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10 Differences between Conservatives And Liberals

Southern Man 2012/11/24 13:28:50
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Conservatives and liberals approach almost every issue with
completely different philosophies, underlying assumptions, and methods.
That's why it's so hard to find genuine compromise between conservatism
and liberalism -- because not only are liberals almost always wrong,
their solutions almost always make things worse.

With that in mind, let me take a few moments to explain some of the key differences between liberals and conservative to you.

Bonus) Conservatives believe that judges should act like
umpires instead of legislating from the bench. That means that judges
should determine whether laws are permissible under the Constitution and
settle debates about the meaning of laws, not impose their will based
on their ideological leanings. Liberals view judges as a backdoor method
of getting unpopular left-leaning legislation passed. They don't want
umpires, they want political partisans in black robes who will side with
them first and then come up with a rationale to explain it.

10) Conservatives believe that individual Americans have a
right to defend themselves and their families with guns and that right
cannot be taken away by any method short of a Constitutional Amendment,
which conservatives would oppose. Liberals believe by taking arms away
from law abiding citizens, they can prevent criminals, who aren't going
to abide by gun control laws, from using guns in the commission of
crimes.

9) Conservatives believe that we should live in a color
blind society where every individual is judged on the content of his
character and the merits of his actions. On the other hand, liberals
believe that it's ok to discriminate based on race as long as it
primarily benefits minority groups.

8) Conservatives are capitalists and believe that
entrepreneurs who amass great wealth through their own efforts are good
for the country and shouldn't be punished for being successful. Liberals
are socialists who view successful business owners as people who
cheated the system somehow or got lucky. That's why they don't respect
high achievers and see them as little more than piggy banks for their
programs.

7) Conservatives believe that abortion ends the life of
an innocent child and since we believe that infanticide is wrong, we
oppose abortion. Most liberals, despite what they'll tell you, believe
that abortion ends the life of an innocent child, but they prefer
killing the baby to inconveniencing the mother.

6) Conservatives believe in confronting and defeating
enemies of the United States before they can harm American citizens.
Liberals believe in using law enforcement measures to deal with
terrorism, which means that they feel we should allow terrorists to
train, plan, and actually attempt to kill Americans before we try to
arrest them -- as if you can just send the police around to pick up a
terrorist mastermind hiding in Iran or the wilds of Pakistan.

5) Conservatives, but not necessarily Republicans (which
is unfortunate), believe it's vitally important to the future of the
country to reduce the size of government, keep taxes low, balance the
budget, and get this country out of debt. Liberals, and Democrats for
that matter, believe in big government, high taxes, and they have never
met a new spending program they didn't like, whether we will have to go
into debt to pay for it or not.

4) Conservatives believe that government, by its very
nature, tends to be inefficient, incompetent, wasteful, and power
hungry. That's why we believe that the government that governs least,
governs best. Liberals think that the solution to every problem is
another government program. Even when those new programs create new
problems, often worse than the ones that were being fixed in the first
place, the solution is always....you guessed it, another government
program.

3) Conservatives are patriotic, believe that America is a
great nation, and are primarily interested in looking out for the good
of the country. That's why we believe in "American exceptionalism" and
"America first." Liberals are internationalists who are more concerned
about what Europeans think of us and staying in the good graces of the
corrupt bureaucrats who control the UN than looking out for the best
interests of this nation.

2) Conservatives, most of them anyway, believe in God and
think that the Constitution has been twisted by liberal judges to
illegitimately try to purge Christianity from the public square. We also
believe, most of us anyway, that this country has been successful in
large part because it is a good, Christian nation and if our country
ever turns away from the Lord, it will cease to prosper. Liberals, most
of them anyway, are hostile to Christianity. That's why, whether you're
talking about a school play at Christmas time, a judge putting the Ten
Commandments on the wall of his court, or a store employee saying "Merry
Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays," liberals are dedicated to
driving reminders of Christianity from polite society.

1) Conservatives believe in pursuing policies because
they're pragmatic and because they work. Liberals believe in pursuing
policies because they're "nice" and make them feel good. Whether the
policies they're advocating actually work or not is of secondary
importance to them.

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  • Tasine 2012/11/24 14:11:14
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    Tasine
    +10
    Great post. John Hawkins almost always belts it out of the park, and this is no exception! There are liberty lovers and there are controllers. Guess which is which?

