Officer Shoots 2 Men After Angels Game: Should the officer be arrested?

An off-duty police officer shot two men in the parking lot after a Los Angeles Angels game at the stadium. (Colorado Rockies- Los Angeles Angels game) The police officer was walking to his car with... An off-duty police officer shot two men in the parking lot after a Los Angeles Angels game at the stadium. (Colorado Rockies- Los Angeles Angels game) The police officer was walking to his car with his wife and kids, when he was hit in the head with beer bottles. The officer then called for backup, then shot the two men with his duty weapon. One was shot in the chin and was in critical condition, while the other was shot in the upper arm. The police officer was taken to the hospital for head injuries. (more)
No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.
Yes. The officer should not have shot the men at Angels Stadium.
WTF? Two men were shot after an Angels game for assualting a police officer?
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  • +4 raves BigJDub June 26, 2009 03:16:59

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    It's a tough job. They should get the benefit of the doubt and let the bad-guys try and prove it was anything but self-defense.
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  • [-] Sandy July 13, 2009 20:29:14

    Yes. The officer should not have shot the men at Angels Stadium.

    I believe the officer over reacted... if the guys had guns... then shooting would have constituted self defense... but beer bottles?????

    The officer should have just arrested them..
  • +1 raves [-] benjaminb007 June 29, 2009 23:03:40

    Yes. The officer should not have shot the men at Angels Stadium.

    Are cops even allowed to use their weapons when they're off duty? I don't think shooting them was the best way to do that. He could have used a tazer. I think he was just mad that the game didn't go the way he wanted it and he lost a bet and now he has to buy his partner some doughnut.
  • +1 raves [-] big-t June 29, 2009 22:40:30

    Yes. The officer should not have shot the men at Angels Stadium.

    they throw 2 bottles at him and he instantlly shoots wtf is wrong with these cops today they shoot first instead of tring to solve it in other ways also why did an off duty cop bring his service pistol to a ball game if it was a civillian we would go to jail for having it there this cop steped over his boundry and should pay the price for it you dont shoot unarmed civilians unless its a last resort
  • +1 raves [-] mossfan6996 June 29, 2009 22:27:29

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    Just wondering if it's cool to carry your gun to a game at all? Still, they were wrong for assaulting him or anyone else...
  • +1 raves [-] rudad5 June 29, 2009 03:14:58

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    sure was
  • +1 raves [-] slashes June 28, 2009 22:48:48

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    Ha ha. That's what those dumbasses get.
  • +1 raves [-] Fydo June 28, 2009 18:58:15

    WTF? Two men were shot after an Angels game for assualting a police officer?

    I don't know the specifics of the situation,but that is why all people should be able to carry concealed weapons.If that happened to anyone else other than a off duty cop with a firearm,they quite probably would've been put in the hospital with more severe injuries and possibly killed. When violent assholes don't know who is carrying and who isn't,they'll think twice before doing something stupid. The fear of death works for most and for the ones that it doesn't,good riddance.
  • +1 raves [-] M June 28, 2009 16:29:57 (edited)

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    If it went the way they say it did and the facts are straight, he was just standing up for himself. You can't blame him for that. It seems people don't have any respect for the law now a days. I think he was concerned for his family.
  • +1 raves [-] BJet June 28, 2009 14:42:47

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    Good for you.
  • +1 raves [-] Wicked (Holla Back Boy) June 28, 2009 05:35:53

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    We we're not there, nor do we get the whole story, but I do believe the officer was trained enough to not be able to shoot in a critical area. He did show it by shooting the one guy in the upper arm, but that was still close to a vital shot.
    I know most police officers are very under trained in marksmanship unless they have a passion for it.
    He may of done more then necessary... but what would you of done in the same moment?
  • +1 raves [+] Miyako June 28, 2009 05:07:47

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    moderated...
  • [-] M Miyako June 28, 2009 16:29:10 (edited)
    It really doesn't matter what color or ethnic group they were.
  • +1 raves [-] lectrician June 28, 2009 00:42:45 (edited)

    WTF? Two men were shot after an Angels game for assualting a police officer?

    I think pulling the gun and arresting them might have been enough, but It may have escalated to threats on the man's family and bold actions that warranted the response. I don't know, I wasn't there.The man being assaulted by flying beer bottles while he walked to his car with his family was there though. And he was a cop. With a gun. I don't think alot of people would have an issue with saying it was justified.
  • +1 raves [-] Bill June 27, 2009 23:17:15

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    We need more of actions like this one. Defend yourself.
  • +1 raves [-] Poppins June 27, 2009 18:01:16

    Yes. The officer should not have shot the men at Angels Stadium.

