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The reason it is surfacing now is because trayvon has given it legs.
This happens almost everyday and black hardly ever get justice when it is wrong. This is what black try to get whites to see but they cant because it rarely happens to them and if it does they get justice.
You Said, " she was resisting ". This is true but ask yourself this.............
If you were walking home from the store and a cop pulled up beside you and told you to stoip. Then asked your name and then told you to turn around and put your hands behind your back without reason what would you do. ???
I know you would probably say that you would comply but you may not be from a neighborhood where it happens 3x a week. Cops constantly arresting and harassing your neighborhood.
Not once did he say, " Miss you are out past curfew and i have to take you to the station and have your parents pick you up." The officer did nothing to calm her accept to threaten force. She is 15 and obviously had never dealt with the police before accept seeing others arrested maybe.
explain 3% of a states population making up 70% of the people arrested and 60% of those in prison (iowa). It is a sub-conscience thinking that a lot of 3th gen american whites have. It was a house hold teaching that blac...
The reason it is surfacing now is because trayvon has given it legs.
This happens almost everyday and black hardly ever get justice when it is wrong. This is what black try to get whites to see but they cant because it rarely happens to them and if it does they get justice.
You Said, " she was resisting ". This is true but ask yourself this.............
If you were walking home from the store and a cop pulled up beside you and told you to stoip. Then asked your name and then told you to turn around and put your hands behind your back without reason what would you do. ???
I know you would probably say that you would comply but you may not be from a neighborhood where it happens 3x a week. Cops constantly arresting and harassing your neighborhood.
Not once did he say, " Miss you are out past curfew and i have to take you to the station and have your parents pick you up." The officer did nothing to calm her accept to threaten force. She is 15 and obviously had never dealt with the police before accept seeing others arrested maybe.
explain 3% of a states population making up 70% of the people arrested and 60% of those in prison (iowa). It is a sub-conscience thinking that a lot of 3th gen american whites have. It was a house hold teaching that blac...
This is a repost:
The reason it is surfacing now is because trayvon has given it legs.
This happens almost everyday and black hardly ever get justice when it is wrong. This is what black try to get whites to see but they cant because it rarely happens to them and if it does they get justice.
You Said, " she was resisting ". This is true but ask yourself this.............
If you were walking home from the store and a cop pulled up beside you and told you to stoip. Then asked your name and then told you to turn around and put your hands behind your back without reason what would you do. ???
I know you would probably say that you would comply but you may not be from a neighborhood where it happens 3x a week. Cops constantly arresting and harassing your neighborhood.
Not once did he say, " Miss you are out past curfew and i have to take you to the station and have your parents pick you up." The officer did nothing to calm her accept to threaten force. She is 15 and obviously had never dealt with the police before accept seeing others arrested maybe.
explain 3% of a states population making up 70% of the people arrested and 60% of those in prison (iowa). It is a sub-conscience thinking that a lot of 3th gen american whites have. It was a house hold teaching that blacks do all the crime and that they are not to be trusted. It was also a teaching that when the lynching whites of the south had their kids with them when they lynched. As if to say watch we are gonna show ya how to treat blacks.
So even if you are not a racist cop. You give less respect to blacks and you are more likely to harass them or negate their civil rights to freedom. Like freedom to walk from the store or freedom to hang in a parking lot.
Its not right and white need to re-evaluate how they approach blacks and how they respect us also. his is not Jim Crow.
Out of compassion for a frantic and confused child he should have attempted to calm her down by explaining what was happening to her and why she had to be handcuffed.
As he said on the video " You are very small and you are gonna get hurt". He recognized she was freaking out and that she was very frail. Why did he not explain at that point?
It was because she is black and maybe he thought she knows what happening or She doesn't need an explanation, or even she better obey me or i will whoop her ass.
You haven't seen it up until now because blacks know that whites would think it doesn't matter they are only 3/5ths of a human anyway.
And you know what, he probably didn't even know he was thinking that cause he is a victim too.
(more)The reason it is surfacing now is because trayvon has given it legs.
This happens almost everyday and black hardly ever get justice when it is wrong. This is what black try to get whites to see but they cant because it rarely happens to them and if it does they get justice.
