255 Confirmed Sniper Kills: Chris Kyle a Hero or Villain?

Fef 2012/01/03 23:07:56
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The UK's Daily Mail reported on the deadliest sniper in US history:
255 confirmed kills: Meet Navy SEAL Chris Kyle... the deadliest sniper in US history
* Served four tours of duty in Iraq, where he gained the nickname 'The Devil of Ramadi' from insurgents
* Longest shot was a 2,100-yard strike against a man armed with a rocket launcher
* Prefers a bolt-action .300 Winchester Magnum custom sniper rifle
* Left the Navy after 10 years to 'save his marriage'

Chris Kyle hesitated the first time he killed a person at long range with a rifle. It was a woman who was about to attack a group of US Marines with a hand grenade.

War is hell. No doubt. The people who fight wars know this and they hate wars more than those sitting at home reading about the kill counts, politics and glossy media coverage.

Young men and women volunteer in America to serve their country. That sometimes means killing another human being in a far away land. For his service and distinguished duty, Mr. Kyle received three Silver Stars and five Bronze Stars with Valor.

Killing people doesn't come easy even to trained combat snipers. The article describes Mr. Kyle's first target -- a female insurgent. Mr. Kyle talks about his duty with humility and dignity. 'It was my duty to shoot the enemy, and I don’t regret it. My regrets are for the people I couldn’t save: Marines, soldiers, buddies. I’m not naive, and I don’t romanticize war. The worst moments of my life have come as a SEAL. But I can stand before God with a clear conscience about doing my job,' he told Texas Monthly.
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  • JAKE~PWCM~JLA 2012/01/03 23:20:37
    I have a professor who is a former marine intel sniper who has made shots over a mile... and I'm pretty sure Carlos Hathcock, a marine sniper during Vietnam had more, they just weren't confirmed. But in either case, this guy is a true American badass.

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  • FUS RO ... Centuri... 2012/01/04 17:53:58
    How do you know that they were all terrorists?
  • Centuri... FUS RO ... 2012/01/04 18:09:56
    We don't send snipers to shoot jaywalkers and child pornographers. If they got piercing headaches, they needed them.
  • Hobbitt / Oldsquid 2012/01/04 16:26:14
    Hobbitt / Oldsquid
    Certified Hero...From this retired Navy Chief fair wind and following seas Shipmate..
  • Wayne 2012/01/04 16:24:40
  • Arya 2012/01/04 16:13:42
    He is a HERO! How many American lives did he save? Countless...so yes, definitely a hero in my book!

    american snipers rock
  • judge Arya 2012/01/09 18:03:28
    A Hero would say, "I'm not going to fight in undeclared war".
  • Arya judge 2012/01/12 23:36:34
    Your definition of a hero is obviously quite a bit different than mine.
  • jr 2012/01/04 16:06:34
  • Wolfman 2012/01/04 15:56:07
    Thank you Navy SEAL Chris Kyle for your service.
  • Sister Jean 2012/01/04 15:54:39
    Sister Jean
    I could not do it I remember Audie  Murphy Audie  Murphy he killed many in WW 2 a hero
  • ETWolve... Sister ... 2012/01/04 17:54:52
    Auddie Murphy was the real deal.

    I always wondered what it must have been like for him to play himself in "To Hell And Back". He was certainly humble about his military accomplishments, and gave more recognition to his fallen comrades than he ever wanted for himself.

    Like I said, the real deal.
  • judge Sister ... 2012/01/09 18:07:44
    There are better ways to get men into heaven, don't you think? nun
  • Sister ... judge 2012/01/09 18:08:48
    Sister Jean
    so you would not fight for your country huh
  • judge Sister ... 2012/01/09 18:22:26
    82 Airborne, but that doesn't mean I quit thinking. Just thought it strange to hear a hawk nun. hawk nun
  • John Storz 2012/01/04 15:47:52
    John Storz
    Good on ya Kyle, thanks for your service
  • Lisa 2012/01/04 15:40:48
    He learned his job well and deserves that repect. He is an American Navy Seal Protecting and preserving America's freedoms.
  • FUS RO ... Lisa 2012/01/04 17:55:37
    He isn't protecting America's freedoms
  • tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA 2012/01/04 15:21:37
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    How could he be anything else? He's doing what he was trained and asked to do.