    The left NEEDS the FORCE of law to get what they want. Without forcing others to do the silly and inane things the left needs them to do, the left would have to sometimes accept defeat, which it doesn't know how to do. It is OBVIOUSLY the left which is out of step, otherwise it wouldn't need big government, big courts, and big prisons to keep the rest of us in step with them. When we refuse to stay in step with them anyway, they whine and whimper in an attempt to shame us into going along with their insanity.

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  • Lee 2012/12/02 11:11:32
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    Lee
    What a bunch of Bull Sh*t.

    Self-described "Conservatives" are America's Enemy Number ONE.

    They're just way too dumb to know it.

    As a Moderate, I'm in a good position to realistically see and recognize the huge amount of damage wreaked upon this nation by America's Right Wing.
  • HistoryBuff782 2012/11/27 08:13:11
    I'm a cry baby
    HistoryBuff782
    +1
    For a second there, I actually thought you were going to provide an intelligent, genuine argument. However, I guess that's too much to expect from such a cesspit of ignorance like this site.
  • robert History... 2012/12/17 12:48:42
    robert
    It was intelligent..you dont like cold hard facts...you prefer your liberal BS..
  • elijahin24 2012/11/27 00:00:49
    I'm a cry baby
    elijahin24
    +1
    There is one primary difference between Conservatives and Liberals; and that difference informs every position that each one holds on the issues that matter. The difference is this: Conservatives primary focus is punishing the guilty, while Liberals primary focus is on helping those in need. Conservatives are willing to throw under the bus, any woman who genuinely needs an abortion, any poor person who genuinely needs welfare, or any person who can't afford health insurance; if that's what it takes to punish those who would abuse those programs.
    Liberals, by contrast, are willing to tolerate abuse of the programs we support, if that is what it takes to help those who need them.
  • robert elijahin24 2012/12/17 12:50:52
    robert
    Punish the guilty? How about being honest and say we expect accountability and integrity..in who needs help
  • elijahin24 robert 2012/12/18 14:19:31
    elijahin24
    No, because we all want that. The only major difference, is that in order to prevent those who are NOT honest, you're willing to hurt those who are.
  • ««Gingey, the Master Debate... 2012/11/26 03:01:14
    I'm a cry baby
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    +3
    More polarizing BS.
  • A Lionheart 2012/11/26 02:06:02
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    A Lionheart
    +3
    What a putrid pile of bull dung. You blame Obama for dividing the nation and post garbage like this? You are the problem loser.

    Loser
  • sockpuppet 2012/11/25 22:16:06
    I agree
    sockpuppet
    +2
    This is a good article... thanks!
  • Lee sockpuppet 2012/12/02 11:12:40
    Lee
    It's a bogus bunch of Bull Sh*t.

    . . . . directed toward Right Wingers, because they're the only ones dumb enough to believe it.
  • sockpuppet Lee 2012/12/02 13:59:07
    sockpuppet
    +1
    Almost every point describes the differences between the two perfectly. If you know anything about Conservatism and Liberalism, there's very little to fault here. It's a bit critical of Liberals, for sure... it's supposed to be. But the facts are all present and correct.

    What, exactly, do you think is wrong?
  • Lee sockpuppet 2012/12/02 18:39:45 (edited)
    Lee
    What exactly do you think is right?

    Give me one example sockpuppet.

    Pick the best one you can think of, and I'm reasonably sure I can present plenty of evidence and logic to the contrary.
  • sockpuppet Lee 2012/12/02 20:24:33
    sockpuppet
    +2
    OK... just as a handy example,

    ---
    #9: "Conservatives believe that we should live in a color blind society where every individual is judged on the content of his character and the merits of his actions. On the other hand, liberals believe that it's ok to discriminate based
    on race as long as it primarily benefits minority groups."
    ---

    All the double standards and special treatment given to minorities pretty well speaks for itself. If we recognize a difference in skin color, we're racists. Unless we're Liberals-- then, we're "progressive".

    Minorities get preferential treatment for hiring, and are more difficult to fire, once they've been handed the job. Training and experience counts for nothing, if the racial quotas haven't been met.

    Standards are lowered for minority college applicants as though they're not as capable or intelligent as whites, for some reason.