You Said, " she was resisting ". This is true but ask yourself this.............
If you were walking home from the store and a cop pulled up beside you and told you to stoip. Then asked your name and then told you to turn around and put your hands behind your back without reason what would you do. ???
I know you would probably say that you would comply but you may not be from a neighborhood where it happens 3x a week. Cops constantly arresting and harassing your neighborhood.
Not once did he say, " Miss you are out past curfew and i have to take you to the station and have your parents pick you up." The officer did nothing to calm her accept to threaten force. She is 15 and obviously had never dealt with the police before accept seeing others arrested maybe.
explain 3% of a states population making up 70% of the people arrested and 60% of those in prison (iowa). It is a sub-conscience thinking that a lot of 3th gen american whites have. It was a house hold teaching that blacks do all the crime and that they are not to be trusted. It was also a teaching that when the lynching whites of the south had their kids with them when they lynched. As if to say watch we are gonna show ya how to treat blacks.
So even if you are not a racist cop. You give less respect to blacks and you are more likely to harass them or negate their civil rights to freedom. Like freedom to walk from the store or freedom to hang in a parking lot.
Its not right and white need to re-evaluate how they approach blacks and how they respect us also. his is not Jim Crow.
Out of compassion for a frantic and confused child he should have attempted to calm her down by explaining what was happening to her and why she had to be handcuffed.
As he said on the video " You are very small and you are gonna get hurt". He recognized she was freaking out and that she was very frail. Why did he not explain at that point?
It was because she is black and maybe he thought she knows what happening or She doesn't need an explanation, or even she better obey me or i will whoop her ass.
You haven't seen it up until now because blacks know that whites would think it doesn't matter they are only 3/5ths of a human anyway.
And you know what, he probably didn't even know he was thinking that cause he is a victim too.
So what is everyone doing about it.
NOTHING!!!
Absolutely Nothing.
If you would not be forgotten
As soon as you are dead and rotten,
Either write things worthy reading,
Or do things worth the writing.
~ Ben Franklin
The reason it is surfacing now is because trayvon has given it legs.
This happens almost everyday and black hardly ever get justice when it is wrong. This is what black try to get whites to see but they cant because it rarely happens to them and if it does they get justice.
You Said, " she was resisting ". This is true but ask yourself this.............
If you were walking home from the store and a cop pulled up beside you and told you to stoip. Then asked your name and then told you to turn around and put your hands behind your back without reason what would you do. ???
I know you would probably say that you would comply but you may not be from a neighborhood where it happens 3x a week. Cops constantly arresting and harassing your neighborhood.
Not once did he say, " Miss you are out past curfew and i have to take you to the station and have your parents pick you up." The officer did nothing to calm her accept to threaten force. She is 15 and obviously had never dealt with the police before accept seeing others arrested maybe.
explain 3% of a states population making up 70% of the people arrested and 60% of those in prison (iowa). It is a sub-conscience thinking that a lot of 3th gen american whites have. It was a house hold teaching that blac...
The reason it is surfacing now is because trayvon has given it legs.
This happens almost everyday and black hardly ever get justice when it is wrong. This is what black try to get whites to see but they cant because it rarely happens to them and if it does they get justice.
You Said, " she was resisting ". This is true but ask yourself this.............
If you were walking home from the store and a cop pulled up beside you and told you to stoip. Then asked your name and then told you to turn around and put your hands behind your back without reason what would you do. ???
I know you would probably say that you would comply but you may not be from a neighborhood where it happens 3x a week. Cops constantly arresting and harassing your neighborhood.
Not once did he say, " Miss you are out past curfew and i have to take you to the station and have your parents pick you up." The officer did nothing to calm her accept to threaten force. She is 15 and obviously had never dealt with the police before accept seeing others arrested maybe.
explain 3% of a states population making up 70% of the people arrested and 60% of those in prison (iowa). It is a sub-conscience thinking that a lot of 3th gen american whites have. It was a house hold teaching that blacks do all the crime and that they are not to be trusted. It was also a teaching that when the lynching whites of the south had their kids with them when they lynched. As if to say watch we are gonna show ya how to treat blacks.
