While the government spends billions on cameras, and face recognition technology directed at us to spy on us all, people are being arrested for pointing cameras at police.
I hope I'm not the only one that sees the problem here. Its all about using our money and resources to keep us in line when its the government that stages criminal activities like fast and furious that needs the cameras pointed at them.
$1 Billion FBI Facial Recognition Project to Track Everyone: Do You Support Law Enforcement Stimulus Program?
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Government promised us jobs by using taxpayer funds to spend on projects -- the administration called it "Stimulus Spending." The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) spent some of its money on "Next Generation Identification Program" developed by Lockheed Martin Transportation and Security Solutions and IBM.
NGI will connect with tens of thousands of closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras to apply facial recognition to the American public. NGI has the ambitious goal "to reduce terrorist and criminal activities by improving and expanding biometric identification and criminal history information services through research, evaluation, and implementation of advanced technology."
GIZMODO.COM reports:
NGI will connect with tens of thousands of closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras to apply facial recognition to the American public. NGI has the ambitious goal "to reduce terrorist and criminal activities by improving and expanding biometric identification and criminal history information services through research, evaluation, and implementation of advanced technology."
GIZMODO.COM reports:
How would you feel if the government could easily track your movements by automatically identifying your face on images captured by the ever-growing network of CCTV of cameras in America? The FBI will be able to do just that soon, with its one-billion-dollar Next Generation Identification program.
Read More: http://gizmodo.com/5941926/fbis-sinister-new-1-bil...
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Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/09/10 19:56:00
Everyone belittled & demeaned Dr. Paul.
Who's laughing now?
The Plutocrats in charge, that's who.
The rest of us are scared out of our minds.
Plus too... I'm familiar enough with a number of those technologies that they're talking about, both in this article and the sources for it, to have a pretty good idea that they're talking about a pilot program, not the full deal and it is going to have a LOT of problems until they get those ironed out.
And of course, a ballcap and sunglasses will ruin it's day anyways
This is technology that's well in it's infancy, but I can see a number of good uses for it too. Catching people walking into a hospital's nursary with the intent to steal a kid comes to mind, finding those children that were taken, catching criminals on the run too.
in time we'll see if it pans out, but if nothing else... some of those criminals that would rob a store, might think twice when they walk in the door and some automated voice greets them by name... that tells them right there he won't be anonymous when/if he robs it, so he targets someone else now, or call it quits.
And if he IS identified after the fact... if the system truly was big brother, then when he gets ID'ed there's a call to the police immediately, perhaps without his knowledge until they show up and slap the cuffs on him.
Oops.
A baseball cap isn't going to hide the fact that someone has a nervous tick, such as biting or picking his/her nails, taps his/her foot or a facial/body tick of some sort.
Biometrics will surely improve over time. But they're already pretty damned effective when used properly.
The most common one out there is the camera, and a ballcap, baggy sweats and mask do a halfway decent job of fouling that one up.
Where are you going with this?
...& you'd better check The Patriot Act before you continue to think that your protection from illegal search & seizure is secure.
The Patriot Act has been overturned in parts and revised in others since it's introduction, so it's current state I'll have to brush up on again. Do I believe search and seizure is secure? Not really, but I also don't do anything that warrent a police response either so the gov'ts right to pull that on me is a bit limited.
And in looking at the act (at least on wikipedia), I'm pretty certain the reason why there is so much confusion and fear mongering, is no one read the damned thing! About 90% of what folks fear about it, have to be approved by a judge first.
National Security Letters are the remaining 10% (my guess) and those are now illegal. They no longer hold water.
It is getting alot of flak, a fair bit of it well deserved, but there's also some fear mongering around it too that needs to end. But does it need a good top to bottom review?
Yes.
When one loses a right, it is damned difficult to get it back. Our rights are to be guaranteed by our constitution. So why are these bills being passed without amendment BEFORE voting, on removal of the unconstitutional portion? Why do the bills pass before removing the offending portion?
Notice that it's always (without exception) with bipartisan support.
What is that about, huh?
