14 dead, 50 injured in Aurora, Colorado after a movie theater shooting after midnight last night, should James Holmes get the death penalty?

by Goducks5 Posted 2012/07/20 17:45:05

Related Topics: Death Penalty, Movie, Colorado, Movie Theater, Penalty, Shooting

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Denny 2012/07/20 19:29:40

Yes

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I was in the Philipines back in 69 in school for a few weeks and on the TV newscast Mrs Marco's was giving a speech and then shaking hands with the peeples. One guy stepped back and pulled a machette and started for the first lady. She put up her arms taking the blows on them before the guards got to the guy. They drug him away behind the stage and all you heard was two shots. Trial over.
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P. Sturm 2012/09/14 05:35:04

No

A wrathful citizen should have killed him in the act, or a police officer. If the state engages itself in his cold blooded execution, it validates his murders by example.

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Monkeyvet to P. Sturm 2012/09/15 04:56:05

I'm ok with that!

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yg 2012/07/25 05:27:20

Undecided

I'm thinking that he might be crazy and need to go to a mebtal hospital or something. I thought that it was 12 dead and 59 injured though. I'm just confused about everything in this case. Why would someone do this?

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Kozmo 2012/07/21 22:46:25

Undecided

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Can't (ethically) answer as it'll soon be "Before the Court".
Spreading gossip can compromise him getting a Fair Trial as is his Constitutional Right.
Let Sober Head prevail please People.

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robinswebnest 2012/07/21 19:32:49

Yes

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I am tired of people trying to 'figure out why he did it'. It is enough that he did do it. I wish for a quick end to this monster and any others who do the same. Enough with bleeding hearts. Think of the vitims, not the murderer. He lost all rights to consideration when he went on his shooting spree.

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Ray the Dog! 2012/07/21 17:25:57

Yes

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Absolutely- without the shadow of a doubt.....

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PandoraBoxe 2012/07/21 16:30:28

Undecided

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Such sadness... madness in the world. Need to figure out what got him to that point before I decide.....

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jules 2012/07/21 16:24:35

Undecided

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He should but already there are many on death row now and years pile up before the deed is finally done. These criminals sit on their butts for years. what good is that?

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Goducks5 to jules 2012/07/21 17:09:29

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In my opinion, he should be executed the day after his trail. It would only be six months from now though. It always takes a while for the trail but I'm okay with that. I'm not okay with the people on death row sitting on death row for 20 years.

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jules to Goducks5 2012/07/21 17:40:12

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I agree. They sit on death row for 20 years and that isn't justice at all.
I also agree 100% about a waste of tax dollars as well.

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Goducks5 to jules 2012/07/21 17:46:21

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He would have been doing us a favor if he killed himself at the scene.

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jules to Goducks5 2012/07/22 15:21:18

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Yeh, other past mass murderers did that!
Just this morning I was reading in today's paper a new article and it talked about how Holmes had been ordering all kinds of ammunition and stuff over the internet.
So this article says sure there were the usual background checks on this "slime" and he had no criminal background, BUT when someone orders that much ammo and given the background check finding no prior crimes, seeing this guy was ordering all of this stuff, they should have dug deeper to see if he was in any law enforcement and then finding he wasn't, should be a red flag right there that these purchases were questionable, and then possibly have been stopped. Don't you think? There should be a law for that practice.

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Kozmo to jules 2012/07/21 22:55:39

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This is the 'benefit of a Doubt' of Due Process taken too far. There was a teenager up here who, with another fellow, teased, tortured & then drowned another (unpopular & bullied, I was one myself). She's has 3 separate trials, all guilty but either her attorneys or her got yet another one, can't they give up?

This 'Decades of Delay' is only benefiting the Legal System on the Public Dime.

Timothy McVeigh was a notable (& deserving - Treason) exception.

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MandaLynne 2012/07/21 05:50:19

Undecided

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While the evidence is overwhelming that he is guilty, he still has the right of presumed innocence - this is still the United States of America.

If he is found guilty, then yes, apply the death penalty.

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Monkeyvet to MandaLynne 2012/07/21 15:58:53

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Hummm, let's see. Evidence is overwhelming that he is guilty. Duh, he was caught wearing all the gear, in possession of the guns and had more in his car, his appartment was rigged to explode when entered. IF HE IS FOUND GUILTY? He is guilty beyond suspicion. Where there is no doubt of guilt, I believe the family members of those lost deserve immediate satisfaction that the the wrong committed has been made right. Still, even his death will do little to provide closure to the family members that sustained such heart breaking loss. None the less, he deserves nothing less than the death penalty.

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MandaLynne to Monkeyvet 2012/07/21 21:05:05

Yes, I know he is guilty, but there is no predicting what a jury might decide which is why I said "if". We all know that guilty people are sometimes acquitted, regardless of the evidence. (OJ Simpson comes to mind)

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jumpboots 187th PIR 2012/07/21 03:31:03

Yes

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Of all the people there,no had a weapon. Strange.........