So even if you are not a racist cop. You give less respect to blacks and you are more likely to harass them or negate their civil rights to freedom. Like freedom to walk from the store or freedom to hang in a parking lot.
Its not right and white need to re-evaluate how they approach blacks and how they respect us also. his is not Jim Crow.
Out of compassion for a frantic and confused child he should have attempted to calm her down by explaining what was happening to her and why she had to be handcuffed.
As he said on the video " You are very small and you are gonna get hurt". He recognized she was freaking out and that she was very frail. Why did he not explain at that point?
It was because she is black and maybe he thought she knows what happening or She doesn't need an explanation, or even she better obey me or i will whoop her ass.
You haven't seen it up until now because blacks know that whites would think it doesn't matter they are only 3/5ths of a human anyway.
And you know what, he probably didn't even know he was thinking that cause he is a victim too.
This happens almost everyday and black hardly ever get justice when it is wrong. This is what black try to get whites to see but they cant because it rarely happens to them and if it does they get justice.
You Said, " she was resisting ". This is true but ask yourself this.............
If you were walking home from the store and a cop pulled up beside you and told you to stoip. Then asked your name and then told you to turn around and put your hands behind your back without reason what would you do. ???
I know you would probably say that you would comply but you may not be from a neighborhood where it happens 3x a week. Cops constantly arresting and harassing your neighborhood.
Not once did he say, " Miss you are out past curfew and i have to take you to the station and have your parents pick you up." The officer did nothing to calm her accept to threaten force. She is 15 and obviously had never dealt with the police before accept seeing others arrested maybe.
explain 3% of a states population making up 70% of the people arrested and 60% of those in prison (iowa). It is a sub-conscience thinking that a lot of 3th gen american whites have. It was a house hold teaching that blacks do all the crime and that the...
This happens almost everyday and black hardly ever get justice when it is wrong. This is what black try to get whites to see but they cant because it rarely happens to them and if it does they get justice.
You Said, " she was resisting ". This is true but ask yourself this.............
If you were walking home from the store and a cop pulled up beside you and told you to stoip. Then asked your name and then told you to turn around and put your hands behind your back without reason what would you do. ???
I know you would probably say that you would comply but you may not be from a neighborhood where it happens 3x a week. Cops constantly arresting and harassing your neighborhood.
Not once did he say, " Miss you are out past curfew and i have to take you to the station and have your parents pick you up." The officer did nothing to calm her accept to threaten force. She is 15 and obviously had never dealt with the police before accept seeing others arrested maybe.
explain 3% of a states population making up 70% of the people arrested and 60% of those in prison (iowa). It is a sub-conscience thinking that a lot of 3th gen american whites have. It was a house hold teaching that blacks do all the crime and that they are not to be trusted. It was also a teaching that when the lynching whites of the south had their kids with them when they lynched. As if to say watch we are gonna show ya how to treat blacks.
So even if you are not a racist cop. You give less respect to blacks and you are more likely to harass them or negate their civil rights to freedom. Like freedom to walk from the store or freedom to hang in a parking lot.
Its not right and white need to re-evaluate how they approach blacks and how they respect us also. his is not Jim Crow.
Out of compassion for a frantic and confused child he should have attempted to calm her down by explaining what was happening to her and why she had to be handcuffed.
As he said on the video " You are very small and you are gonna get hurt". He recognized she was freaking out and that she was very frail. Why did he not explain at that point?
It was because she is black and maybe he thought she knows what happening or She doesn't need an explanation, or even she better obey me or i will whoop her ass.
You haven't seen it up until now because blacks know that whites would think it doesn't matter they are only 3/5ths of a human anyway.
And you know what, he probably didn't even know he was thinking that cause he is a victim too.
I'm sure you're familiar with Dr. Francis Cress Welsing author of the Isis Papers. Do you think what we're seeing in this video supports her theory?
I'm pointing the double standards that people have, most find it unacceptable for a mugger to take someone's money to raise funds to get drugs (Most muggers are druggies), ohh but a thug in costume setting out to take someone's freedom away, to confine them to a concentration camp on behalf of the organization called government is acceptable, right!
