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  • ComeOnNow 2012/09/18 11:52:00
    Some people will sell themselves really cheap
    ComeOnNow
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    I do not see the democrats on here demanding to pay for anything. Obama's brother lives in a shack as he lectures us about charity. Clearly it is time for a flat tax, no exemptions for anyone or any business. You know, actually treat everyone equally. That way all the democrats actually have to contribute to all these programs they pretend to care about. We know you just want hand outs and are willing to bankrupt the entire country for them. Look how they cried about even paying for their own social security. Here is an idea, if NOBODY wants to pay for it, it is not that important and needs to be eliminated.

     That is because they have a huge percentage of the population dependent on the government for hand outs and jobs. The same thing you democrats are trying to do to this country. You imbeciles are pushing the same exact failed policies that destroyed Europe. How about instead of sudden and forced austerity because we are bankrupt, we actually say hey you lazy able bodied bums and corrupt businesses and countries, we are done giving you hand outs. We cannot afford them. You have “X” years to get a job and then you are off the government dole? Why do we have to wait until the democrats failed policies bankrupt us for piddly things like birth control that should clearly be up...

    I do not see the democrats on here demanding to pay for anything. Obama's brother lives in a shack as he lectures us about charity. Clearly it is time for a flat tax, no exemptions for anyone or any business. You know, actually treat everyone equally. That way all the democrats actually have to contribute to all these programs they pretend to care about. We know you just want hand outs and are willing to bankrupt the entire country for them. Look how they cried about even paying for their own social security. Here is an idea, if NOBODY wants to pay for it, it is not that important and needs to be eliminated.

     That is because they have a huge percentage of the population dependent on the government for hand outs and jobs. The same thing you democrats are trying to do to this country. You imbeciles are pushing the same exact failed policies that destroyed Europe. How about instead of sudden and forced austerity because we are bankrupt, we actually say hey you lazy able bodied bums and corrupt businesses and countries, we are done giving you hand outs. We cannot afford them. You have “X” years to get a job and then you are off the government dole? Why do we have to wait until the democrats failed policies bankrupt us for piddly things like birth control that should clearly be up to the individual.

    Obama is the president of stealing. Democrats should just change their name to the party of Jealous Thieves. Every time Obama speaks he vilifies those that actually pay taxes and promises more hand outs to buy votes from the thieves. it has become the entire platform of the crooks.
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  • Patent1 mrk5panzer 2012/09/19 20:46:18 (edited)
    Patent1
    Here is who don't pay taxes the most. You will notice that the deep south, the repug and teabuger base, don't pay taxes more than anybody else.

    http://www.denverpost.com/pol...
  • mrk5panzer Patent1 2012/09/19 21:00:12
    mrk5panzer
    +1
    Again you base your information from a super left lib site. I mean come on, the Denverpost a lib paper is your source of info. Wake up!
  • Racefish 2012/09/18 13:55:11
    Some people will sell themselves really cheap
    Racefish
    +1
    The truth hurts.
  • Patent1 Racefish 2012/09/19 02:52:47
    Patent1
    For the repugs and teabugers maybe. Michele Bachmann started the 47% lie. Half are retired elderly people, and the other half are veterans who can't find a job.
  • ordman 2012/09/18 13:45:03
    Some people will sell themselves really cheap
    ordman
    +2
    Mitt Romney told a group of donors in a secretly taped video that 47% of Americans will vote for President Obama because they are "dependent upon government" and "believe that they are victims."
    Translation: President Obama has bought 47% of the vote in the upcoming election and while I would like receive some of those votes I’m not willing to have the other 53% of the American people pay the price it would take for me to get those votes.
  • mrk5panzer ordman 2012/09/18 13:59:08
    mrk5panzer
    +1
    The sad fact is that he is using your tax dollars to do it with. Boy have we been played!
  • Patent1 ordman 2012/09/19 02:54:17
  • ID51 2012/09/18 13:36:00
    Some people will sell themselves really cheap
    ID51
    +4
    We've turned into a "nanny state." People expect handouts and feel entitled to be taken care of. No personal responsibility....
  • Ukie 2012/09/18 13:35:05
    Some people will sell themselves really cheap
    Ukie
    +3
    This is the America that obama wants and is the foundation for his "tranformation". Interesting corollary.....a nation of dependency!! america obama foundation tranformation interesting corollary nation dependency obama nation of dependency america obama foundation tranformation interesting corollary nation dependency obama nation of dependency obama nation of dependency obama nation of dependency
  • mich52 Ukie 2012/09/18 14:39:19
    mich52
    +1
    Its called an effect of a past recession..
  • Ukie mich52 2012/09/19 01:53:14
    Ukie
    Oh boy, you need to get a grip on reality. You obviouly have no understanding of what this election is really about!
  • mich52 Ukie 2012/09/19 05:12:45
    mich52
    +1
    Coming from someone who post stupid pictures that means alot..
  • Ukie mich52 2012/09/19 13:21:04
    Ukie
    Buzz off....you have nothing to offer!!
  • mich52 Ukie 2012/09/19 21:55:54
    mich52
    LMAO.
  • Patent1 Ukie 2012/09/19 20:48:56
    Patent1
    You forgot this one. Its the repugs and teabugers who don't pay taxes.

