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To Non-Believers and Believers (In Christ)... Why does one trust in man's word instead of the word of God (God of the Bible)?

Crusader7 November 05, 2009 00:00:34

Man has proven throughout history to be self-serving, self-deceiving and self-worshiping.
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  • +4 raves seathanaich November 05, 2009 00:08:32
    seathanaich
    Hi Crusader.

    If you don't beleive that any gods are real, then this question doesn't really make sense. You don't believe in Islam or Hinduism, so you can relate to what I'm saying. What the Koran and the Upanishads are to you, so the Bible is to non-Christians.

    "Man" in the plural is lots of things. Self-serving, self-deceiving, and self-worshipping. But also dedicated to helping others, dedicated to learning and truth, and dedicated to humility. We all have the power to pick which attributes we will attempt to persue and personify. No?
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    God's Child November 09, 2009 00:33:58
    God's Child
    That is easy! Man wants to have power over all and think of themselves as gods. They don't want to feel below anything. That does not change the truth though. We have all come short of the glory of God.
  • Crusader7 God's C... November 09, 2009 00:45:32
    Crusader7
    AMEN!
  • Death November 05, 2009 20:52:16
    Death
    Whats the difference?
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    Crusader7 Death November 05, 2009 21:21:24
    Crusader7
    Mans words leads to death Death. God's to life.
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    socokid November 05, 2009 17:08:25
    socokid
    Because some of us do not believe the Bible to be the work of any God. At all.
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    Crusader7 socokid November 05, 2009 18:10:27
    Crusader7
    Most believe what you stated not some and that is normal.
  • socokid Crusader7 November 05, 2009 18:19:08
    socokid
    I would think it "normal" to not believe wholeheartedly in something so ill-evidenced.

    The three s's you keep referring to have benefited the furthering of our species in ways that seem to be overlooked. We would know little about the Universe on which we exist without them, for example. Lastly, they are hardly all that make up humanity.

    Besides, self deceiving seems to perfectly describe religiosity IMO.
  • Crusader7 socokid November 05, 2009 18:48:47
    Crusader7
    Yes, most religions are self deceived.

    It is normal because the nature of man.

    Man cringes at the very thought of a God in this universe.

    If man doesn't like to answer to man what makes you think man wants to answer to God.

    So man with all of man's intelligence, power and knowledge will do anything to refute the existence of a superior being and man will dupe man to think that man could be equals with God.
  • Death Crusader7 November 05, 2009 20:53:34
    Death
    So your evidence that there must be a God is that its such an unpleasant and unnatural thought?
  • Crusader7 Death November 05, 2009 21:22:10
    Crusader7
    No I was talking about mans condition/nature.
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    socokid Crusader7 November 05, 2009 23:06:49 (edited)
    socokid
    Or, we could merely come to a conclusion of the premise based on available evidence, which is something we also tend to do. I certainly do not fear the mere possibility of the existence of a God, and I suspect most atheists do not.
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    Chuck November 05, 2009 16:35:15
    Chuck
    Mankind's word is all that actually exists.
  • Crusader7 Chuck November 05, 2009 18:21:11
    Crusader7
    If that is true, then I and others are possessed by something wonderfully good and forgiving with deep understanding of mankind...

    Sorry no something has done this. It is by God written by God. It was written and it was done.

    My testimony is proof. Not to you because it is man's nature to suppress what is is true. It is man's nature to not believe what will condemn him and expose his ill deeds.
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    Chuck Crusader7 November 05, 2009 18:28:56
    Chuck
    illogical ranting. nice
  • Crusader7 Chuck November 05, 2009 18:38:44
    Crusader7
    Rant to the deprived mind. Whenever you decide to really seek truth you might find that man is for and always been for man.

    What was illogical Spock?
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    Chuck Crusader7 November 05, 2009 19:38:19
    Chuck
    "What was illogical Spock?" first off cool, I'm Spock
    "My testimony is proof" proof of what?

    "Whenever you decide to really seek truth you might find that man is for and always been for man."
    I figured that out a long time ago and by the way what else would man be for?
  • Crusader7 Chuck November 05, 2009 20:01:11
    Crusader7
    Spock is cool! :)

    Q1
    "My testimony is proof" proof of what?
    Proof that He exists.
    Q2
    Yes of course, man is not for God.
  • Chuck Crusader7 November 05, 2009 20:22:28
    Chuck
    So your individual testimony proves that God exists? Don't you think that's a bit conceited?
  • Crusader7 Chuck November 05, 2009 21:24:47
    Crusader7
    No Chuck, not arrogance, only confidence in His truth.

