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12-Year-Old Girl Explains What Most Economists Can't About Money and Debt
Victoria Grant told a conference that governments, not banks, should create and lend a nation's money--and a video of her talk has gone viral on the Internet.



The youtube video of 12 year old Victoria Grant speaking at the Public Banking in America conference last month has gone viral, topping a million views on various websites.

Monetary reform—the contention that governments, not banks, should create and lend a nation’s money—has rarely even made the news, so this is a first. Either the times they are a-changin’, or Victoria managed to frame the message in a way that was so simple and clear that even a child could understand it.

Basically, her message was that banks create money “out of thin air” and lend it to people and governments at interest. If governments borrowed from their own banks, they could keep the interest and save a lot of money for the taxpayers.

She said her own country of Canada actually did this, from 1939 to 1974. During that time, the government’s debt was low and sustainable, and it funded all sorts of remarkable things. Only when the government switched to borrowing privately did it acquire a crippling national debt.

Borrowing privately means selling bonds at market rates of interest (which in Canada quickly shot up to 22%), and the money for these bonds is ultimately created by private banks. For the latter point, Victoria quoted Graham Towers, head of the Bank of Canada for the first twenty years of its history. He said:

Each and every time a bank makes a loan, new bank credit is created — new deposits — brand new money. Broadly speaking, all new money comes out of a Bank in the form of loans. As loans are debts, then under the present system all money is debt.

Towers was asked, “Will you tell me why a government with power to create money, should give that power away to a private monopoly, and then borrow that which parliament can create itself, back at interest, to the point of national bankruptcy?” He replied, “If Parliament wants to change the form of operating the banking system, then certainly that is within the power of Parliament.”

In other words, said Victoria, “If the Canadian government needs money, they can borrow it directly from the Bank of Canada. The people would then pay fair taxes to repay the Bank of Canada. This tax money would in turn get injected back into the economic infrastructure and the debt would be wiped out. Canadians would again prosper with real money as the foundation of our economic structure and not debt money. Regarding the debt money owed to the private banks such as the Royal Bank, we would simply have the Bank of Canada print the money owing, hand it over to the private banks, and then clear the debt to the Bank of Canada.”

Problem solved; case closed.

But critics said, “Not so fast.” Victoria might be charming, but she was naïve.

One critic was William Watson, writing in the Canadian newspaper The National Post in an article titled “No, Victoria, There Is No Money Monster.” Interestingly, he did not deny Victoria’s contention that “When you take out a mortgage, the bank creates the money by clicking on a key and generating ‘fake money out of thin air.’” Watson acknowledged:

Well, yes, that’s true of any “fractional-reserve” banking system. Even before they were regulated, even before there was a Bank of Canada, banks understood they didn’t have to keep reserves equal to the total amount of money they’d lent out: They could count on most depositors most of the time not showing up to take out their money all at once. Which means, as any introduction to monetary economics will tell you, banks can indeed “create” money.

What he disputed was that the Canadian government’s monster debt was the result of paying high interest rates to banks. Rather, he said:

We have a big public debt because, starting in the early 1970s and continuing for three full decades, our governments spent more on all sorts of things, including interest, than they collected in taxes. . . . The problem was the idea, still widely popular, from the Greek parliament to the streets of Montreal, that governments needn’t pay their bills.

That contention is countered, however, by the Canadian government’s own Auditor General (the nation’s top accountant, who reviews the government’s books). In 1993, the Auditor General noted in his annual report:

[The] cost of borrowing and its compounding effect have a significant impact on Canada’s annual deficits. From Confederation up to 1991-92, the federal government accumulated a net debt of $423 billion. Of this, $37 billion represents the accumulated shortfall in meeting the cost of government programs since Confederation. The remainder, $386 billion, represents the amount the government has borrowed to service the debt created by previous annual shortfalls.

In other words, 91% of the debt consists of compounded interest charges. Subtract those and the government would have a debt of only C$37 billion, very low and sustainable, just as it was before 1974.

Mr. Watson’s final argument was that borrowing from the government’s own bank would be inflationary. He wrote:

Victoria’s solution is that instead of paying market rates the government should borrow directly from the Bank of Canada and pay only token rates of interest. Because the government owns the bank, the tax revenues it raises in order to pay that interest would then somehow be injected directly back into the economy. In other words, money literally printed to cover the government’s deficit would be put into circulation. But how is that not inflationary?

Let’s see. The government can borrow money that ultimately comes from private banks, which admittedly create it out of thin air, and soak the taxpayers for a whopping interest bill; or it can borrow from its own bank, which also creates the money out of thin air, and avoid the interest.

Even a 12 year old can see how this argument is going to come out.

Ellen Brown is an attorney, author, and president of the Public Banking Institute. Her latest book is Web of Debt.
© 2012 Independent Media Institute. All rights reserved.
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  • elptrek P.H.A.E.T.'s wizard 2012/06/05 09:01:50
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  • A Lionheart 2012/06/05 02:55:25
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    She makes sense.
  • Butch 2012/06/04 16:16:47
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    the concept is attrative with only a few questions. 1. when the banks no longer have the government as a money cow? THEY WILL HAVE TO CALL THE LOWNS. 2. when the banks CALL the outstanding loans, who can pay them? NO ONE !

    THAT IS DAY ONE OF TOTAL THE END.

