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2012: The End of America?

snipe 2012/01/04 20:09:11
Still wonder why obama is in such a rush to build his FEMA Camps? Still wonder why our own Military is being trained in riot control and detention procedures?




The following forecasts are based on trends that are and have been developing for months and years. Some are more likely than others. Some may never come to pass. Others are events that have a high probability of coming to pass, perhaps in 2012 or in the next few years. Whatever the case, they are scenarios that are, in many cases, interrelated . So, if you see one come to fruition, the chance that another will take place grows exponentially.


Europe Is Going Down


We don’t need to explain the seriousness of the situation in Europe other than to point out that Greece’s economic problems are nothing compared to Spain, Portugal, Italy and the combined eastern European nations. The entire European Union is under threat and we’ve heard talk of a potential break up of the currency, and even the possibility of countries exiting the EU altogether. Even Germany has discussed this possibility. The situation is dire and the only thing holding it up at this point is the same thing holding up the U.S. economy: monetary machinations. But, as Horace said (65 – 8 BC), “you can drive nature out with a pitchfork, she will nevertheless come back.“ The collapse of Europe is inevitable. It will not be stopped by more centralization. The Euro will be destroyed, and it may very well happen in 2012. In anticipation of the coming currency meltdown, the world’s largest lenders and investment firms are already pulling their money out of the European financial system and transferring those assets to perceived safety in US Treasuries and other instruments. We’re so close to a serious collapse in Europe that Britain has taken the unprecedented step of preparing evacuation plans for their citizens living in EU countries in case they are rendered penniless and without means to return to the UK when the Euro crashes. Other European governments are making contingency plans to deal with riots, violence and uprisings when the system goes critical.


Stocks Crash and Dollar Strengthens


You’ll know the European Union is in the midst of a waterfall collapse by watching stock markets, which will react violently and likely with unprecedented speed in their meltdown. While the big lenders and insiders may be exiting European investments, the general population, like Americans here at home, have no idea how bad the situation really is. It’ll happen when smaller investment houses and large individual investors start pulling out. This will cause a sell off of European debt, and subsequently European markets. As the money flows back into US dollars and the safety of treasuries, it will strengthen, possibly to multi-year highs. For a time we may see a repeat of 2008, where stocks and commodities collapse. The panic will build on itself, and investors who lost 40% or more of their money in 2008 will rush to exit in an attempt to avoid similar losses this time around. The negative feedback loop could send stock markets back to 2008 lows or lower. If it happens, it will be a panic unlike anything we’ve seen since 1929. Remember when stocks crashed 1000 points in a single day back in the 2010? Imagine that, but for real and for several days without reprieve


The Economic Depression of the 21st Century Goes Mainstream


The economy has been battered for years. Only those who are ignorant or refuse to pay attention don’t see that we are already in the midst of collapse. It’s happening right here and now. Most would still write-off a European collapse as “just a problem over there,” but since U.S. stock markets will collapse along with it, and this is how most people gauge economic health, it won’t be until Americans see their personal retirement savings destroyed that they start realizing there is no easy way out of this mess. Until the stock markets crashed in 2008 no one was talking about the recession that had already taken hold for three quarters prior to the Presidential election. This time, unlike 2008 where Americans figured it was just a typical eighteen month recession, millions who have lost their homes and livelihoods, and even those who still have shelter and gainful employment, will finally realize this is the real deal. The people will lose confidence in our government’s ability to mitigate the crisis and the depression will be apparent to everyone – even corporate media.


Real Estate Continues Slide


No, it’s not over yet. There has been no pause in the downward momentum of home prices, despite the government’s many efforts to instill confidence through tax breaks and rhetoric. Before it’s all said and done we will see a collapse of at least 50% in home prices (we already have in some regions of the U.S.), and we may even go the way of Japan, which saw a total decline from bubble to bust of some 75% after their real estate bubble burst in the 1990′s. During the Great Depression of the 1930′s, land was selling at pennies on the dollar, reportedly at 80% off the highs, so don’t dismiss this as a possibility in this Depression. It won’t all happen in 2012, but if stock markets crash and people lose money, they will be less likely to want to invest in a home, putting further pressure on the housing market. The only thing that real estate has going for it right now is low interest rates on loans, and those rates may remain low, especially if more money flows to the U.S. as a result of a debt collapse in Europe. For those wanting to buy with a mortgage, the next year or two may provide the final opportunity for low interest rate loans this decade. If the US dollar goes into crisis (see below) it means that interest rates will be rising. In the 1980′s we saw mortgage rates reach 15%. We don’t need to tell you what something like that would do to potential buyers and home prices. So, if you’re planning on paying in cash, you may want to hold off and let the market slide more. If you are going to take out a loan on a house, this may be a good time to find a deal, especially if the home/land you are buying will allow you to get out of major cities, produce your own food, and become more self reliant.