    We have the NAACP, the NCBM, BET and FUBU --among many others-- all aggressively ethnic, and all blessed by The Left. But if *any* group qualified its membership or agenda with whiteness, they'd be lambasted as racist KKK clones.

    The idea that reverse discrimination doesn't exist is ridiculous, yet Liberals insist that this is the case. Just another example of obvious double standards that are somehow invisible to Liberals.

    So, Conservatives are pushing for equality, while Liberals favor... something else.
  • Lee sockpuppet 2012/12/03 00:51:06 (edited)
    Lee
    That’s what I thought. You’re delusional. The Great Right Wing Hive Mind completely dominates your thought processes. You should realize however, that the Great Right Wing Hive Mind is not very smart . . . And it lies a LOT.

    Today’s self-described Conservatives operate almost completely on pretense.

    They pretend to be what they are not.

    Conservatives judge on merits or actions? Bull Sh*t. Conservatives make judgments based on prejudices that favor the wealthy, the White, and the established.

    Here’s an interesting case in point: GW Bush lambasted Affirmative Action at Michigan State because it unfairly gave precedence to minorities. But GW Bush himself benefited from a form of affirmative action to get into college.

    He never would have gotten into Yale with his low SAT scores and his C average standing in Prep School. But as the son of a rich and distinguished Yale Alumnus, dumb ol’ GW gained admittance to Yale through what is a called a LEGACY ADMISSION . . . and legacy admission’s are a form of affirmative action.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/0...

    “They may not have had an explicit point system at Yale in 1964, but Bush clearly got in because of affirmative action. Affirmative action for the son and grandson of alumni. Affirmative action for a member of a politically influentia...













    That’s what I thought. You’re delusional. The Great Right Wing Hive Mind completely dominates your thought processes. You should realize however, that the Great Right Wing Hive Mind is not very smart . . . And it lies a LOT.

    Today’s self-described Conservatives operate almost completely on pretense.

    They pretend to be what they are not.

    Conservatives judge on merits or actions? Bull Sh*t. Conservatives make judgments based on prejudices that favor the wealthy, the White, and the established.

    Here’s an interesting case in point: GW Bush lambasted Affirmative Action at Michigan State because it unfairly gave precedence to minorities. But GW Bush himself benefited from a form of affirmative action to get into college.

    He never would have gotten into Yale with his low SAT scores and his C average standing in Prep School. But as the son of a rich and distinguished Yale Alumnus, dumb ol’ GW gained admittance to Yale through what is a called a LEGACY ADMISSION . . . and legacy admission’s are a form of affirmative action.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/0...

    “They may not have had an explicit point system at Yale in 1964, but Bush clearly got in because of affirmative action. Affirmative action for the son and grandson of alumni. Affirmative action for a member of a politically influential family. Affirmative action for a boy from a fancy prep school. These forms of affirmative action still go on.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPO...

    And let’s not forget Mitt, Who Ain’t Sh*t, Romney. While other 18 year olds were fighting and dying in Viet Nam, Bully Boy Mitt forcibly cut the hair of a fellow student he considered to be too girly, while cowed classmates held him down. Wow . . . How brave of the strapping young son of the most powerful man in Michigan!

    And later, of course, M*tt almost became Commander in Chief of this nation’s armed forces. But based on what? On experience? On aptitude? On integrity? Hell no. Based on the fact that he was born a child of privilege, and on the fact that he INHERITED a legacy of power and position and business and political networks.

    And yet you say that “"Conservatives believe that we should live in a color blind society where every individual is judged on the content of his character and the merits of his actions.” What a crock of Bull Sh*t!

    Face it Sockpuppet . . . You Right Wingers are all about pretense and lies. You lie to yourselves. And you lie to each other. But when you lie to reasonable people, you’d better expect us to call Bullsh*t.

    So . . . Bullsh*t.

    Know what I mean? . . . LIAR
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  • sockpuppet Lee 2012/12/03 05:48:59
    sockpuppet
    +1
    Blind to your double standards... probably willfully so, judging by your attitude here. Can't even begin to defend yourself on this one, won't even try. Anecdote and accusation is hardly logic and evidence.

    You forgot to call me a "racist" which threw me for a loop, though. I was sure you'd knee-jerk it in the first paragraph. :O)

    And I'm not a Right Winger. I'm a fiscal Conservative who leans leftward on various social issues, like abortion, euthanasia, stem-cells, secularity and gay marriage.

