are up under Obama. That's the end of it.
2) Yes.
3) Of course Bush would have gotten away with it. Hell, he may have but we simply don't know (Obama's been more open than Bush/Cheney ever were, and the GOP have been far more demanding on info from Obama -- as they were with Clinton in the WH -- than Democrats were with Bush).
I never admitted the ACLU was a "liberal attack machine." THat's apparently your bias speaking. But I'm glad you admit that "liberals" are attacking Obama!! LOL!!!
Yes, Red States are passing laws against drone usage...because Red States are literally pathologically paranoid when a Democrat is in the White House (I'd have said they're paranoid about the Federal Gov't, but the Bush years made clear their paranoia is about who is in the WH, not what the gov't actually does). I saw how freaked out they got when they heard the EPA could save millions by flying drones over farms and plants that were suspected of pollution, doing a better job enforcing the law at a lower cost. When you're a Republican today, you absolutely cannot have that!!!
4) Deaths are up under Obama? Seriously?? You really that?
Per iCasual...
2) Yes.
3) Of course Bush would have gotten away with it. Hell, he may have but we simply don't know (Obama's been more open than Bush/Cheney ever were, and the GOP have been far more demanding on info from Obama -- as they were with Clinton in the WH -- than Democrats were with Bush).
I never admitted the ACLU was a "liberal attack machine." THat's apparently your bias speaking. But I'm glad you admit that "liberals" are attacking Obama!! LOL!!!
Yes, Red States are passing laws against drone usage...because Red States are literally pathologically paranoid when a Democrat is in the White House (I'd have said they're paranoid about the Federal Gov't, but the Bush years made clear their paranoia is about who is in the WH, not what the gov't actually does). I saw how freaked out they got when they heard the EPA could save millions by flying drones over farms and plants that were suspected of pollution, doing a better job enforcing the law at a lower cost. When you're a Republican today, you absolutely cannot have that!!!
4) Deaths are up under Obama? Seriously?? You really that?
Per iCasualties.org, US fatalities in Iraq in 2008 = 314, 2009 = 149, in 2012 = 1
In Afghanistan, fatalities began rising in 2006, peaked in 2010, and have been declining since (2006 - 98, 2007 - 117, 2008 - 155, 2009 - 317, 2010 - 499, 2011 - 418, 2012 - 310, 2013 so far - 3). He inherited the Afghan surge, supported it, and now is keeping his promise to withdraw by 2014.
2: Obama used intel gained from water boarding to get Osama and the dems were fine with that. We do not know at this time if those interrogation techniques are still used dince Obama controls the media.
3: Obama did use drones to kill American citizens without regard to the law of the land. We are agreed on that. For that alone he should be impeached and tried.
4: Yes, you are right. Obama did surrender in both Iraq and Afganistan He succeeded in turning a bad situation into an even worse situation not only by that surrender, but by arming enemies in several countries that resulted in the loss of several key allies in the region. Both of his poorly thought out surrenders has done more to destabilize the entire Middle East, and has resulted in stabilization problems in Africa as well.
2) BS! We waterboarded KSM 154 times, and he never gave us anything of use against Osama bin-Laden. Even Rumsfeld is on record admitting it was surveillance, not torture that lead to bin-Laden.
3) Yep agreed...of course, I thought Bush deserved impeachment for knowingly and needlessly getting thousands of Americans killed in a needless war in Iraq, so in that respect I'd say both Presidents have done a terrible job. Though I'd point out, when one President expands his "imperial" rights and Congress lets him get away with it, you can count on subsequ...
2) BS! We waterboarded KSM 154 times, and he never gave us anything of use against Osama bin-Laden. Even Rumsfeld is on record admitting it was surveillance, not torture that lead to bin-Laden.
3) Yep agreed...of course, I thought Bush deserved impeachment for knowingly and needlessly getting thousands of Americans killed in a needless war in Iraq, so in that respect I'd say both Presidents have done a terrible job. Though I'd point out, when one President expands his "imperial" rights and Congress lets him get away with it, you can count on subsequent Presidents exercising the same "imperial" rights. The GOP Congress let Bush get away with a ton of illegal crap, and now there is no way to rein in Obama without obvious extreme hypocrisy by the right.
4) More nonsensical BS driven by blind hatred of Obama...Surrender? Seriously? For doing what Bush planned to do? Do you then admit Bush surrendered Iraq? If not, you're a hypocrite.
I do, however agree with you that Obama has gone way farther than Bush ever did. He has gone way too far in fact.
What would that have been?
As far as Afghanistan is concerned, as far as I'm concerned, the victory was in getting (dead or trial) Osama bin-Laden, and Obama was successful.
And let's be clear - my problem with Obama is only on use of drones to kill Americans...
But before you get too worked up over Obama alone, read http://www.alternet.org/civil... in which a liberal group frequently critical of Obama, detail that Ford/Carter took a lot of trouble to end assassinations by covert US groups, only to have Reagan reestablish a policy of killing "enemies", which sometimes included Americans. Subsequent Presidents of both parties have continued the policy. Where Obama differs is in being more open and transparent about what he's doing.
So I guess we should give him credit for greater honesty and transparency than many previous Presidents (particularly Bush).
Everything that Obama is doing........ if it were bush doing the same thing........you would have nothing to say.....it would be all good.......2 faced.
Stupid you gave me the clue........and don't go trying to flex up on somebody, sit your furry little ass down and take a pill, relax your blood presure before you explode. Save the drama for your mama........ Punk ass Libtard.......I'M NOT.
Republicans were quite when Bush enacted Medicare Part D and No Child Left Behind, and some were silent on TARP.
Democrats are silent whenever we mention Obama's drone strikes.
I am really disgusted that we still have TSA and the Patriot Act.