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2nd Degree Sunburn When School Requires Doctor's Note for Sunscreen: Blame School?

Fef 2012/06/25 22:48:19
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Schools have to cover themselves from over-litigious parents. However, sometimes over-protecting students can lead to under-protecting them. Consider this case of a two girls Violet, 11, and Zoe, 9, in Tacoma, Washington. The girls suffer from a form of albinism and require sunscreen lotion when going in the sun. The school, however, requires a doctor's note for sunscreen. Who deserves the blame for the girls suffering 2nd degree sunburns.

FoxNews.com reports:A Tacoma, Wash., mom is seeing red after her fair-skinned daughters returned home from school severely sunburned. Michener says she did not give the girls sunscreen because it appeared to be an overcast day, but says that school officials should have been able to let them apply sunscreen when the sun came out--especially since both Violet, 11, and Zoe, 9, suffer from a form of albinism.

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  • Deliciously Melicious 2012/06/26 01:06:21
    Don't Blame School
    Deliciously Melicious
    +12
    My son has vitiligo, and also burns quite easily on the spots where he has no pigmentation. At the beginning of every school year, his doctor supplies the correct paper work and I send a bottle of sunscreen to school.

    We also apply sunscreen every morning, every day. It is a habit. Overcast or not. As a parent with a child who burns easily it is MY job to educate myself, overcast days do not protect from UV rays. I am pro-active, and I make sure my son will not burn.

    When he goes to a friends, sunscreen is with him. It's not hard to do any of this, it just needs to be a priority and habit.

    In my opinion, this mother should have asked the school's policy at the beginning of the year, or during registration, and then there would have never been a problem.

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  • Pele Em... merlins... 2012/06/29 22:24:16
    Pele Emerging
    They had to abide by the law. If you think the law is wrong, do something to change it, but don't blame the school when they must do so.
  • merlins... Pele Em... 2012/06/30 01:41:03
    merlinskiss
    I will always fall back on reason, logic and common sense. To hell with the law. Stupidity can no be allowed to reign supreme no matter laws. They should never have been taken out under those conditions regardless of any laws!
  • Pele Em... merlins... 2012/06/30 03:24:08
    Pele Emerging
    Unfortunately, public schools cannot. The laws are restricted because sometime a school gave a student an OTC, which resulted in injury and parents sued. If the school had applied the sunscreen and the child had an allergic reaction, even though the parent sent the stuff, that mother would have gone to the media bitching yet again. REASON AND LOGIC dictate that a PARENT TAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR A CHILD AND DOES NOT DEPEND ON THE SCHOOL TO BE MOMMY!
  • merlins... Pele Em... 2012/06/30 14:55:48
    merlinskiss
    I will stick to my answer. They didn't have to take them out in the sun.
  • Pele Em... merlins... 2012/06/30 18:47:35
    Pele Emerging
    It was a field day. It was known to all parents and students that the day's activities would be held outside. I'm betting that notes went home about making sure that you applied plenty of sunscreen. I'm also betting that the kids who were toasting were given a place out of the sun, but it was probably out of the activities.

    I do not understand why you want parents to give up responsibilities to the schools. Schools are supposed to educate NOT be a kid's Mommy and Daddy. Now, you want the schools to be Doctor, as well.
  • merlins... Pele Em... 2012/06/30 19:22:48
    merlinskiss
    I give up neither responsibilities. I expect parents to be right there and I expect both to use reason, logic and common sense and not expose kids to sunburns like that. Who is to blame? Pure stupidity!
  • Pele Em... merlins... 2012/06/30 19:27:08
    Pele Emerging
    If the mother had taken responsibility for her kids, instead of delegating it to the schools, it wouldn't have happened.
  • merlins... Pele Em... 2012/06/30 19:31:42
    merlinskiss
    I will never buy that. Stupidity reigned rampant on both sides. And I am done with it!
  • Pele Em... merlins... 2012/06/30 19:58:26
    Pele Emerging
    I will never buy that the schools should take over a parent's obligations to their children.
  • merlins... Pele Em... 2012/07/01 16:24:49
    merlinskiss
    Your choice. Hope stupidity never char-broils your kids while you aren't looking.
  • Pele Em... merlins... 2012/07/01 18:52:03
    Pele Emerging
    My kids are grown and charbroiling themselves. However, my very fair skinned daughter didn't go to an all day activity without being slathered with sunscreen first. I also made sure that whatever emergency medications she might need were in the office with that doctor's note--she had allergies and would unexpectedly break out in hives.

    You can't change the laws to suit your purposes. It was parents and suing society which made it so difficult for schools to allow a child a medication--which stupid as it might seem, sunscreen is classed as a medication. There is no middle ground here. You're talking about people who would lose their jobs and careers/certification if they did what you're suggesting and even a small adverse reaction happened.