    But the list at the top of this poll remains relevant and true. Liberals never were very good at taking criticism on board.
  • Lee sockpuppet 2012/12/03 13:05:59 (edited)
    Lee
    lol . . . Logic and evidence is logic and evidence.

    With what SPECIFICALLY do you disagree? . . .

    Are you suggesting that Legacy Admissions are not a form of Affirmative Action?

    Come on Loud Mouth. Let's here something besides empty noise.

    As a Moderate, I can't speak for Liberals, but I am in a pretty good postion to see how extremism has damaged this nation.

    And it is America's Right Wing that is packed with extremists.

    It is what it is, and you are what you are. Don't shoot the messenger.

    Again Sockpuppet . . . With what SPECIFICALLY did you disagree?

    Are you having a little trouble focusing on specifics?

    Are you incapable of credibly supporting your point of view?

    You're not alone. That's true of the entire Political Right Wing.

    You got Nuthin'. Prejudice, lies, and bombast are not substance.
  • sockpuppet Lee 2012/12/03 14:16:35
    sockpuppet
    +1
    Everything I said is true. I was specific and concise. All you're doing is ranting about the GOP... no logic or evidence to contend with.

    I did as asked, you took off on a generic diatribe. And you can't tell the difference. You are indeed a Liberal... you bear all the marks.

    And finally... calling me "prejudiced" because you've been caught out on the "racism" thing... priceless.
  • Lee sockpuppet 2012/12/03 14:24:59 (edited)
    Lee
    " . . . specific and concise" my A$$.

    All you offered is Ad Hominem BS.

    You didn't defend your position at all, you Weak A$$ed Punk.

    I repeat . . .

    With what SPECIFICALLY do you disagree? . . .

    Are you suggesting that Legacy Admissions are not a form of Affirmative Action?

    What's the matter sockpuppet?

    . . . Afraid to answer a direct question?
  • sockpuppet Lee 2012/12/03 14:39:49
    sockpuppet
    +1
    Ad Hominem...? The whole discussion concerns the differences between Conservatives and Liberals. You asked, I told you and you went off on an unrelated rant about Bush, Romney and extremism.

    Talk about what we're talking about and stop trying to be clever.
  • Lee sockpuppet 2012/12/04 02:16:29 (edited)
    Lee
    The topic YOU advanced for discussion is affirmative action and "preferential treatment."

    You brought it up. And I showed you how your assumptions are wrong.

    Stick to the topic, instead of trying to dance around it.

    I repeat . . .



    Are you suggesting that Legacy Admissions are not a form of Affirmative Action?

    Come on you gutless worm.

    Let's hear you support your claims . . .

    Otherwise, you will only show that your claims are unsupportable and that you are a . . . DUMB A$$.

    Know what I mean? . . . COWARD.

    It's funny how all these big bad Right Wingers are such weaklings when it comes to logically defending their claims.

    lol
  • sockpuppet Lee 2012/12/04 04:12:40
    sockpuppet
    +1
    Affirmative action is about race, creed, color and national origin. Research it yourself.

    What is wrong with you, anyway? Talk like a grownup.
  • Lee sockpuppet 2012/12/04 14:25:38 (edited)
    Lee
    As a Right Wing Idiot, you obviously cannot comprehend simple syllogisms.

    The moronic GW Bush benefited from a type of affirmative action when he was admitted to Yale.

    He didn't have the grades expected of other students, and he didn't have the smarts. And he didn't and doesn't have much in the way of integrity. He got into Yale anyway, while hundreds of more qualified students were rejected.

    What GW had was an influential family that opened doors for him.

    And it is only loopy Right Wingers who respect entrenched power and disrespect useful change and innovation . .

    . . . Right Wing Reactionaries, like the Tories who fought for King George III against the upstart Continental Army and the new United States, a Progressive nation led by Liberal thinkers.

    Self-described "Conservatives" (Reactionaries like you and your peers) continuously hold this nation back from achieving success. That's why every face on Mount Rushmore belongs to a President who was a Progressive in his time.