    OOPS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE 12 YEAR OLD DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD FINISH WITH ALL THE FACTS. OOPS !!!
  • POWERSHAKER 2012/06/04 08:30:57
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    Yep. That kid knows what she's talking about. She's right on the money. :)
  • James 2012/06/04 02:35:14
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    Doesn't matter how you get your money, if your expenses are greater than your income, there's a problem.
  • VICTORIA 2012/06/04 02:00:56
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    She has been well schooled in basic finance.

    And has reduced economics to their core.

    Yes, even a 12 year old.
  • Gloria 2012/06/03 23:11:21
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    Can she come here ASAP?
  • C. C. Rider 2012/06/03 22:32:38
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    WE have just met a future President of this country. I hope so.
  • Gloria C. C. R... 2012/06/03 23:14:34
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    She's Canadian but she can come here anytime as far as I am concerned.
  • C. C. R... Gloria 2012/06/03 23:49:08
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    lol That is what I get for being in a hurry!! Thank you. Hopefully she will run Canada some day then.
  • David Lindner 2012/06/03 22:03:44
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    a product of leftist social engineering.
  • VICTORIA David L... 2012/06/04 02:02:15
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    And yet, you cannot find the flaw in her reasoning!
  • David L... VICTORIA 2012/06/04 02:05:05
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    I didn't even read it to be honest.
  • VICTORIA David L... 2012/06/04 02:26:09
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    Well, no- you didn't- because the text was in response to the video. So there was nothing to read.
    But I DO appreciate your honesty- you are honest.
  • GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~612 BLOCKT 2012/06/03 21:37:05
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    My God, she sure has got it. Now if only the Republicans in America would see it. However, they need them banks (and other special interest groups) to fund their campaigns. Why would they want to change the system when it works so well for them. They love crony capitalism.
  • Chuck GuruA2J... 2012/06/04 11:56:44
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    FYI It has always been the Republicans that have tried to get the Federal Reserve audited, (and sometimes Democrats - like President John F. Kennedy for example and when he pushed it to the limit, they killed him) but to no avail. You see, when a small group of people have so much control over an unlimited sum of money, they can hire ANYTHING to be done, and they generally do. The problem with our "money" is that it has no real value. It is merely a piece of paper with so much ink and figures. It's no different than you and I writing on a piece of paper that I did some work for you and now I can take the piece of paper to the grocer, who happens to be a friend and yours, and mine, and he will give me some food, and then he will take that piece of paper to the canneries or bakeries, and exchange it for more food to trade off to someone else, and each time the piece of paper is exchanged for something, a little piece of the paper is torn off and kept by all those making the exchanges until there is nothing left of the original piece of paper, and then we start all over. However, if WE, you and I, have been told that it is illegal for us to write such a piece of paper, and that we have to hire someone to print it for us, and then we pay those printers a fee for doing so, w...
    FYI It has always been the Republicans that have tried to get the Federal Reserve audited, (and sometimes Democrats - like President John F. Kennedy for example and when he pushed it to the limit, they killed him) but to no avail. You see, when a small group of people have so much control over an unlimited sum of money, they can hire ANYTHING to be done, and they generally do. The problem with our "money" is that it has no real value. It is merely a piece of paper with so much ink and figures. It's no different than you and I writing on a piece of paper that I did some work for you and now I can take the piece of paper to the grocer, who happens to be a friend and yours, and mine, and he will give me some food, and then he will take that piece of paper to the canneries or bakeries, and exchange it for more food to trade off to someone else, and each time the piece of paper is exchanged for something, a little piece of the paper is torn off and kept by all those making the exchanges until there is nothing left of the original piece of paper, and then we start all over. However, if WE, you and I, have been told that it is illegal for us to write such a piece of paper, and that we have to hire someone to print it for us, and then we pay those printers a fee for doing so, well, you can see how easily we lose out simply because we have to pay someone else for work that they did not do and give them part of our food or other exchange items they do not deserve. It's called 'usury'. The Zionist Jew Bankers, said, "Let all the others do the work and we'll print the pieces of (worthless) paper and we will end up owning everything because we own the printing presses and we will keep a little bit of that paper from every one that uses it for exchange purposes. And owning the world is exactly what they have done, using the U.S. dollar as the world currency.
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  • Dweezle 2012/06/03 19:19:23
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    Wise beyond her years.
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/06/03 19:18:23
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    Of course that would upset the Democrats plans for the cherished century they have nurtured America forgetting theior evil plans on the verge of being realized.
  • VICTORIA jackola... 2012/06/04 02:02:41
  • Steve 2012/06/03 18:53:25
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    She is largely correct. Yes, any form of money creation can be inflationary. But when that process is the exclusive domain of private banks, money creation and destruction is unstable.

    And the vast bulk of money in circulation has been created by private banking, and can evaporate at the hands of private banking. This is intrinsically unstable because of positive feedback mechanism that CAUSE "the business cycle."

    Why? Because when the economy develops simple FEAR, then banks cut down on lending, which contracts the money supply, slowing the economy further, creating more fear. Positive feedback.

    Only the entity that controls the currency can make more available in the face of fear, and reign it in when the economy overheats--exactly the opposite of what any private bank would do.

    Sorry, die-hard Capitalists, capitalism fails at the task of establishing a stable money supply.
  • Næthan Æterna 2012/06/03 18:37:51
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    I want the Government to touch my money LESS than it does already. I will pass on this one.
  • C-ZAR™, Emperor of the PHÆT 2012/06/03 18:37:50
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