    Ultimately, you say that logic should rule. Ultimately, logic says that no parent wants the school to take over their job. On this, parents have sued time and time again, even on such things as when schools recommend retention, but a parent doesn't want it. You can't tie a schools figurative hands behind it's back and then bitch that the didn't catch the ball, which is what you're doing. They took away logic and made it AGAINST THE LAW, but still, you want to blame the school.
  • merlins... Pele Em... 2012/07/01 20:05:49
    merlinskiss
    I am talking about ignorance and stupidity and a char-broiled kid. End of story.
  • Pele Em... merlins... 2012/07/01 21:44:54
    Pele Emerging
    I am talking about taking responsibility for yourself and your kids or don't have them. End of story.

    BTW, it your attitude is one of the reasons schools can't apply sunscreen. You want them to do it, but you also blame them if something happens if they do.
    damned if you do damned if you don t
  • merlins... Pele Em... 2012/07/01 22:01:00
    merlinskiss
    What's for dinner dear? Crispy kid!
  • Pele Em... merlins... 2012/07/01 23:33:52
    Pele Emerging
    And you cooked it all by yourself without any help from the school.
  • merlins... Pele Em... 2012/07/01 23:45:23
    merlinskiss
    You want the last word? You got it. Try some mint jelly with the crispy kid and let the school know if they aren't done enough. ROFLOL
  • Pele Em... merlins... 2012/07/02 00:06:03
    Pele Emerging
    Yes, and be sure to put your lawyer on retainer so you can sue no matter what.
  • Deliciously Melicious 2012/06/26 01:06:21
    Don't Blame School
    Deliciously Melicious
    +12
    My son has vitiligo, and also burns quite easily on the spots where he has no pigmentation. At the beginning of every school year, his doctor supplies the correct paper work and I send a bottle of sunscreen to school.

    We also apply sunscreen every morning, every day. It is a habit. Overcast or not. As a parent with a child who burns easily it is MY job to educate myself, overcast days do not protect from UV rays. I am pro-active, and I make sure my son will not burn.

    When he goes to a friends, sunscreen is with him. It's not hard to do any of this, it just needs to be a priority and habit.

    In my opinion, this mother should have asked the school's policy at the beginning of the year, or during registration, and then there would have never been a problem.
  • Pele Em... Delicio... 2012/06/26 11:09:51
    Pele Emerging
    +4
    My! Personal responsibility! Is that such a hard concept to grasp? Can you see the scenario whereby it became illegal for schools to apply the sunscreen? Little Janey brings sunscreen and someone applies it and gets a rash. Parents sue, even if they provided the offending sunscreen. Now, parents are upset because schools say, we will NOT apply, unless your doctor says it's ok. It's a natural consequence. I'm sorry that these girls have such an idiot for a mother, but if Mom wants to find out who is to blame, she should look in the mirror!
  • Delicio... Pele Em... 2012/06/26 14:28:23
    Deliciously Melicious
    +7
    I agree Pele. It's crazy to me that so many people want to blame the school.

    This year for field day, we were told weeks in advance, flyers sent home every week, telling us it was coming, telling us what the kids could wear, telling us to apply sunscreen before school....

    Like I said, if your child has a condition, any condition, you educate yourself and then you make sure they are taken care, if this means getting a doctors note, you get one, if it means doing it before school, you do it before school.
  • Pele Em... Delicio... 2012/06/26 21:29:59
    Pele Emerging
    +2
    People always want to blame the school. Truly, I think schools should put a sign over the double doors: Damned if we do....damned if we don't. US kids don't test as high, except that ALL of our kids are compared against only the college prep kids in other countries. The kids can't do this, that, or the other thing, but parents send their kids to school totally unprepared, don't manage to see to it that their kids complete homework, don't even send them with school supplies, but are up in arms if a teacher suggests that the kid shouldn't pass on to the next grade.

    This mother was a total idiot and instead of going to the media about the school, should have a neglect complaint against her for not doing HER job!!!
  • ☆ElenaD... Delicio... 2012/06/26 17:42:15
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    +2
    Great point. I said something similar.
  • Alvin 2012/06/26 00:47:44
    Don't Blame School
    Alvin
    +1
    Blame over litigious people who would sue if the school used a sunscreen without their express permission and sue if the school did not use sunscreen.
    I think there are too many lawyers and too many people with less common sense than God gave a gnat.
  • Gwen 2012/06/26 00:45:41
    Don't Blame School
    Gwen
    +4
    was this the first day of school?....if this was a condition...then it should have been documented and provisions made for this...

    as a school nurse...I would have called the parent and requested them to bring in sunscreen, or apply...etc....