    My testimony satisfies a definition of verifiable evidence.
    It's in the dictionary.
  • Chuck Crusader7 November 05, 2009 21:35:49
    Chuck
    It does not satisfy the definition

    verifiable - capable of being tested (verified or falsified) by experiment or observation
  • Kari November 05, 2009 11:36:32
    Kari
    Why is this question only for christians?
  • Crusader7 Kari November 05, 2009 17:55:55
    Crusader7
    It is for all and it is pointed to non Christians.
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    WHAT?! ... Crusader7 November 06, 2009 06:13:26
    WHAT?! WHAT ARE YOU STARING AT?!
    The law is for unbelievers. Not for believers. We that are believers, are disciplined in the Word of righteousness, thus fulfilling the law.

    "For not the hearers of the Word are justified, but the doers of the Word are justified."
  • Crusader7 WHAT?! ... November 06, 2009 06:15:40
    Crusader7
    Amen.
  • WHAT?! ... Crusader7 November 06, 2009 06:46:30
    WHAT?! WHAT ARE YOU STARING AT?!
    The Word is still appointed to Christians.

    "For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil."
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    Demongirl1960 November 05, 2009 10:17:24
    Demongirl1960
    Because "god" is a self-serving, murderous, spoiled little GIT that needs his butt TANNED!
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    Crusader7 Demongi... November 05, 2009 17:56:43 (edited)
    Crusader7
    Have you taken your meds yet?
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    whitneyyy November 05, 2009 10:16:14
    whitneyyy
    man is more realstic that something that was written by men thousands of years ago,l choose to belive scince over a book
  • Crusader7 whitneyyy November 05, 2009 17:57:48
    Crusader7
    The 3 S's once again.
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    Isma'ila (God has heard)! November 05, 2009 09:21:48
    Isma'ila (God has heard)!
    Unbelievers are selfish!
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    whitneyyy Isma'il... November 05, 2009 10:15:29
    whitneyyy
    idk how in the world you could say that?!
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    Isma'il... whitneyyy November 05, 2009 10:31:19
    Isma'ila (God has heard)!
    Very easy! Step 1: I Form the thought in my head. Step 2: I activate my vocal chords. Step 3: I open my mouth! That is all there is to it! If you are wondering why I said the aforementioned statement I was merely speaking the truth that i have learned in the Bible!
  • whitneyyy Isma'il... November 06, 2009 07:34:40
    whitneyyy
    what you said, its almost like saying that I like relgious ppl are stupid...but I don't think that! Its really not right calling people who belive a certain thing selfish. what would your god say about that?!
  • Isma'il... whitneyyy November 06, 2009 07:40:18 (edited)
    Isma'ila (God has heard)!
    Look sweetie the Bible says unbelievers are selfish so don't blame me blame God I merely speak His truth!
  • whitneyyy Isma'il... November 07, 2009 05:12:48
    whitneyyy
    hahahahahahahahaha

    and I don't blame god, becuase I don't belive in him.

    and "god" is really really bigoted then
  • Isma'il... whitneyyy November 07, 2009 05:16:31
    Isma'ila (God has heard)!
    No God has the right to be worshiped hun!
  • seathan... Isma'il... November 05, 2009 18:21:44
    seathanaich
    You're just a bigot. You've already established that several times already.
  • WHAT?! WHAT ARE YOU STARING... November 05, 2009 08:02:39
    WHAT?! WHAT ARE YOU STARING AT?!
    First of all, there is no such thing as a "non-believer in Christ."

    "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
    15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
    16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
    17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
    18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
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    Crusader7 WHAT?! ... November 05, 2009 09:19:32
    Crusader7
    What? If one doesn't believe in Christ they are a non-believer.

    The scripture you quoted has nothing to do with the question you answered.
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    seathan... Crusader7 November 05, 2009 18:21:09
    seathanaich
    There are millions of non-believers in Christ.

    There are also, sadly, many believers in censorship, which is why I post on your comment, and cannot do so on the post from Smiling Hank above.
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