    No he should have held them until backup came Did he let them know he was a cop? Once in high school on my way back from lunch three guys i knew started throwin rocks as I approched.....So if i had one i should have pulled out a gun and blown them away? Thanks what the ones who answered No means...after all it would have been self defense....
  • +1 raves [-] Manamal June 27, 2009 15:29:33

    Yes. The officer should not have shot the men at Angels Stadium.

    No He could of drawn his gun and made a arrest.
  • +1 raves [-] pdshanny June 26, 2009 21:29:29

    Yes. The officer should not have shot the men at Angels Stadium.

    I have watched for years police abuse their power. I don't like the crooks or the police. We the people are in the middle and need protection from both. An investigation is in order and charges should be made as in any other shooting.
  • +1 raves [-] luvguins June 26, 2009 19:27:08

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    Were they attacking the officer to rob him? If so it is self defense.
  • +1 raves [-] Santa June 26, 2009 18:21:46

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    Well, I think the cop was within his rights to defend himself, but In such drastic way? He stepped over the line in his responce. ( My opp.) It does not always have to be shoot first and ask questions later. I would have to say bad form on his part. Also the beer bottle tossing was a dumb thing to do. Things like that can get you shot now-a-days.
  • +3 / -1 raves [-] YOLI June 26, 2009 17:29:31

    WTF? Two men were shot after an Angels game for assualting a police officer?

    Yes 2 men where shot! I dont care what was the argument was...But a police officer should of had reacted differntly! especially with his family,his kids were there and saw the whole thing!!! They are making it seem the guys are thugs! they are NOT!!
    CARLOS who got shot in the chin just came for Fathers Day from SERVICE he is a MARINE...wtf? on vaction...recently in the field...Defending this country and he gets this? And there are TWO SIDES OF THE STORY!!!AND THE SIDE THE COPS SAYS...IS NOT ALL TRUE!!! HE WAS NOT TRYING TO DEFEND HIS FAMILY HE WAS DRUNK...AND HE WAS BEING A BADDASS WITH A GUN!! YOU KNW PPL HOW YOU GET WHEN U DRINK...AND JUST BECAUSE HE WAS COP IT GAVE HIM MORE RIGHTS RITE!!! FUCK THAT SHIT!

    Sometimes COPS JuDGE ppl for there looks...and I hope he rots in jail.!!!!!

    I hope the Corp gets in here and get both sides!!

    CARLOS IS IN CRITICAL CONDITION THIS MORNING AND MITE NOW MAKE IT THANX TO BADD ASS COP!!
  • +2 raves [-] Elizabeth June 26, 2009 17:28:06

    WTF? Two men were shot after an Angels game for assualting a police officer?

    The incident was unprovoked, in addition to which no one should be pelting another person with bottles. These losers got what they deserved. Once out of the hospital, they should be charged with assault.
  • +1 raves [-] Freshman! June 26, 2009 17:03:57

    Yes. The officer should not have shot the men at Angels Stadium.

    the police officer had no reason to shoot the two guys.they were not trting to kill him
  • +1 raves [-] zman June 26, 2009 16:36:20

    WTF? Two men were shot after an Angels game for assualting a police officer?

    This PIG should rot in jail..... Just another punk off duty pig that thinks he is above the law... I hope they send a message to all of the cops out there with this one.... BOTOM LINE...... This is Wanton Endangerment 1st degree because this was an OFF DUTY cop and he used lethal force against some drunken punks.... The guys that threw the bottles should have had their asses kicked and a couple of bottles smashed on their heads but to be shot....... Give me a break! If every time a person smashed a bottle over someone's head they were shot at then the murder rate would sky rocket... My uncle was sitting at a golf club bar in Cincinnati a year ago and a drunk smashed a liquor bottle across his face causing him 70 stitches,,, We would still be visiting him in the pen if he had shot that guy. As far as SELF DEFENSE...... Give me a break.... Not a chance! These guys threw beer bottles.. They did not shoot at anyone... I don't know that I have ever heard of anyone dying due to a beer bottle hitting them in the head... If anyone knows of this happening please send me the story so I can send the cop some bail money.
  • +2 raves [-] haya726 June 26, 2009 16:20:56

    Yes. The officer should not have shot the men at Angels Stadium.