    http://www.denverpost.com/pol...
  • Ukie Patent1 2012/09/20 01:39:55
    Ukie
    "If" he is re-elected; it will be because of the likes of you and we will "all" be screwed. What will you say then if you're so smart. I'm betting you won't have much to say except "How could I be so stupid"!
  • Patent1 Ukie 2012/10/03 04:05:05
    Patent1
    Only if you are trying to shift the blame for our economic woes into those collecting social security, medicare, the poor and unemployed, instead of blaming the millionaires and billionaires who are hoarding money in Cayman Islands and other offshore accounts.
  • Patent1 Ukie 2012/10/03 04:12:19
    Patent1
    +1
    And the US is an oil exporting country. We export something like 1.7 million barrels of oil a day.
  • Ukie Patent1 2012/10/03 15:21:22
    Ukie
    +1
    Oops did not mean to rave you....sorry and I do "not" mean to offend you, but all you are offering here are "talking points" from the LSM which sadly; only muddies the water because they mainly consist of half-truths and /or are used by the LSM and the Dems as mis-direction. unfortunately this leaves "you" with little or no grasp of the (sorry about the cliche) big picture. Again I mean no offense, but I have neither the time nor the inclination to write a treatise long enough to educate you! I suggest you expand your sphere of influence and do reaearch on your own.

    I will suggest one area to start with if you so choose. You mentioned that we are an oil exporting Country. I would suggest to you that by itself that is very mis-leading and means
    little to nothing in the grand scheme of things. We have "tremendous" resources right here in our own Country. Yet, Obama has put such a strangle-hold on these resources with all of his regulations that we are not allowed access to them. This has a huge impact on us for a variety of reasons.

    For us to have all these resources and be dependent on the Saudi's is ludicrous. It means higher gas prices at the gas pump. From a strategic standpoint it puts us at their mercy with no control over our own destiny should the flow of oil from t...



    Oops did not mean to rave you....sorry and I do "not" mean to offend you, but all you are offering here are "talking points" from the LSM which sadly; only muddies the water because they mainly consist of half-truths and /or are used by the LSM and the Dems as mis-direction. unfortunately this leaves "you" with little or no grasp of the (sorry about the cliche) big picture. Again I mean no offense, but I have neither the time nor the inclination to write a treatise long enough to educate you! I suggest you expand your sphere of influence and do reaearch on your own.

    I will suggest one area to start with if you so choose. You mentioned that we are an oil exporting Country. I would suggest to you that by itself that is very mis-leading and means
    little to nothing in the grand scheme of things. We have "tremendous" resources right here in our own Country. Yet, Obama has put such a strangle-hold on these resources with all of his regulations that we are not allowed access to them. This has a huge impact on us for a variety of reasons.