    And he's good at it.
  • Wahvlvke 2012/01/04 14:42:21
    The perfect example of good gun control.
  • Someone Else 2012/01/04 14:37:39
  • judge Someone... 2012/01/09 21:37:57
    Where can I get one and for how much?
  • Someone... judge 2012/01/10 15:09:01
    Someone Else
    Gander Mtn around $1800.00
  • Mr.Hoodz the Truth Troll 2012/01/04 13:51:35
    Moral Relativists Answer here...
    Mr.Hoodz the Truth Troll
    I can't call a killer a hero. He's just doing his job. I'll leave the judging to a ultimate power if one exist.
  • ETWolve... Mr.Hood... 2012/01/04 17:56:37
    Keep in mind that all Navy SEALs are volunteers... twice over. They first volunteer for the Navy or Marine Corps, and then volunteer again for the hell that is known as BUD/S training. That makes him more than just a guy who did his job.
  • Mr.Hood... ETWolve... 2012/01/04 21:09:20
    Mr.Hoodz the Truth Troll
    I know what type of training they must do and I will stay with my original comment. He is just doing his job.
  • ETWolve... Mr.Hood... 2012/01/04 21:13:42
    >>>I know what type of training they must do<<<

    No you probably don't. Many of the things that they do to BUD/S recruits are actually illegal to do to POWs under the Geneva Conventions.

    Kyle could have gotten a job on Wall Street and been doing his job... and getting rich doing it. Instead, he volunteered to serve his country in one of the toughest jobs in the military. That is automatically above and beyond doing his job.
  • Mr.Hood... ETWolve... 2012/01/04 21:23:09
    Mr.Hoodz the Truth Troll
    This question has nothing to do with training and everything to do with him killing the "enemy" 255 times. Seeing he is getting paid to kill those people he is doing his "job" (go see the meaning of the word).

    I don't deal with the why he's doing it thing. That's for folks like you to argue over.
  • ETWolve... Mr.Hood... 2012/01/05 15:30:19
    Like I said he could be "doing his job" at a bank, or on Wall Street, or in any career he chooses. He CHOSE to enter the military. He CHOSE to become a SEAL. He CHOSE to be a sniper. That makes all of this more than "just his job".

    Being a SEAL sniper is more than a job. That's the point you seem to be missing.

    And he doesn't get paid to kill people. He's not a contract killer. He gets paid to wear the uniform and do his duty. A contract killer is someone who is "just doing his job" and he gets paid on a per-job basis. Kyle took out a larger number of people than any contract killer ever has, and gets paid a hell of a lot less. Again, that makes what he has done far and above just "doing his job".
  • Cathy 2012/01/04 13:50:35
    He was trained in order to to his job for his country and that is to protect his country and kill the enemies!
  • Risk 2012/01/04 13:40:03
    He did his job and he did it well ! He should have gotten a big year end bonus !
  • Mark P. 2012/01/04 13:28:01
  • All American 2012/01/04 12:46:03
    All American
    From my point of view he saved the lives of countless soldiers and civilians, I'll pin the medal on him.
  • Ramon 2012/01/04 10:16:28
    He probably saved countless American lives by killing those who would kill American soldiers.
  • Playerazzi 2012/01/04 09:26:21
    I'm pro-America, so he's a hero.

    If anyone doesn't like that, they can go shove it up their keffiya.
  • BUCCANEER~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/01/04 09:14:40
    Moral Relativists Answer here...
    A professional doing his duty pure and simple,my respects to him
  • dallas 2012/01/04 08:31:51 (edited)
  • Playerazzi dallas 2012/01/04 09:28:32
    He was the best US sniper. Re-read the intro.
  • Risk dallas 2012/01/04 13:35:30
  • Hawk dallas 2012/01/04 17:26:40
  • ETWolve... dallas 2012/01/04 18:10:10
    Nobody said he was the best sniper ever. Just the best in US history.

    Also, keep in mind that there was a very big difference in the rules of engagement in WWII as compared to those in Iraq and Afghanistan. In WWII, if a sniper saw an enemy combatant, he was free to engage at will. In Iraq and Afghanistan, sniper operations need to be approved beforehand, and unless the enemy is actually getting ready to engage, permission to take the shot had to be obtained from higher authority before the shot could be taken. Therefore, while sniper kills were quite common in WWII, they were less so in Iraq.

    It would be interesting to have seen whether Kyle would have racked up the same number of kills as Hayha did under the same ROE. It might have been an interesting contest.

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