    still the officer shouldn't have shot them! and when he's off duty he shouldn't have even have hit them or had a weapon with him, its his fault but also alittle of the 2 men also!!!!!!!
  • +2 raves [-] A June 26, 2009 15:52:04

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    If he felt his family was in mortal danger (which is completely understandable since he was outnumbered and being accosted with weapons), he was fully justified in using deadly force. He had the power to kill them both, but he chose not to. He did the right thing--no doubt.
  • [-] zman A June 26, 2009 16:43:22
    mortal danger.... I must say that if I had two guys throw a bottle of beer at me and caught me in a bad mood I would most likely pick a bottle up and go smash it on their head...It is amazing the type of response that you get with a 6'3 270lb man running full speed at you with one of the beer botles that you just threw at him.... I can assure you that they would not stay around for a cup of tea and if so I can assure you that after I smashed the first guys face up the second guy would run like the wind. Just another cop that joined the force because he was picked on as a kid..
  • [-] M A June 28, 2009 16:47:36
    Yes, I agree. A beer bottle could have hit one of his children or his wife.
  • +1 raves [-] Nonicknameunlessyouknowme June 26, 2009 15:29:51

    Yes. The officer should not have shot the men at Angels Stadium.

    Actually, I didn't like any of the choices. I would say it was only self-defense if the men who threw the bottles were still attempting to throw more bottles or were still heading in the off-duty officers direction. If the men were running away then what more threat were they. Of course, I'm not condoning what they did. The people throwing the bottles should be punished for their actions to the fullest extent of the law. I'm afraid now they may end up getting rich if they sue the city or it's police department. They shouldn't get a dime for being so stupid as to throw beer bottles in a parking lot full of people. What if one of those bottles had hit a child. If one caused injury to an adult then we know it would have been worse for a baby. This is an instance when rational Americans need to stand together, catch such idiots and hold on to them until on-duty police arrive.
    On an aside, I have to say that that officer sure showed those two nut cases. The problem is that what if the officer had shot another bystander. I don't have enough information in this scenario to know what to think.
  • +1 raves [-] toesdooletle June 26, 2009 14:05:37

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    what is the point of this question ?
  • +1 raves [-] gr8googamooga, In GOD we trust June 26, 2009 10:51:26

    WTF? Two men were shot after an Angels game for assualting a police officer?

    Cant make a judgment on this one I dont have enough details. More than likely though the cop was trying to protect his family, well one would hope anyway.
  • +2 raves [-] KuroiKenshi June 26, 2009 07:38:10

    Yes. The officer should not have shot the men at Angels Stadium.

    Police are always getting away with murder. It's fucking bullshit.
  • +4 raves [-] BigJDub June 26, 2009 03:16:59

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    It's a tough job. They should get the benefit of the doubt and let the bad-guys try and prove it was anything but self-defense.
  • +1 raves [-] Dagon June 26, 2009 01:34:50

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    He was attacked. He had to protect himself and his family. A policeman has to carry a service revolver even off duty. The perps are lucky to be alive. If I had been the officer, I would make permanant arrangements. That is why I am not a policeman. No mercy.
  • +1 raves [-] tuffy1949 June 25, 2009 23:39:53

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    With his wife and children there ? i would have had better aim .only one side of the story that way.
  • +1 raves [-] Poet003 June 25, 2009 23:23:25

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    A investigation needs to be done.
  • +1 raves [-] DRLJR June 25, 2009 22:29:41

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    From what is in the question so far it sounds like a case of self-defense and a justified shooting but a full investigation is needed.
  • +2 raves [-] Boo June 25, 2009 22:29:23

    WTF? Two men were shot after an Angels game for assualting a police officer?

    Maybe excessive force. He should at least be suspended pending an investigation. One would think a policeman with the whereabouts to call for back up & shoot 2 people after being hit in the head could have handled it without using his gun! Try the butt end of the gun next time. The two men i suspect were drunk & definitely picked the wrong guy to try to mug (or maybe they had a personal beef with this officer?). This probably will wind up on dumb crook news.
  • +2 raves [-] Disko Pickle June 25, 2009 20:53:19

    Yes. The officer should not have shot the men at Angels Stadium.

    He shot two? I didn't realize it was a double-header.
  • +1 raves [-] Wicked ... Disko P... June 28, 2009 05:36:19
    Bah Dum Chi
  • +1 raves [-] Eddie June 25, 2009 20:38:24

    No. Shooting the men at after the Angels game was just self-defense.

    I would have shot them too.

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