    For us to have all these resources and be dependent on the Saudi's is ludicrous. It means higher gas prices at the gas pump. From a strategic standpoint it puts us at their mercy with no control over our own destiny should the flow of oil from the middile east be interrupted for any length of time we are screwed. With 23 million people out of work we should be looking under every rock that we can find. The oil and gas industries present along with XL pipeline which Obama stopped present huge opportunities for jobs. We have the largest coal deposits of anywhere in the world, but Obama is shutting them down with regulations to further his "GREEN" intiatives. In and of itself. the green intiatives are a good, but they are decades away from being viable "NATIONAL" alternatives. The technology id just not there yet and we do not yet have the infrastructure to support a viable delivery system.

    Meanwhile, millions are out of work. We are sometimes paying $4.00 per gallon for gas and millions do not have the money to pay for it. Our Economy is in the tank because of Obama's policies and he doesn't care. For us to be put in this position when we have so many opportunities to do better by using our own resources is sheer lunacy It goes on and on and it is a crying shame that one man could do so much damage to our great country.

    Do a lot more research....expand your information sources and put aside what appears to be your mindset for awhile. LEARN....and then ask yourself. Does any of this really make common sense. Don't be a "sheeple" and a victim of the "Cult of personality" that seems to be prevalent with so many people. My goodness man....this is the most important election of our lifetime. It is not a matter of I'm right and you are wrong. It's a matter of what is really true and in the end; believe it or not, It's a matter of survival for all of us. If we get it wrong; we will all be in the soup together and "WHERE DO WE GO FROM THERE"? Romney or Obama survival Romney or Obama survival http://cdn.crooksandliars.com... http://www.bloomberg.com/imag... http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JdF... Obama stops XL pipeline Obama stops XL pipeline Obama stops XL pipeline N Dakota oil boom N Dakota oil boom 23 million out of work 23 million out of work 23 million out of work 16 trillion debt 16 trillion debt 16 trillion debt 16 trillion debt obama flim flam man obama flim flam man Democrats 3 years w o a budget
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  • Patent1 Ukie 2012/10/04 05:03:13
    Patent1
    What talking points? Are they not true? If not, show me. We all know that millionaires and billionaires have ways if hiding income from the IRS. Do you disagree with that? Do you believe it is not true? I know for a fact that there are loopholes that allow the rich to defer paying taxes until they die, by which time their estate is so divided and hidden in shell and holding companies that it is impossible to track it all down with the limited resources the IRS has. And nobody has said how Robme was able to put 100 million in an IRA.

    The prez has not put a stranglehold on our resources. Millions of acres available for drilling are idle. The only limitation is on government lands. In fact, there is more oil and gas exploration on private lands than ever before.

    And if we actually need more oil, why don't we just keep what we have, instead of exporting it.

    So why don't we change to green resources instead of burning more fossil fuels. A simple calculation shows that all the known reserves of oil will run out in somewhere between 25 - 30 yrs. That's 1.2 trillion barrels of oil divided by 90 million barrels a day consumption. Do the math. And by the time 1.2 trillion billion barrels of burned oil is dumped into the atmosphere, what is the atmosphere going to be like...

    What talking points? Are they not true? If not, show me. We all know that millionaires and billionaires have ways if hiding income from the IRS. Do you disagree with that? Do you believe it is not true? I know for a fact that there are loopholes that allow the rich to defer paying taxes until they die, by which time their estate is so divided and hidden in shell and holding companies that it is impossible to track it all down with the limited resources the IRS has. And nobody has said how Robme was able to put 100 million in an IRA.

    The prez has not put a stranglehold on our resources. Millions of acres available for drilling are idle. The only limitation is on government lands. In fact, there is more oil and gas exploration on private lands than ever before.

    And if we actually need more oil, why don't we just keep what we have, instead of exporting it.

    So why don't we change to green resources instead of burning more fossil fuels. A simple calculation shows that all the known reserves of oil will run out in somewhere between 25 - 30 yrs. That's 1.2 trillion barrels of oil divided by 90 million barrels a day consumption. Do the math. And by the time 1.2 trillion billion barrels of burned oil is dumped into the atmosphere, what is the atmosphere going to be like? Burned oil creates CO2. That's 2 atoms of OXYGEN for every atom of carbon. We need oxygen to breathe, and the atmosphere is only about 19% oxygen. Breathing at sea level then will be like breathing halfway up Mount Everest.