    Gosh, I hope they left enough room on Mt Rushmore for Obama's likeness . . . Don't you?
  • sockpuppet Lee 2012/12/04 14:29:27
    sockpuppet
    LOL... you're just being a penis. Nice trying to talk to you.
  • robert sockpuppet 2012/12/17 12:55:07
    robert
    +1
    Your right.."its" a race baiter!
  • robert sockpuppet 2012/12/17 12:54:12
    robert
    +1
    Liberals favor "entitlements" but only if the vote for liberals....obamas campaign workers told the poor voters "obama had your back now we need you to have his back"..their motivated to create liberal voters with their free money
  • sockpuppet robert 2012/12/17 13:55:20
    sockpuppet
    +1
    You got it! Led deeper into the welfare trap with a free cellphone. We as a nation deserve what we get.
  • robert sockpuppet 2012/12/18 00:29:36 (edited)
    robert
    +1
    We sure do especially if we dont start changing our thinking!
  • sockpuppet robert 2012/12/18 01:01:07
    sockpuppet
    +1
    Too late for that. We hit the tipping point during Clinton. Now they have the borders wide open, citizenship and welfare for all.
  • robert sockpuppet 2012/12/18 02:54:52
    robert
    +1
    We got the lord...and thats no smallfry!
  • VoiceOfReason 2012/11/25 17:41:02 (edited)
    I'm a cry baby
    VoiceOfReason
    +1
    My take on the Liberal comments...Since obviously the Liberal opinion was written by a conservative.



    Bonus) Conservatives believe that judges should act like umpires instead of legislating from the bench. That means that judges should determine whether laws are permissible under the Constitution and

    settle debates about the meaning of laws, not impose their will based on their ideological leanings.



    Liberals view judges as a necessary to right the wrongs of laws and policies that are unjust. Judges should not legislate from the bench but we all know that it happens on both sides of the politics. For instance the court ruling for Citizens United by the Supreme Court and The Affordable Health Care Act. The statement about conservatives thinking that judges should not base there rulings on ideological leanings is laughable because it is so prevalent with the right leaning Supreme Court.





    10)Conservatives believe that individual Americans have a right to defend themselves and their families with guns and that right cannot be taken away by any method short of a Constitutional Amendment, which conservatives would oppose.



    Liberals believe that guns are a right provided by the constitution but there are limits as to what right a citizen should have with regard to types of arms and ease...















































































    My take on the Liberal comments...Since obviously the Liberal opinion was written by a conservative.



    Bonus) Conservatives believe that judges should act like umpires instead of legislating from the bench. That means that judges should determine whether laws are permissible under the Constitution and

    settle debates about the meaning of laws, not impose their will based on their ideological leanings.



    Liberals view judges as a necessary to right the wrongs of laws and policies that are unjust. Judges should not legislate from the bench but we all know that it happens on both sides of the politics. For instance the court ruling for Citizens United by the Supreme Court and The Affordable Health Care Act. The statement about conservatives thinking that judges should not base there rulings on ideological leanings is laughable because it is so prevalent with the right leaning Supreme Court.





    10)Conservatives believe that individual Americans have a right to defend themselves and their families with guns and that right cannot be taken away by any method short of a Constitutional Amendment, which conservatives would oppose.



    Liberals believe that guns are a right provided by the constitution but there are limits as to what right a citizen should have with regard to types of arms and ease of getting arms. Examples of this would be tightening of controls that would require background checks, wait times, and other measures that would work to prevent people that should not have weapons do not. Current controls are not working.





    9)Conservatives believe that we should live in a color blind society where every individual is judged on the content of his character and the merits of his actions.



    Liberals also believe in a color blind society but if you spend anytime reading conservative blogs you will see that conservatives do not in fact see the world in color blind terms. Discrimination must be fought through policies that encourage minority participation and acceptance. A color blind world will be a reality when truly all people participate as truly color blind. It does not exist today.





    8)Conservatives are capitalists and believe that entrepreneurs who amass great wealth through their own efforts are good for the country and shouldn't be punished for being successful.



    Liberals believe in free enterprise and capitalism but also believe that when one reaps the bounty of the nation there should be some provision for the nation to benefit as a whole (taxes). Free enterprise does not mean that there is a lack of regulation or controls that limit the exposure to discriminatory and corrupt practices by business. Wall St. would be a good example for the need of controls on an free enterprise business or institution. Someone should not be rewarded however for their excess at the cost of others.



    7)Conservatives believe that abortion ends the life of an innocent child and since we believe that infanticide is wrong, we oppose abortion.