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Kozmo to jumpboo... 2012/07/21 23:02:26 (edited)

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Colorado doesn't allow folks to bear concealed weapons, if someone in the theatre was packing & shot (perhaps hitting an innocent in the process) s/he would (most) likely had charges pressed against him/her as well.

Reminds me of what a WalMart up here did when someone (obliviously) taken an unpaid item from the store, went back to ammend and got charged & fully prosecuted as a result. Hence I don't shop there.

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jumpboo... to Kozmo 2012/07/22 04:39:58

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I did not know that,thank's for the info.

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GlennDiamant 2012/07/21 03:14:00 (edited)

No

No, he's only a boy, too young. Young and dumb. However, he should do some jail time.

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Goducks5 to GlennDi... 2012/07/21 03:22:32 (edited)

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He's 24, he's an adult. Even if he was 14, he still deserves the death penalty. A 5 year old knows murder is wrong. You are ignorant. No normal person goes around killing random people. He killed a 6 year old also.

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Kozmo to Goducks5 2012/07/21 23:03:58 (edited)

It now before the court, let the Judge decide.

Revenge won't bring the victims back, just spread the bitterness.

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Monkeyvet to GlennDi... 2012/07/21 15:50:12

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He is 24 years old, the act was meticulously planned to the point of rigging his apt with explosives to cause maximum loss of life to police and fire personnel and surrounding tenants. George Stinney 14 years old convicted of the murder of two girls named Betty June Binnicker (11) and Mary Emma Thames (8) who were both found in a muddy hole. The girls suffered severe fractures to their skulls, inflicted by a railroad spike found some distance from the town. George confessed to the crime and said that he wanted to have sex with Betty but ended up killing the girls. He was tried and sentenced to death in the electric chair. Young and Dumb are not an excuse to take so many innocent lives causing anguish and pain to hundreds of relatives. Some jail time, get real, where is your head?

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CTF 2012/07/21 02:35:25

Yes

+1
Absolutely

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Arel 2012/07/21 02:04:51

Yes

+1
Absolutely.

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Catnip 2012/07/21 00:06:26

Yes

+2
12 dead, including a 6-year-old girl. He needs to die!

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Goducks5 to Catnip 2012/07/21 02:23:24

+1
It was reported 14 dead, at about 2:30 last night. They changed the number to 12 though.

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Catnip to Goducks5 2012/07/22 02:25:19

+1
The original report was 15 dead when I awoke to the news. This prick still has to die though.

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jubil8 BN-0 PON 2012/07/20 22:46:06

No

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You're making quite an assumption, Goducks.

Even if Holmes had done it, he'd be innocent until proven guilty.

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Goducks5 to jubil8 ... 2012/07/21 02:24:50 (edited)

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They got a search warrant to search his apartment and they found explosions in his house. He obviously did it. He's guilty until proven innocent, you usually are nowadays in this country but it's obviously he did it.

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jubil8 ... to Goducks5 2012/07/21 04:57:09

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Earlier it seemed like people were suggesting ABC might have made a mistake naming him. If he's still in custody, and his house was rigged, a case against him is sounding more solid.

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Monkeyvet to jubil8 ... 2012/07/21 16:06:29

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In most cases I would agree. We have to do everything humanly possible to prevent executing the wrong person. But this case is different, he was caught within minutes. Had all the gear and weapons. What more proof do we need of guilt? Presumption of innocence in my opinion, applies where there is little evidence or only circumstantial evidence supporting the accusation.

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jubil8 ... to Monkeyvet 2012/07/21 17:07:08

There are also "justifications" like self-defense and mental defect. I suspect that one will come into play here.

Not disagreeing with you, just saying the rules of the system are designed to give every break to the accused.

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Kozmo to jubil8 ... 2012/07/21 23:12:45

Not necessarily, the lawyers for the Uno Bomber wanted to use the Insanity Plea but the the client refused so he's been dealt with duly.

Conversely, 4 years in Manitoba, some dude decapitated and ate parts of a fellow bus passenger because he thought the victim was an ET, he's now allowed to go out on escorted leave. Another killer was found to have Fetal Alcohol Syndrome & has been fully excused.

Goes Both Ways but this is going to extremes, we need some Moderation.

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relic 2012/07/20 22:32:10

Yes

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But the liberals will block him actually being put to death.

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mich52 2012/07/20 22:18:10

Yes

+2
In cases of multiple murders where there is no doubt of the guilt definitely Yes, No appeals either..

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darwolf 2012/07/20 22:10:23

Yes

+1
Yes

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Marianne 2012/07/20 22:05:35

Undecided

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I don't know if death penalty is a solution; I would vote for life imprisonment.

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Kozmo to Marianne 2012/07/21 23:15:22

At least, taking a life won't return the lost one.
Likely be cheaper than spending decades on Death Row as is the routine now..

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Marianne to Kozmo 2012/07/22 08:29:20

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Maybe cheaper, but you said it: taking a life won't return the lost ones.

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