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$4 trillion war officially ends!

irish 2013/02/03 14:13:51

By Christopher Hinton, MarketWatch

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — The nine-year-old Iraq war came to an official end on Thursday, but paying for it will continue for decades until U.S. taxpayers have shelled out an estimated $4 trillion.

Over a 50-year period, that comes to $80 billion annually.

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  • stevmackey 2013/02/04 03:10:01 (edited)
    stevmackey
    Do you think that is great? Watch what happens now that our back is turned. There was a perfectly good reason to keep a "presence". Never turn your back on a Muslim nation!
  • irish stevmackey 2013/02/04 11:05:02
    irish
    +1
    i wouldn't turn my back on the zionists if i were you. they are the source of the world disruptions.
  • cut and paste king 2013/02/03 22:39:12
    cut and paste king
    +1
    This month marks the ninth anniversary of the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Regardless of your views on the wisdom of that decision, it's fair to say that the results were not what most Americans expected. Now that the war is officially over and most U.S. forces have withdrawn, what lessons should Americans (and others) draw from the experience? There are many lessons that one might learn, of course, but here are my Top 10 Lessons from the war

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    Lesson #1: The United States lost. The first and most important lesson of Iraq war is that we didn't win in any meaningful sense of that term. The alleged purpose of the war was eliminating Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction, but it turns out he didn't have any. Oops. Then the rationale shifted to creating a pro-American democracy, but Iraq today is at best a quasi-democracy and far from pro-American. The destruction of Iraq improved Iran's position in the Persian Gulf -- which is hardly something the United States intended -- and the costs of the war (easily exceeding $1 trillion dollars) are much larger than U.S. leaders anticipated or promised. The war was also a giant distraction, which diverted the Bush administration from other priorities (e.g., Afghanistan) and made the United States much less popular around the wor...



    This month marks the ninth anniversary of the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Regardless of your views on the wisdom of that decision, it's fair to say that the results were not what most Americans expected. Now that the war is officially over and most U.S. forces have withdrawn, what lessons should Americans (and others) draw from the experience? There are many lessons that one might learn, of course, but here are my Top 10 Lessons from the war

    More...
    Lesson #1: The United States lost. The first and most important lesson of Iraq war is that we didn't win in any meaningful sense of that term. The alleged purpose of the war was eliminating Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction, but it turns out he didn't have any. Oops. Then the rationale shifted to creating a pro-American democracy, but Iraq today is at best a quasi-democracy and far from pro-American. The destruction of Iraq improved Iran's position in the Persian Gulf -- which is hardly something the United States intended -- and the costs of the war (easily exceeding $1 trillion dollars) are much larger than U.S. leaders anticipated or promised. The war was also a giant distraction, which diverted the Bush administration from other priorities (e.g., Afghanistan) and made the United States much less popular around the world.

    This lesson is important because supporters of the war are already marketing a revisionist version. In this counternarrative, the 2007 surge was a huge success (it wasn't, because it failed to produce political reconciliation) and Iraq is now on the road to stable and prosperous democracy. And the costs weren't really that bad. Another variant of this myth is the idea that President George W. Bush and Gen. David Petraeus had "won" the war by 2008, but President Obama then lost it by getting out early. This view ignores the fact that the Bush administration negotiated the 2008 Status of Forces agreement that set the timetable for U.S. withdrawal, and Obama couldn't stay in Iraq once the Iraqi government made it clear it wanted us out.

    The danger of this false narrative is obvious: If Americans come to see the war as a success -- which it clearly wasn't -- they may continue to listen to the advice of its advocates and be more inclined to repeat similar mistakes in the future.
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  • irish cut and... 2013/02/03 22:59:45
    irish
    more fake history being spread.
  • cut and paste king 2013/02/03 22:35:12
  • Risk 2013/02/03 20:30:22
    Risk
    +3
    Here's what puzzles me ..... What has been our reward ? Can someone give me a vague idea of what we have gained from this war and what are we going to gain by our continuation of them ? ? ? ?

    puzzled
  • cut and... Risk 2013/02/03 22:40:35
  • irish Risk 2013/02/03 23:00:19
    irish
    +2
    the weapons manufacturers made a bundle.
  • Risk irish 2013/02/03 23:12:55
    Risk
    +3
    Oh shyt, why didn't I think of that. Good as answer as any. ; )
  • irish Risk 2013/02/03 23:14:10
    irish
    +1
    yep! :)
  • ed 2013/02/03 18:11:23
    ed
    +1
    we shall see
  • Wulfdane 2013/02/03 17:50:35 (edited)
    Wulfdane
    +1
    We don't pay off our debts anymore, we only pay the interest. Andrew Jackson was the last President (with Congress) to pay off America's debts.