    parent hold primary responsibility...
  • Delicio... Gwen 2012/06/26 01:07:15
    Deliciously Melicious
    +6
    My thoughts as well.
  • Staind_wolf94 2012/06/26 00:21:39
    Blame School
    Staind_wolf94
    +1
    Sure it's partially the mother's fault becaus she did not give the girls sunscreen, but who's to say the school would have let the girls use it even if they had their own?
  • Paige 2012/06/26 00:14:56
    Blame School
    Paige
    Owewwwwwwww
  • Alexis 2012/06/26 00:12:58
    Blame School
    Alexis
    +1
    Oh, because sunscreen is such a deadly weapon, and could be used as a drug. They let all these girls carry lotion, and perfumes, ect. But won't let two girls who NEED it to use to it. Smh, I hate the school system.
  • Vision of Verve 2012/06/26 00:07:23
  • rustex782 2012/06/25 23:54:03
    Don't Blame School
    rustex782
    +2
    if people would stop running around suing everybody for every damn thing then this would never have happened. BTW its just a sun burn, she could have gone in the shade, and when i watched the video footage on the news, she looked perfectly fine by the next day or two (whenever they were questioning her on TV)
  • Pele Emerging 2012/06/25 23:48:34
    Don't Blame School
    Pele Emerging
    +5
    No school ever stopped a parent from applying sunscreen BEFORE SCHOOL. Last I knew, unless water is involved, sunscreen would certainly last all of the school day. So, what the heck prevented the mother from slathering her kids, who have sensitive skin, in sunscreen BEFORE SCHOOL! What stopped the mother from going to the school event and putting sunscreen ON her children?

    Let's not take responsibility for our own actions or for our own children...LET'S BLAME THE SCHOOLS INSTEAD! Does anyone else see something wrong with this?
  • Alvin Pele Em... 2012/06/26 00:52:26
    Alvin
    +3
    Take responsibility for one's own actions? What is that? It seems to be concept that is no longer taught at home, school or the religious centers. It is always some one else's fault.
  • Pele Em... Alvin 2012/06/26 01:04:41
    Pele Emerging
    +2
    It always has to be someone's fault. I get so tired of people suffering natural consequences as a result of their own stupidity and wanting to blame someone else. Does this idiot woman realize that the reason IT IS AGAINST THE LAW to put sunscreen on her kids without the doctor's note is that undoubtedly, a school did just that, the kid got a rash, and the parents sued.
  • TheVynne 2012/06/25 23:37:25
    Blame School
    TheVynne
    But also blame the parents that put the policy in place. That's ridiculous, I wish the kids would have put it on despite the policy, their health is better than a policy (especially with albinism).
  • ~Adrien~ 2012/06/25 23:30:19
    Blame School
    ~Adrien~
    +1
    I say, they should have put it on anyway. If you can buy something over the counter, a note from the parent should have been sufficient. . . Just another stupid rule if you ask me.
  • Pele Em... ~Adrien~ 2012/06/25 23:58:23
    Pele Emerging
    +2
    By all accounts, the mother didn't even bother to send a note. Sunscreen is classed as an over the counter drug. A school doesn't allow kids to bring aspirin and take it, so why would a kid be allowed to use sunscreen? This mother has one child who definitely should be wearing sunscreen all of the time and also, should be allowed to reapply it, so the question is, why didn't the mother know this until the end of school year activity? I know that Tacoma isn't sunny, but this is scarcely the first time the kids went outside. If you have a kid who is allergic to bees, you darned well make sure that the school has the prescription bee sting kit there for your child. My own daughter would occasionally break out in hives. They couldn't isolate exactly what caused them, but I had benedryl (which is over the counter) and the doctor's recommendation at the school for her in case it happened. I didn't put it in her backpack and cry because no one would allow her to self-medicate!
  • ~Adrien~ Pele Em... 2012/06/26 00:17:48
    ~Adrien~
    +1
    Well, I don't know about Washington, but in IL, teachers and child care professionals are required by law to take responsibility for students in their care. I agree that the mother was negligent, but the school still has some responsibility to the children. (They could have called mom to bring the doctor's note, or not let the kids go on the field trip at all.) It seems really trivial to add sunscreen to a list of 'medicines' that are required to have a doctor's note anyway in my opinion. It's unfortunate that the children had to serve as a 'lesson learned' example for this mom and their school. It seems that the situation may have been from a rare ocassion of full-day sun none-the-less.
  • Alvin ~Adrien~ 2012/06/26 00:56:52
    Alvin
    +1
    Makes no difference. The schools have to work under an increasingly higher load of responsibilities, without any ability to correct the situation. The kids misbehave, they can't be punished, the kids do whatever they want and the schools are powerless to do anything but cover their collective butts, because parents no longer discipline their children or teach them manners, respect for others or respect for private property. But they sure yell cry and sue if their precious little baby gets sunburnt!
  • jaydenvdv 2012/06/25 23:24:54
    Don't Blame School
    jaydenvdv
    When schools get in trouble for putting a bandaide on kids how can you blame them for going to extreams??? And if the girl does have a form of "albinism" why couldnt she get the doctors note?
  • Selkets... jaydenvdv 2012/06/26 01:49:27
    Selketskiss
    +1
    Maybe the mother was just waiting for this to happen to sue the school...I would not put it past some of these parents looking for an easy payout...

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