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Post-Christian? Not even close. - Agree?

- In the endless debate over whether the United States is a Christian nation, the "ayes" no longer seem to have it.

The "ayes" might have the 1892 Supreme Court ruling describing the United States as a "Christian nation," but the "nays" have the Treaty of Tripoli of 1797, which affirmed that "the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

Now comes President Obama, who in January in his inaugural address spoke of this country as "a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus — and non-believers." On April 6 in Turkey, Obama added that the United States "does not consider itself a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation" but "a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values."

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  • jackolantyrn356 September 13, 2009 01:25:39
    jackolantyrn356
    I do not even know what the ( ) these clowns are talking about.
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    G July 22, 2009 09:27:51
    G
    Just because everyone else can come out about their beliefs doesn't mean Christians are going to lose theirs.
  • RedRockNv May 19, 2009 04:03:09
    RedRockNv
    I think the world will soon be post christian. I should be Rosh Hashanah the next few years.
  • mu_linlin7 May 07, 2009 11:58:06 (edited)
    mu_linlin7
    I agree. Thomas Jefferson himself wrote in a letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper in 1814: "Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law."

    To define a state religion is to go in exactly the direction our Founding Fathers were trying to avoid, and clearly violates the First Amendment.
  • shalimar May 06, 2009 20:28:03
    shalimar
    I think the USA is still very much mainly a christian nation, although its becoming more diverse with time.
  • RedRockNv shalimar May 19, 2009 04:05:27
    RedRockNv
    It is becoming more muslim not diverse.
  • shalimar RedRockNv October 26, 2009 23:21:38
    shalimar
    I dont see it becoming muslim. Although I would certainly not be one to encourage muslims to come here or any of western europe. They want to wear their head gear and practice their jihads, they should stay in their islamic countries. We dont want them!
  • jackolantyrn356 May 05, 2009 03:34:14
    jackolantyrn356
    Although God would give us more time to evangelize the World before the end, that is what each Christian would want, but We don't know what the date is going to be, but based on This President it feels justifiable ti=o statrt getting ready. Otherwisre it is why America is not mentioned in the Bible. America will be destroyed as it is happening right now.
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    shalimar jackola... May 06, 2009 20:29:00
    shalimar
    another wacko comment!
  • RedRockNv shalimar May 19, 2009 04:10:39
    RedRockNv
    What he is saying is the church age is coming to any end and destruction of our influence is at hand. So he is probably right. Christian are about to depart anyway so no need to get worked up.
  • jackola... shalimar September 13, 2009 01:30:03
    jackolantyrn356
    Ok, let me put it another way. I f I were in Mr. Obama's presence. I would be sure to be no place close to him. Connected to a joke about the Lord and lightening bolts. ( the true tale deals with Zeus and the lightening bolts, but somehow got mixed into a Catholic joke. Oh Well.. I h=fear you have missed the point. Not WACKO, In case you are not Christian. "Good Luck in the Afterlife."
  • Memberof the GOP May 05, 2009 02:33:14
    Memberof the GOP
    Just because people today have a different viewpoint doesn't change the fact of what this country once was.
  • Scott.Bohe May 04, 2009 23:20:34
    Scott.Bohe
    Never heard of the Treaty of Tripoli, but if it was indeed signed in Africa in 1797 I'm pretty sure no U.S. reps were there. Just read the founding fathers documents. There is much mention of God, but I'm not sure Christ is anywhere in it. Of course, we know that these people were christian if they held any religious beliefs at all. I believe the proper description of the U.S. is judeo-christian. Yes, there have been many immigrants bringing other beliefs, and many Americans have adapted other beliefs or lost belief entirely. But we are still christian in my book.
  • Chosen One May 04, 2009 19:04:11
    Chosen One
    moderated...
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    Gale May 02, 2009 05:17:31
    Gale
    They say that if you give a monkey a typewriter and enough time he will write a book. Obama has just proved this axiom correct. Given enough time he got one right...
  • HappyTime Gale May 02, 2009 21:00:52
    HappyTime
    Gale,

    Huh? I don't understand what you typed.

    Happy
  • RedRockNv Gale May 19, 2009 04:12:23
    RedRockNv
    Have you read his writing? I read his first book. Somebody wrote it for him I am sure.
  • shalimar RedRockNv October 26, 2009 23:23:17
    shalimar
    No he is smart enough and educated enough to have written it himself. Not through a bag lady as sarah Palin. Now that is trailer trash!
  • Denise May 02, 2009 03:04:15
    Denise
    This nation has always been predominantly Christian, but we've also had other religions in this country, too. This is not a post-Christian society, but I feel that Christians are feeling the sting of psychological persecution in this nation more and more.
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    LinkX Denise May 02, 2009 04:41:54
    LinkX
    Persecution? What kind of persecution? That people stand up to Christians now, instead of letting them walk over others? For years, decades, and centuries, if you wern't a Christian, you would be branded as a traitor and as an evil person if it became public. Now that we can be freely open, we are persecuting you?

    This has never been, in any sense, a Christian nation. Simply predominantly Christian. And now there are less and less. And you do not feel the sting of persecution. You feel the sting of no longer having strength in numbers.
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