People want to talk about the NDAA. Fine, talk about it.
But be honest. It passed the Senate with 93 votes in favor... in its unconstitutional form. We have no right to trial if the President decides so. I don't think that the law can apply retro-actively to his killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, but there is some form of legal argument... though it might be perceived as a weak argument by some, others would disagree. But why kill him? If he was catchable, why not catch him & bring him in?
I need more details. How long had they had surveillance on him? Were his actions & connections useful? Could they have continued to be useful, had he remained alive &/or brought in for trial? I have far too many questio...
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When one loses a right, it is damned difficult to get it back. Our rights are to be guaranteed by our constitution. So why are these bills being passed without amendment BEFORE voting, on removal of the unconstitutional portion? Why do the bills pass before removing the offending portion?
Notice that it's always (without exception) with bipartisan support.
What is that about, huh?
People want to talk about the NDAA. Fine, talk about it.
But be honest. It passed the Senate with 93 votes in favor... in its unconstitutional form. We have no right to trial if the President decides so. I don't think that the law can apply retro-actively to his killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, but there is some form of legal argument... though it might be perceived as a weak argument by some, others would disagree. But why kill him? If he was catchable, why not catch him & bring him in?
I need more details. How long had they had surveillance on him? Were his actions & connections useful? Could they have continued to be useful, had he remained alive &/or brought in for trial? I have far too many questions before I dismiss his killing.
I'll dig deeper into any changes (& the votes) to the Patriot Act.
My point is that I don't trust anyone in our federal system today. The Plutocrats have taken over & government no longer works for The People, yet The People pay the bills. Something very wrong is happening inside our nation. It's The People's job to stop it... if we have the guts.
Plenty of information here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
As for surveillance and the kill instead of capture orders? No clue. That stuff would be classified.
Why did this bill pass without voting?
Blame Mr. Sensebrennen.
He asked for the rules to be suspended in regards to this bull (sorry, bill).
src: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin...
Had you read it, you would have noted this:
"He attended the university on a foreign student visa and a government scholarship from Yemen, apparently by claiming to be born in that country, according to a former U.S. security agent."
More than one college student has lied in order to get free tuition.
Too bad we can't bill him for it now... attaching the bill to the missile might be a bit of a task to do, but we know it would have gotten to him.
...even, potentially, if he/she could be captured as opposed to killed?
hrmm.
Boy, I'm going to have to do a hell of a lot more research to find a reason I would think good enough to give my blessing.
Probably the information you need is also classified, which makes it very hard to reach. Tried filling a freedom of information request with the CIA yet?
...or are you saying that you trust your government?
Do I know what it is? No.
Do I know the circumstances surrounding that decision? No.
Do I wish there was an alternative outcome? Yes.
As for the text of the law, that you should look at in more detail because that might clear up some of the fearmongering. What you are saying doesn't quite match with the law.
I doubt this project can even be accomplished with "only $1 billion, anyway, and ongoing expenses will be eternal.
And where does the money come from? Government is over $16 trillion in the red and will be past the "current debt limit" about election-time. We need to get rid of a whole HERD of Rulers, but new ones can't save our butts anyway, So ???
We may be trapped in a Dem-Rep monopoly that merely seeks to increase their powers. Woe is us!
We ARE.
I'm waiting for Dr. Paul to throw support to Johnson. That will clarify the situation. Otherwise we've got a boatload of people willing to write in Dr. Paul's name & another boatload who are willing to vote for Johnson ...& Johnson is actually on the ballot.
So, the two camps need to join forces somehow to make the situation clear. Otherwise, there's no hope at all because those willing to stand up & fight are also divided between being loyal to the good doctor & his counterpart.
He's been warning people about this stuff for decades & has been trying to get The People to wake up. Of course he frightens the hell out of the establishment because of it, so they encourage The Sheeple to scoff at him, which they are more than happy to do.
The Plutocrats win. The People lose.
I suppose it's inevitable.
I feel overall this is Big Brother to the max, and then some....
Just wait.
The truly shocking stuff is yet to come.
This is barely the tip of the iceberg.