    We are still paying interest on our Word War I & II debts.
  • mich52 2013/02/03 16:02:33
  • Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2013/02/03 16:01:13 (edited)
    Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +2
    Nevermind, you linked to an old article.

    But regardless we all know troops are still there guarding the empire's assets.
  • Tuna 2013/02/03 15:27:53
    Tuna
    +4
    $4T?? where did that come from? Obama says ending BOTH wars is his $1.4T in spending cuts. The killer is "we the people" get to rebuild Iraq, make sure they have FAIR elections, and good monetary policy. LOL !!!!! 2 2 5
  • irish Tuna 2013/02/03 15:29:01
  • mich52 Tuna 2013/02/03 16:04:45
  • Tuna mich52 2013/02/03 16:09:40
    Tuna
    +2
    You just got your liberal parrot ass spanked on Civil Rights and now back for more; TOTAL IS $1.4T
    http://costofwar.com/
  • mich52 Tuna 2013/02/05 18:56:27
  • Tuna mich52 2013/02/03 16:15:49
    Tuna
    +2
    The "TYPICAL" liberal revisionism is to count veteran's care for 10 years, dental care for survivors for 10 years, delivering babies for survivors for 10 years,shoes for the wife/husband, cost of survivors finding a job, tires for the Jeeps EVERYTHING they can possibly pile on, they charge to War spending. $1.4T is the TOTAL of both wars without all the liberal frills.
  • cut and... Tuna 2013/02/03 22:43:51
  • Tuna cut and... 2013/02/03 22:51:05
    Tuna
    Totally useless in this discussion
  • cut and... Tuna 2013/02/03 22:55:27
    cut and paste king
    +1
    not important if you re a stinking republican
    get over it , u guys screwed up on everything yous touched. thats why yous ride now in the back of the bus
  • Tuna cut and... 2013/02/03 22:57:05
    Tuna
    I'm Tea Party; republicans and democrats made this mess.
  • cut and... Tuna 2013/02/03 23:00:16
    cut and paste king
    +1
    in your dreams bud hjopfo
  • cut and... Tuna 2013/02/03 22:45:58
  • Tuna cut and... 2013/02/03 22:57:38
    Tuna
    That's 2008; useless.
  • cut and... Tuna 2013/02/03 23:06:38
    cut and paste king
    +1
    https://motherjones.com/files...
  • cut and... Tuna 2013/02/03 23:09:13
  • Tuna cut and... 2013/02/03 23:12:09
    Tuna
    You're proving what I said, thanks.
  • mich52 cut and... 2013/02/05 18:59:23
  • Stardust 2013/02/03 15:07:04
  • irish Stardust 2013/02/03 15:07:22
    irish
    +2
    i agree.
  • DDogbreath 2013/02/03 14:44:10
  • irish DDogbreath 2013/02/03 14:48:08
    irish
    +4
    LMAO!! love it.
  • Stardust DDogbreath 2013/02/03 15:08:40
  • Hawkeye 2013/02/03 14:39:46
    Hawkeye
    +2
    THIS is MOST interresting considering that the GAO and CBO released their joint annual report on the costs of BOTH the Afghan and Iraqi Wars which said that the TOTAL costs of BOTH wars was 1.4 Trillion Dollars AS OF September 11,, 2012 ( the DAY of the Benghazi Attack ) and they were ADAMENT in pointing out that THIS included IN this audit the total costs of the medical treatments of returning Vets..

    It's ALSO something that needs to be pointed out that the Iraqi War was all but over with BEFORE Obama even became President..

    When was the last time YOU heard of ANY Major military engagements in Iraq??

    Obama claiming credit for "Ending the war in Iraq" because he brought home some advisors is like him bringing home U.S. soldiers from Germany and THEN claiming that HE won WWII..
  • irish Hawkeye 2013/02/03 14:41:41
    irish
    +3
    if you recall,iraq told bo and company to get out! or be arrested, so they left.
    and of course the govt lies about costs.
  • Hawkeye irish 2013/02/03 15:52:21
    Hawkeye
    Oh of COURSE they do and the Bush Bashers are as truthful as the wind driven snow..

    This IS the Government of Obama we're talking about.. The GAO/CBO report is EXACTLY the opposite of what Obama has been saying he inherited..
  • irish Hawkeye 2013/02/03 15:55:09
    irish
    +2
    never believe anything the govt tells you.

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