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Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/27 22:26:12
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NC climate change bill draws handful of protesters (uneducated LWNUTS)

ALLEN REED, Associated Press

Updated 07:05 p.m., Tuesday, June 26, 2012

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — As state House committee
members were wrapping up up their work on legislation to guide North
Carolina's position on climate change, a handful of protesters showed up
Tuesday to say the state must not hide from scientific evidence on
rising sea levels.

Republican Rep. Pat McElraft
of Carteret County said a committee has almost finished reworking the
bill that was unanimously rejected last week. She said it could be up
for a vote Wednesday and that committee members are "pretty much in
agreement" on how to move forward.

new version calls for more study on how much the sea level is expected
to rise by 2100 — but it does so carefully. McElraft, sponsor of the
bill, said the new version will not include a projection by a
state-sponsored science panel that the increase could be 3 feet. It also
will not limit the state to using only historical data in calculating
future trends. The additional studies will take three-to-four years, she
said, and in the meantime a moratorium would be placed on using the
3-foot figure.

The bill could determine how much development is allowed and affect insurance rates on the coast.

are asking for more science, we are asking for legitimate science,
science that didn't just use one model out of hundreds of models out
there," McElraft said.

sea-level discussion started after the state-appointed science panel
warned sea levels could rise by more than 3 feet by 2100 and threaten
more than 2,000 square miles of coastal land. The Senate rewrote HB 819,
put forth by McElraft in 2011, to legislate against those
scientific recommendations.

a half dozen protesters and about as many news reporters, congregated
Tuesday outside the legislative building in Raleigh. The demonstrators
held signs proclaiming "You can't hide the truth" and "Don't put
short-term profit before the safety of our coastal communities." Duke
graduate student Ethan Case brought a meter-long sign to physically represent scientists' warnings.

are members of the older generation that are essentially creating debt
for younger people that we're going to have to pay later," Case said.
"They're pushing an anti-youth agenda that passes the cost of this poor
coastal planning onto young people and future North
Carolinian taxpayers."

Organized by www.350.org,
a climate change nonprofit, the protesters spoke out against rejecting
the science panel's warning of rising sea levels. Protesters hand
delivered to McElraft the signatures of more than 3,000 people who want
lawmakers to use the scientists' estimates. Copies were also sent to
House Speaker Thom Tillis.

"I've personally already witnessed all of the disasters that come from flooding on the coast," said Cristina Benavides,
political science senior at the University of North Carolina at
Wilmington. "Last year, when I was walking to class at UNC Wilmington I
had to walk through water on campus that reached up to my knees. If
these are already the effects we see now, we can't ignore the disastrous
implications of not incorporating climate change science."

McElraft fielded all the questions the group had for her and assured the group she wanted to ensure the best science is used.

not a scientist," McElraft said. "I'm not ignoring anything. I'm a
policy maker and you can't make policy on something that is
not scientific."

Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/NC-climate-change-bill...


Elementary school experiment:

Please put ice in a glass, then add water. Make a mark where the water level is. Make another mark when the ice melts.

When your water lines freeze, what happens? They burst. When water freezes (turns to ice) it EXPANDS.

SOOOO.......When the almost 4 million square miles of ice covering the North Pole melts, what does the sea level do? That's right, it goes DOWN!

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  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/30 12:55:10
    Sea level rise is faux, or political, science.....
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    Notice that this misinformed child is a senior in college with a degree in POLITICAL SCIENCE.

    "....Cristina Benavides,
    political science senior at the University of North Carolina at
  • sglmom 2012/06/28 03:47:59
    Sea level rise is faux, or political, science.....

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