    You people are delusional.
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  • Ukie Patent1 2012/10/04 14:56:48
    Ukie
    You missed the whole point...Green energy is fine and should be pursued, but not at the expense of failing to to do the practical and necessry things to keep us going in a cost effetive way and keep us strategicly sound.. You sound like the typical liberal tree hugger who because of ideology has no clue about common sense applied in a reasonable way while we work at achieving better ways to do things in a cost effective way for the American people. You don't get anywhere by forcing the issue and cramming your position down peoples throats (ala Obama) and in the process destroy the economy.
  • firebird 2012/09/18 13:05:54
    Some people will sell themselves really cheap
    firebird
    +7
    Absolutely correct ! The WELFARE flyers will vote for him regardless..... But that means the other 53% PAYS THE TAXES and the other 53% had better start thinking about JUST HOW MUCH MORE THEY WILL BE PAYING IF OBAMA GETS BACK IN.... BECAUSE HE IS PROMOTING WELFARE FOR THE VOTES !!!!!!! DUHHHHHHH and the ILLEGALS WILL BE RUSHING OVER HERE AGAIN.... DUHHHHH for the promise of FREE HEALTHCARE and possibly from the promise of AMNESTY THAT THE 53% WILL BE PAYING FOR .. DUHHHHHHHH... that means more WELFARE DUE TO UNEMPLOYMENT GOING HIGHER>>DUHHHHHHHH START THINKING VOTERS !!! USE YOUR BRAIN !!!
  • da raphael firebird 2012/09/18 14:15:31
    da raphael
    +3
    53 % and the other 53%. Lmao, I stopped reading then and there
  • Patent1 firebird 2012/09/19 20:51:12
    Patent1
    The repugs and teabugers are the ones that don't pay taxes. Take a look at the map. And there are 7000 millionaires who don't pay taxes.

    http://www.denverpost.com/pol...
  • ☆astac☆ 2012/09/18 12:43:29
    Some people will sell themselves really cheap
    ☆astac☆
    +5
    Thanks to our public education system being infected by liberals who preach that government will take care of you, so instead of teaching a person how to fish, the liberals teach the people to hold out their hands and beg
  • Patent1 ☆astac☆ 2012/09/19 20:51:57
    Patent1
    Repugs are the ones who don't pay taxes

    http://www.denverpost.com/pol...
  • ☆astac☆ Patent1 2012/09/20 01:48:33
    ☆astac☆
    Liar
  • Kat 2012/09/18 12:40:09
    Some people will sell themselves really cheap
    Kat
    +4
    His constituents...
  • DoxieDad 2012/09/18 11:57:49
    Just coincidence
    DoxieDad
    +5
    Not really a coincidence the numbers are what they are. I just love the high indignation that the Dems are spouting when the truth hits them like a pie.
  • Patent1 DoxieDad 2012/09/19 20:52:26
  • DoxieDad Patent1 2012/09/20 00:48:06
    DoxieDad
    I prefer Pumpkin pie as to the crusted political BS Pie that both sides are serving. But that said;

    "According to the non-partisan Tax Policy Center, 46 percent of American tax filers, or about 76 million people, paid no federal income tax in 2011,"

    Is the number a legitimate claim? How it was presented to a partisan crowd can be debated. The actual breakdown of the internal numbers can be and have been distorted by both sides. The fact still remains the claim Mitt Romney made is not a lie. 47% of Obama supporters are not going to support Mitt Romney and we know what he said after that. This whole Presidential campaign is coming down to sound bites, distortions and gotcha video's from both camps. 47% will not vote for Romney, 47% will not vote for Obama. What both sides need to do is convince the 6% that they can actually do something more then point fingers at each other.
  • ComeOnNow 2012/09/18 11:52:00
    Some people will sell themselves really cheap
    ComeOnNow
    +9
    I do not see the democrats on here demanding to pay for anything. Obama's brother lives in a shack as he lectures us about charity. Clearly it is time for a flat tax, no exemptions for anyone or any business. You know, actually treat everyone equally. That way all the democrats actually have to contribute to all these programs they pretend to care about. We know you just want hand outs and are willing to bankrupt the entire country for them. Look how they cried about even paying for their own social security. Here is an idea, if NOBODY wants to pay for it, it is not that important and needs to be eliminated.