    Liberals believe in the right of a woman to decide and control her body. Liberals also believe that abortion is a private decision that should be made carefully and by the individual.



    6) Conservatives believe in confronting and defeating enemies of the United States before they can harm American citizens.



    Liberals believe that using force against another nation should be a last resort. Liberals also believe in confronting and defeating enemies of the United States. This was demonstrated by President Obama's willingness to approve the operation to get Bin Laden on foreign soil.



    5)Conservatives, but not necessarily Republicans (which is unfortunate), believe it's vitally important to the future of the country to reduce the size of government, keep taxes low, balance the budget, and get this country out of debt.



    Liberals believe that government has it's place in providing for citizens well being and providing a sound infrastructure that supports this. Taxes are at times necessary as a means to an end.



    4)Conservatives believe that government, by its very nature, tends to be inefficient, incompetent, wasteful, and power hungry. That's why we believe that the government that governs least, governs best.



    Liberals think that there are several solutions to problems that does include participation by the government in many cases. Liberals do not see an all or nothing view that conservatives tend to believe about government. There is no doubt that it can be improved and made more efficient but in many cases there is not a private or should be a private entity to replace government services.





    3)Conservatives are patriotic, believe that America is a great nation, and are primarily interested in looking out for the good of the country. That's why we believe in "American exceptionalism" and "America first."



    Liberals also believe the same thing as conservatives on the fact that the United States is a great nation and believe in the exceptioinalisim that conservatives think they have a corner on. Liberals do consider the fact that we live in a world community and global economy that considers other nations as major contributors to our own strengths. It is insulting that Conservatives cannot not consider that Liberals can be as Country Loving and Patriotic as they are.





    2)Conservatives, most of them anyway, believe in God and think that the Constitution has been twisted by liberal judges to illegitimately try to purge Christianity from the public square. We also believe, most of us anyway, that this country has been successful in large part because it is a good, Christian nation and if our country ever turns away from the Lord, it will cease to prosper.



    Liberals embrace religion and the right for people to exercise their beliefs. Liberals do think that there should be separation of Church and State and that this division should exist to protect the very religious freedoms that every American has the right to. Conservatives consider most if not all other religions to be considered negative to the overall society where as liberals believe that diversity and the right of all religions to exist makes society stronger.



    1)Conservatives believe in pursuing policies because they're pragmatic and because they work.



    Liberals also believe in pursuing polices because they work and are a benefit to the community as a whole. Such examples would be policies like Green Building avocation that is producing sustaining policies with regard to energy consumption, conservation, and efficiencies. These policy not only feel good but also produce real returns and results. People's welfare and quality of life should always be considered when enacting public policy.
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  • foy49 2012/11/25 13:19:03
    I'm a cry baby
    foy49
    +4
    Let's see what the dictionary has to say ? liberal
  • David foy49 2012/11/25 17:35:19 (edited)
    David
    +2
    In other words, those claiming the label "liberal" or "progressive" today are anything but that; just reactionary statist liars who deny free speech (unless it agrees with their narrative), seek to hem in liberty with government regulation and shove religious speech out of the marketplace of ideas unless it's Islamic hate speech, of course.

    Thanks for clarifying things.
  • foy49 David 2012/11/25 18:23:00
  • David foy49 2012/11/26 12:13:50
    David
    +2
    English is hard for you, eh?
  • foy49 David 2012/11/27 06:59:46
    foy49
    +1
    Evidently; no harder than facts are for you, eh ?
  • David foy49 2012/11/27 16:10:05
    David
    +2
    Apparently both are much, much more difficult for you to get your tiny lil peabrain around. Enjoy the "reality-based fantasyland" you live in courtesy of what appears to be excessive self-medication.
  • foy49 David 2012/11/27 19:32:21
    foy49
    +1
    Isn't "pea brain" two words ? Pea Brain
  • Lee David 2012/12/02 11:15:33
    Lee
    +1
    Oh I see . . .

    So then you prefer a non-reality-based fantasyland.


    That's what I thought.
  • Lee David 2012/12/02 11:14:44 (edited)
    Lee
    +1
    The "?" means your spiel is absolute Bull Sh*t.

    Got it?

    EDIT:

    An now David the Cowardly Liar blocks me.

    Why are RWNJ's such wimps anyway?
  • David Lee 2012/12/02 15:49:21
    David
    No, the "?" means you have nothing genuine to say.

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