US Consumers Will Be Hit Hard - Food Assistance Participation Exceeds 50 Million


There are no jobs. Wages are stagnant. Inflation is destroying our standard of living. And things will only continue to worsen. In Broke and Hungry we predicted that over 50 million Americans will be on nutritional food assistance from the government by the summer of 2012. We will likely breach this threshold on schedule. Couple that with an economy that is showing negative growth and consumers who have spent their savings and taken on debt just to maintain some semblance of their former lives, and you have a recipe for disaster. We won’t even mention what rising oil prices will do if the situation in Iran goes hot-war (see forecast below). People are broke, and they aren’t seeing any trend changes in the way things are going. This and a complete distrust in the merger of government and business is what led to the Occupy protests of 2011. And it will be what leads to the next wave of civil unrest that is sure to grip major metropolitan areas in 2012 and beyond. #Occupy was nothing compared to what will happen on the streets of America when people can’t feed themselves and their families.


The Much Anticipated Dollar Collapse Is Coming


It won’t be long now, but a few things need to happen first. As we’ve discussed for a couple of years, there will be one more boom for the dollar, and it ill result from a panic run to safety when Europe goes under. This is happening now, and in due time we should see the US dollar regain its power. But this strengthening will be short-lived. As our economy delves further into depression and our gross domestic product goes officially negative (unofficially our economy is already shrinking) our government will run into a serious funding problem. President Obama is already looking for a $2 Trillion-plus debt ceiling increase (after Congress raised it over a trillion dollars in the summer of 2011). What kind of confidence do you think this instills in our lenders? The result will be higher interest rates as lenders will look to minimize their risk. On top of that, remember that we will probably have had a major stock market crash as a result of Europe, which means people will panic. Remember what happened in 2008? We printed trillions – trillions – of dollars to bailout failing institutions and the American public under the pretext that the system would be saved. It wasn’t. It’s going to be bigger this time, much bigger. The Fed and the Treasury will, of course, print even more. And, at some point our lenders will simply stop investing in the debt, no matter the interest rate. The dollar collapse will build up for a while, with interest rates rising to satiate the appetites of lenders, but eventually no one will be willing to put up any more money to fund a government that has no intention of ever paying it back. When the meltdown finally occurs it will be very fast, probably occurring over a period of days and weeks. We can only speculate about the consequences, but it’s quite likely we’re looking at a total paradigm shift in life as we know it today that will include violence and political uprising, as well as disruptions to food supplies and the normal flow of commerce.


Riots in the Streets


They laughed when we and others forecast widespread protest movements across America. Police were able to control the masses in 2011. This may not be the case in 2012. Any number of events can set off demonstrations, and there is a strong likelihood we will see them again this year, and for years to come. They will get progressively more violent. At some point we predict that it won’t just be the police engaging in beatings. The people will turn. They’ll turn on local businesses. They’ll turn on each other. They’ll turn on the police. The Molotov cocktails will start flying, and when they do we can expect the same response from our government that we saw in Egypt and what we’re now seeing in Syria where thousands of protesters have reportedly been killed by the Syrian military.


Deployment of U.S. Military On The Streets of America


It won’t take much for the President to declare an emergency or designate a certain area a battle zone at which point the United States military can and will be immediately deployed to quell civil unrest. If the economy gets as bad as we think it will, we can fully expect a significant response from the populace. Whether by chance or design, protests will eventually erupt into violence, and when that happens the President will be “left with no other choice” because our militarized police forces simply won’t be able to contain the situation. It’s been reported that over 20,000 U.S. troops have been trained in riot control and detention procedures, and that the Pentagon is actively preparing for large scale economic collapse and the civil unrest that would follow. They are ready. They need only a catalyst. It may happen in 2012, but it would require widespread, extreme circumstances to be justified, but be assured that there are those in our government who are more than willing and ready to pull the trigger.


Game Changer: FEMA Detainment Centers Open For Business


They didn’t build the scores of Federal Emergency Management Agency camps around the country for nothing. Purported to be for the protection of refugees in the event of mass evacuations, the camps are believed by some to be used for various contingencies, one of which is the mass detainment of American citizens. While it may have sounded like a conspiracy just a year ago, with the passage of the National Defense Authorization Act, which allows for the detainment of US citizens without a trial, it is becoming increasingly clear that the tin foil hatters were on to something. According to a recent report, FEMA is activating the camps and the US military has posted job opportunities for Internment and Resettlement Specialists. Hard to imagine, yes. Impossible? We’ll let you decide. But consider this: If the US military is ever deployed on the streets of America they will be detaining thousands of individuals. Do you think the local or county jail will have room for them?