Don't get me wrong - in my opinion the only good cops are retired or dead. But SOMEONE needs to enforce the laws - necessary evils: sometimes necessary, always evil.
I'd say he gave the young lady plenty of opportunity to cooperate. Not doing anything wrong is not an excuse to resist arrest.
"Or should the dude with the biggest gun rule everyone else?" Let's talk about weaponry, is manufacturing of weaponry a good use of this planet's resources? Would tyranny be possible without weaponry?
So your claim is that legal system which are in place to enforce tyranny are what's keeping civilization alive, really? Try telling that to egalitarian societies which laugh at those of us living in state systems.
An egalitarian system is an economic system based on equality, no private ownership of resources, nobody having to go through someone else to get anything, nobody controlling resources, nobody with the ability to prevent you from getting the things you need at all!
What I advocate for is a technological egalitarian economic system which is what the Zeitgeist Movement, The Buckminster Fuller Institute, and the Venus Project advocate for.
In a scientifically orientated economic system based entirely on resource management there would be no politics, there would be what works, and what doesn't and what does work would always prevail, it would be the diametrical opposite of what we have now under this cancerous economic system we have around the planet which is to make the point very clear, NO DIFFERENT WHETHER YOU'RE IN NORWAY, AMERICA, OR CUBA!!!!!
What I advocate for is eliminating these things called countries so people can have freedom of movement which is something we don't have now under this cancerous economic system that is in place around the world today, this is one pl...
An egalitarian system is an economic system based on equality, no private ownership of resources, nobody having to go through someone else to get anything, nobody controlling resources, nobody with the ability to prevent you from getting the things you need at all!
What I advocate for is a technological egalitarian economic system which is what the Zeitgeist Movement, The Buckminster Fuller Institute, and the Venus Project advocate for.
In a scientifically orientated economic system based entirely on resource management there would be no politics, there would be what works, and what doesn't and what does work would always prevail, it would be the diametrical opposite of what we have now under this cancerous economic system we have around the planet which is to make the point very clear, NO DIFFERENT WHETHER YOU'RE IN NORWAY, AMERICA, OR CUBA!!!!!
What I advocate for is eliminating these things called countries so people can have freedom of movement which is something we don't have now under this cancerous economic system that is in place around the world today, this is one planet, and needs to be ran accordingly.
My world would be absolutely free of governments, corporations, academic institutions, and religions! Free of admins on the internet, management office in apartment complexes, free of any management, any type of authoritarianism!
Everyone is equal in the Maasai tribes are equal - so long as they are male and Maasai (they did not gain the reputation as great warriors because of the gardens they grew). Weapons are a necessity as they war with other tribes. No nationalism? Tribalism is definitely rampant among the Maasai.
What about justice and laws? Does "egalitarian" apply to the Maasai people? They actually have courts of elders that decide how to apply their mostly oral laws.
And are the Maasai a civilization that pre-dates our modern societies? We don't know an awful lot about them. Their oral histories reach back around 600 years, but they have many tribal offshoots and branches throughout their history - you know, kind of like England spawning the United States....and England has been around for more than a thousand years!
No, you're going to have to come up with something better than the Maasai before you're going to convince me that only egalitarian societies are truly civilized.
You can read any anthropology text book, and see the oldest existing societies are egalitarian societies, they pre date any state system by a very long time, some of them date back upwards of 100,000 years.
And European nations and their offshoots have been around for over a thousand years.
I'm still waiting to view the utopia you think you've found.
An egalitarian economic system is one in which is NOBODY is EVER hindered from living their life to the fullest because there aren't any of the barriers that exist in the monetary system, and other related economic systems such as feudalism, chattel slavery, and barter, there's no need to ever go through anyone to get anything, NOBODY CONTROLS RESOURCES! So every individual is free to contribute their talents to society, to improve society, and in turn improve themselves with NO barriers!
I need to clarify something, Egypt has been around for over 1,000 years, some countries in Europe like the UK, Germany, Switzerland have been around over a thousand years, nobody's denying that, however, those societies have collapsed, and collapsed hard, and have had to rebuild because those are societies based on the monet...