     That is because they have a huge percentage of the population dependent on the government for hand outs and jobs. The same thing you democrats are trying to do to this country. You imbeciles are pushing the same exact failed policies that destroyed Europe. How about instead of sudden and forced austerity because we are bankrupt, we actually say hey you lazy able bodied bums and corrupt businesses and countries, we are done giving you hand outs. We cannot afford them. You have “X” years to get a job and then you are off the government dole? Why do we have to wait until the democrats failed policies bankrupt us for piddly things like birth control that should clearly be up...

    I do not see the democrats on here demanding to pay for anything. Obama's brother lives in a shack as he lectures us about charity. Clearly it is time for a flat tax, no exemptions for anyone or any business. You know, actually treat everyone equally. That way all the democrats actually have to contribute to all these programs they pretend to care about. We know you just want hand outs and are willing to bankrupt the entire country for them. Look how they cried about even paying for their own social security. Here is an idea, if NOBODY wants to pay for it, it is not that important and needs to be eliminated.

     That is because they have a huge percentage of the population dependent on the government for hand outs and jobs. The same thing you democrats are trying to do to this country. You imbeciles are pushing the same exact failed policies that destroyed Europe. How about instead of sudden and forced austerity because we are bankrupt, we actually say hey you lazy able bodied bums and corrupt businesses and countries, we are done giving you hand outs. We cannot afford them. You have “X” years to get a job and then you are off the government dole? Why do we have to wait until the democrats failed policies bankrupt us for piddly things like birth control that should clearly be up to the individual.

    Obama is the president of stealing. Democrats should just change their name to the party of Jealous Thieves. Every time Obama speaks he vilifies those that actually pay taxes and promises more hand outs to buy votes from the thieves. it has become the entire platform of the crooks.
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  • Patent1 ComeOnNow 2012/09/19 20:53:16
    Patent1
    Its the repugs and teabugers who don't pay taxes.

    http://www.denverpost.com/pol...
  • ComeOnNow Patent1 2012/09/22 16:18:30
    ComeOnNow
    +1
    Everything that I said was true. Didn't the liberal Microsoft just skip
    Out in billions in taxes? Same with Buffett. It is ALWAYS the democrats demanding more taxes on others while demanding less and more hand puts for themselves
  • Patent1 ComeOnNow 2012/09/24 04:20:41
    Patent1
    Not only Microsoft, but GE and Exxon Mobile too. And we are still giving Exxon Mobile 5 BILLION in subsidies, even thought ey made 200 BILLION in profit last year. You support that? If you do, you must be an executive for Exxon Mobile.
  • ComeOnNow Patent1 2012/09/24 10:47:09 (edited)
    ComeOnNow
    +1
    I still have yet to see any subsidies that oil companies get that all other companies don't get. I am however against all subsidies and believe we should have a flatly tax.also, when you people keep wanting to raise taxes it does not affect these companies. It hurts the mom and pop shops. I do not see why democrats always fail to see that
  • Patent1 ComeOnNow 2012/09/27 05:27:42
    Patent1
    Wrong on all counts. History on oil company subsidies

    http://news.yahoo.com/history...