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  • Rabbit 2012/02/02 00:13:34
    Rabbit
    +1
    Great post Snipe...sorry I'm late with this.
  • snipe Rabbit 2012/02/02 01:07:33
    snipe
    +1
    Better late than never. Thanks for stopping by.
  • tea for you 2012/02/01 13:13:58 (edited)
    tea for you
    +1
    what a pile of crap . If anybody took the time and looked at the links. They'd know they are joke sites mainly for adolescents. Many of the conservatives are people with arrested development syndrome . We already know that conservatism encourages sheeple and that conservatism is popular with no so smart people . It doesn't take a lot of brains to follow . We can see this phenomenon in the conservative leadership
  • snipe tea for... 2012/02/01 23:51:04
  • tea for... snipe 2012/02/02 08:30:03
    tea for you
    busted you're lying blog into pieces . Next time get it right dude
  • snipe tea for... 2012/02/02 15:05:21 (edited)
    snipe
    +1
    You didn't bust nothin', ya big cry baby! Lol at your whinin' you whimp. Have some Tea, you seem blue.
  • tea for... snipe 2012/02/02 15:08:53
    tea for you
    why are you're links so pathetic , I looked at them and thought of a teen
  • snipe tea for... 2012/02/02 15:14:47
    snipe
    +1
    I looked at your profile and thought the same!
  • tea for... snipe 2012/02/02 15:22:20
    tea for you
    don't be looking at my junk dude
  • snipe tea for... 2012/02/02 15:40:20
    snipe
    +1
    Then don't post your junk, tinkerbell!
  • tea for... snipe 2012/02/02 15:41:45
    tea for you
    you peeked at my profile cupcake
  • snipe tea for... 2012/02/02 15:48:11
    snipe
    +1
    Take it down, then, and do us all a favor, cake boy!
  • tea for... snipe 2012/02/02 15:50:58
    tea for you
    why would i do you a favor?
  • snipe tea for... 2012/02/02 15:57:46
    snipe
    +1
    Because all you progressive/marxists claim to be so caring. Now, here's your chance to prove it.
  • tea for... snipe 2012/02/02 15:58:53
    tea for you
    ha ha ha snipe , I'm not any of those things , you can't prove a negitive
  • snipe tea for... 2012/02/03 00:25:56
    snipe
    +1
    Well, since Democrats and Liberals no longer exist you must be one or the other. So, which is it?
  • The Birdman ~ PWCM~JLA 2012/02/01 11:14:11
    The Birdman ~ PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Bad times ahead, bad times already! Know your God!
  • Kara ~~~ American Patriot 2012/02/01 06:24:29
  • nukenova 2012/01/09 16:35:21 (edited)
    nukenova
    +1
    Still to many nay-sayers to believe this is coming.Blind eyes to facts, to many anti-gunners,to many ball sports fans focused on championships instead of government happenings,to many people with their head's in the sand.To many atheists not listening to the end times teachings calling them fantasy and not relevant to your times.All of the things for told are occurring before your eyes.How about bringing the army home without discharge.An Army trained in urban warfare.Does any of this give YOU cause for concern?
  • Chamii 2012/01/07 00:45:54
    Chamii
    im waiting for people to go extinct... would be amusing ^-^
  • bettyboop 2012/01/06 19:46:25
    bettyboop
    +2
    Help us GOD!
  • Hawk 2012/01/06 14:48:23
    Hawk
    +3
    Great post snipes if obama is re-elecyed this country will be gone. Wake up Americans we can take it back.
  • jesse 2012/01/05 20:58:32
    jesse
    +3
    Yes, too many Americans dont understand the causation the deliberate illness
    creeping upon America and the world, but Ron Paul knows and has the cure for
    the 2012 death rattle!
  • Drifter 2012/01/05 16:47:31
    Drifter
    +4
    When Liberal MSM touts an unknown opponent of the current regime and armed forces are pulled out of foreign countries you need be aware of the impending doom.
  • Semper Fi 2012/01/05 14:57:33
    Semper Fi
    +4
    If Obama is re-elected, Yes.
  • rustyshackelford 2012/01/05 13:58:38
  • Luke 2012/01/05 13:15:01
    Luke
    +5
    It will be if Americans don't wake up and take it back.!!
  • redhorse29 2012/01/05 09:42:51
    redhorse29
    +1
    Mark Slavo is busy again. Don't sell your house and move to the country base on his predictions. Was skimming his blog site. He has nothing of value to contribute and less wisdom worth reading. Read your own tea leaves. Roll your own bones and sticks. You will be able to make just as informed predictions and Slavo.
  • Ishmael 2012/01/05 09:05:50
    Ishmael
    Those who still have Faith in the System have yet to experience it Fully. A Song for the coming Economic collapse. Diana Krall covers the old Mose Allison tune, "Stop this World":

  • Gregaj7 2012/01/05 06:33:39
    Gregaj7
    Really pushing for it, aren't they?
  • davidl 2012/01/05 05:44:17
    davidl
    +1
    3 words ... tin foil hat
    tin foil hat
  • kaZappoo 2012/01/05 04:44:42
    kaZappoo
    +7
    we've had these discussions before ,,, we know what possible ....and whats probible ....

    the denialists will deny these things .......