An egalitarian economic system is one in which is NOBODY is EVER hindered from living their life to the fullest because there aren't any of the barriers that exist in the monetary system, and other related economic systems such as feudalism, chattel slavery, and barter, there's no need to ever go through anyone to get anything, NOBODY CONTROLS RESOURCES! So every individual is free to contribute their talents to society, to improve society, and in turn improve themselves with NO barriers!
I need to clarify something, Egypt has been around for over 1,000 years, some countries in Europe like the UK, Germany, Switzerland have been around over a thousand years, nobody's denying that, however, those societies have collapsed, and collapsed hard, and have had to rebuild because those are societies based on the monetary system which is a cancerous economic system.
So in the short time those societies have been around, and that is a very short time by comparison to many egalitarian, look at how dysfunctional they have been, now compare that with the societies I have mentioned, and all other existing egalitarian societies that are around today that have not been destroyed by state systems, THOSE SOCIETIES HAVE NEVER NEEDED TO BE REBUILT BECAUSE THEY NEVER COLLAPSE!
And don't use the term utopia with me again, I'm not talking about a final frontier system that is impossible, if that were the case I would say let's all go live like the primitive egalitarian societies, and that is not what I am advocating for, I am using them as a model since there are no TECHNOLOGICAL egalitarian societies in existence yet, emphasis on YET. The closest thing I can think of to that would be the Linux Community, however the Linux community has it's short comings.
What I am advocating is a TECHNOLOGICAL egalitarian economy globally. Eliminating these things called countries so we finally experience ACTAUL freedom on this planet!
So I go to get my "whatever" back and find that he's guarding it closely. So I go in and kill him and take back what's mine. That's okay because there is no central authority, and I can do whatever I need to do to reclaim what's mine.
But now he comes over with his entire clan and starts killing my family. But that's okay because there is no central authority, and it's up to me to protect myself. So I get all my neighbors together, and we now have a turf.....
Why do I find myself right back at turf, which becomes clans, and later tribes.....all the precursors to countries!
I don't understand where you get the idea that things would end up any differently. I look at the Maasai people, whom you mentioned before. They have split off into different tribes many times. Which one is the original? They all carry the oral histories, maybe none of them are the original. Any chance that the original collapsed, and all we have are the spin-offs, taking the credit for being the original Maasai?
A technological egalitarian economy globally would eliminate the need for any kind of geographical boundaries hence eliminating these things called countries which I am very firmly against because as long as these things called countries exist, there is no freedom of movement, when you have to have these stupid sheets of paper called passports, and visas just to go somewhere you have no freedom of movement, and without freedom of movement there is no freedom period!
The kind of issue you're bringing only happens in societies based on the monetary system, and other related cancerous economic system such as feudalism, barter, and chattel slavery, because those are all SCARCITY DRIVEN economic system, egalitarian is the diametrical o...
A technological egalitarian economy globally would eliminate the need for any kind of geographical boundaries hence eliminating these things called countries which I am very firmly against because as long as these things called countries exist, there is no freedom of movement, when you have to have these stupid sheets of paper called passports, and visas just to go somewhere you have no freedom of movement, and without freedom of movement there is no freedom period!
The kind of issue you're bringing only happens in societies based on the monetary system, and other related cancerous economic system such as feudalism, barter, and chattel slavery, because those are all SCARCITY DRIVEN economic system, egalitarian is the diametrical opposite, it's centered around PROPER management of resources, and EFFICIENT use of resources so that scarcity in the environment is PREVENTED, see the difference?
That is why egalitarian societies have the best environmental records, and the most peaceful societies because there is no poverty, no crime, no disease, no neuroses, those things only occur in cancerous economic systems such as the monetary system which we all live under now unfortunately.
As to your question about Massai, I honestly don't know how to answer that question, I would have to do research on these spin offs you're referring to, and I will consider the source because some sources are more credible than others, for example I have found anthropologists to be much more credible than historians because historians ignore egalitarian societies in there research, they only study state systems, they pretend as if there was no human population prior to the rise of state systems.
So in answer to your scenario you draw, if neither you, nor the other party are living in a deprived environment, than what motivation would there be for that kind of conflict you're talking about?