    I don't understand why repugs and teabugers don't understand simple economics. Take 20 kids and 100 marbles. Put the kids around a table. Put the 100 marbles in the middle of the table, and then give 1 kid half the marbles. The other 10 kids only have 5o marbles to split between them. That's what's happening today. Half the money in America is going to the wealthiest 5%. 6 banks own assets woorth more than 60% of the nations GDP. A flat tax would give them more, and cause everybody else to give more. Hermann Cain's flat 9% tax was shown to be a huge tax increase on 98% of Americans.
  • ComeOnNow Patent1 2012/09/27 11:00:56
    ComeOnNow
    Clearly it is that that has no comprehension of economics as no democrats do. You are basing your model on the false premise of a finite pie and zero productivity. zero productivity only comes with government spending and entitlements, which do shrink the economic pie. In reality this is how your little model really works. One of those kids says, hey if I can get a couple more marbles I can trade it and get a marble machine to make more. So one of two things happen. One he goes to the other kid and pitches his idea. He promises him more marbles in the future if the other kid lets him borrow their marbles. That is banking and investment. The other is te one kid says to the other kid, I will do your chores and sacrifice for your marbles and make your life easier for some of your marbles and some of the kids say sure. The entrepreneurial kid is willing to put in additional work and sacrifice. He trades his marbles for a marble machine and begins making marbles and expanding the entire pool of marbles. In order to produce more and more marbles the entrepreneurial sacrifices and puts his marbles on the line and sacrifices his time for the opportunity to get more marbles in the long term. He then approaches the other children and says hey I can get you more marbles as well buy I ne...
    Clearly it is that that has no comprehension of economics as no democrats do. You are basing your model on the false premise of a finite pie and zero productivity. zero productivity only comes with government spending and entitlements, which do shrink the economic pie. In reality this is how your little model really works. One of those kids says, hey if I can get a couple more marbles I can trade it and get a marble machine to make more. So one of two things happen. One he goes to the other kid and pitches his idea. He promises him more marbles in the future if the other kid lets him borrow their marbles. That is banking and investment. The other is te one kid says to the other kid, I will do your chores and sacrifice for your marbles and make your life easier for some of your marbles and some of the kids say sure. The entrepreneurial kid is willing to put in additional work and sacrifice. He trades his marbles for a marble machine and begins making marbles and expanding the entire pool of marbles. In order to produce more and more marbles the entrepreneurial sacrifices and puts his marbles on the line and sacrifices his time for the opportunity to get more marbles in the long term. He then approaches the other children and says hey I can get you more marbles as well buy I need help manning my marble machine. Ten of the kids decide sure that is worth it, and help him getting more and more marbles as well. They too sacrifice their time to get more marbles, and for a while the worker kids get more marbles than the entrepreneurial kid who keeps investing his marbles. In the long run the entrepreneurial kid can start reaping the benefits of all of his hard work, ingenuity, and time and energy invested and accumulated more marbles. All eleven kids are far better off with far more marbles. The democrats are the ten that did not want to work or sacrifice, get jealous that the productive and entrepreneurial kids have more and say hey you evil entrepreneurial, you did not build that, and want to use brute police force to steal from them instead of doing the same. They begin taking marbles from the productive. Then some of the productive say, what the hell, I am working and sacrificing and those democrat clowns that are not working at all are now getting a many marbles as me and stop working and producing more marbles. On top of that, the entrepreneurial one is getting so many marbles taken from him that he has less marbles to invest to keep producing more and more marbles more efficiently, this means that there is far less marbles than there would otherwise be for everyone. That is really how the economy works and why the democrats have a complete lack of understanding of the economy and reality. Every democrat policy destroys jobs and opportunity. You morons can not even justify your failed ideology. The assets get distributed based on hard work and sacrifice and the contribution to the economy and everyone around them that people make. It is the only way the economy works. Unfortunately, you lazy democrats have to work for your marbles just like the millions of others worse off than you do every day. Chump.
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  • Patent1 ComeOnNow 2012/09/29 00:54:17
    Patent1
    I understand economics perfectly well. You are basing your whole argument on there being an infinite source of marbles. There is no such thing. The supply of dollars is limited in order to prevent inflation. And the paper wealth you are talking about is artificial. The recent banking crash proved that.
  • ComeOnNow Patent1 2012/09/29 01:51:15
    ComeOnNow
    There is not a finite amount of goods and services. That I why the economy has to be based on production and not hand outs. All the banking crash proves is that when the government forces down underwriting standards at banks it leads to massive defaults and a bubble in the housing market based on artificial demand of those too irresponsible to have houses.

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