    GREAT POST SNIPE !!!

    the best things we can do for our selves is to be prepared .....!

    and self survivalists .......and not rely on govt ....that will be a mistake !
  • Space Invader 2012/01/05 03:05:00
    Space Invader
    +7
    pays to prepare
  • FairLady 2012/01/05 02:55:29
    FairLady
    +10
    If Obie stays in the White House 4 more years, then for sure, Bye America we knew.
  • Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F 2012/01/05 02:28:04
    Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F
    +5
    Depends on what happens in November. Or if the rumors of Summer 2012 riots come to pass.
  • ol_crank_arm 2012/01/05 01:49:20 (edited)
    ol_crank_arm
    +2
    This federation will survive economic calamity, however extreme it unfolds. And extreme it WILL be, across the planet. BUT ... few today understand why it will occur. Let me explain ...



    Virtual 'money', (aka: banknotes and account 'credits') is a self destructive scheme because currency is exclusively brought into existence as loaned principal at interest. To raise the funds necessary to service the interest (remember interest MUST come from somewhere ELSE, other than the principal) it can ONLY be further borrowed into existence as loaned currency at interest ... TOO.



    Now we have a complex compounding of interest on ALL CURRENCY IN CIRCULATION! Even worse still, the interest forces ever more new currency at interest ... INTO INFINITY! They co-generate each other without end. THAT'S why NEITHER (pretended) political faction in government office will, or even CAN, stop 'spending' and creating increasingly ballooning debt ... IN YOUR NAME AND THAT OF YOUR PROGENY. You see, they're NOT 'spending', so much as BORROWING new currency into existence to 'keep ahead' of the complex compounding of the interest (plus enough more to keep YOU from rioting in the streets (a little bread and circus anyone?).



    Despite the FACT that this indescribably stupid 'monetary system' WILL implode, my confi...
    This federation will survive economic calamity, however extreme it unfolds. And extreme it WILL be, across the planet. BUT ... few today understand why it will occur. Let me explain ...



    Virtual 'money', (aka: banknotes and account 'credits') is a self destructive scheme because currency is exclusively brought into existence as loaned principal at interest. To raise the funds necessary to service the interest (remember interest MUST come from somewhere ELSE, other than the principal) it can ONLY be further borrowed into existence as loaned currency at interest ... TOO.



    Now we have a complex compounding of interest on ALL CURRENCY IN CIRCULATION! Even worse still, the interest forces ever more new currency at interest ... INTO INFINITY! They co-generate each other without end. THAT'S why NEITHER (pretended) political faction in government office will, or even CAN, stop 'spending' and creating increasingly ballooning debt ... IN YOUR NAME AND THAT OF YOUR PROGENY. You see, they're NOT 'spending', so much as BORROWING new currency into existence to 'keep ahead' of the complex compounding of the interest (plus enough more to keep YOU from rioting in the streets (a little bread and circus anyone?).



    Despite the FACT that this indescribably stupid 'monetary system' WILL implode, my confidence comes from the fact that we (The People) can turn on a dime to continue our daily commerce without a single banknote, by making our own REAL MONEY from copper, silver and gold (being especially careful THIS time to keep ANY of it from the slimy hands of politicians and bankers). All we need are each other, not any pompous self-aggrandizing roosters in government offices.
    (more)
  • kaZappoo ol_cran... 2012/01/05 04:53:28
    kaZappoo
    +4
    and the majority of the financial "matterial " is numbers in a computer screen " not matterial
    ( paper / coins / silver /gold )....

    this was another mistake ........./\
  • johnnie.prewett 2012/01/05 01:26:24
    johnnie.prewett
    +5
    Economic collapse designed to make the world enthusiastically welcome and support the coming world dictator predicted by the Revelation. Revelation 13 forward will come to pass before your eyes. "Marking" now not only technologially feasible,.... it's inevitable.

    [but it is NOT "inevitable" that you personally take it]
    The Rev reveals the saved will NOT take the "mark"
  • kaZappoo johnnie... 2012/01/05 04:57:39
    kaZappoo
    +3
    AMEN ......./\

    but too many deny this .....I'm with ya though ......./\
  • I'm History 2012/01/05 01:08:34
    I'm History
    Again ???????

    the sky is falling

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