People Find Religious Carrot More Persuasive Then Stick

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People Find Religious Carrot More Persuasive Then Stick

Posted November 07, 2009 23:40:08
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canada.com - If you want to peddle your religious message, it appears that focussing on the positive is more effective than focussing on the threats. But I have to wonder if people are being honest with themselves. What do you think? And is there any real difference between the Carrot and the Stick where religious afterlife promises/threats are concerned?... Read full article »

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+2 raves seathanaich November 07, 2009 23:42:33 (edited)

LOOK AT THE LAST PARA IN THIS ARTICLE:

"In a nationwide survey of 1,000 adults, polling firm Ipsos-Reid this year found roughly half of Canadians believe in afterlife: 21 per cent in heaven and hell; 20 per cent in an afterlife that isn't specifically heaven or hell; and seven per cent only in heaven."

ONLY HALF OF CANADIANS BELIEVE IN AN AFTERLIFE

Talk about an encouraging statistic!

You can guess my opinion by my comments in the top. I don't think that you can separate the Stick from the Carrot.

However, some religious believers are starting to do so . . . theists are increasingly expressing disbelief in "hell", while retaining belief in "heaven". They are also placing an increasing emphasis on "deeds" as the passport to eternity (which, of course, contradicts religious dogmas).

So what do you make of all this?
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socokid November 11, 2009 03:42:04

The carrot may get them, but the stick keeps them in.
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seathan... to socokid November 12, 2009 03:00:54

Good point.
Sugarbear November 10, 2009 02:23:54

There are, by nature, 2 sides to every issue, however, it should be noted that the church has been using "the hell fire stick" to rule the superstitious masses for thousands of years! What then, do we believe in? It should be the responsibility of every person to read & search out this question for them selves. Trusting the word of another may just lead you down a path you do not want to take!
seathan... to Sugarbear November 10, 2009 17:54:37

"There are, by nature, 2 sides to every issue,"

Not necessarily. And there is seldom equal weight of evidence for competing opinions. Cheers.
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Illjwamh November 09, 2009 07:53:17

For a perfect look at how learning of a religion affects people mentally and emotionally, go see "The Invention of Lying". Brilliant movie.
seathan... to Illjwamh November 09, 2009 20:27:27

Yes, that looks funny. I'd like to see it.
Illjwamh to seathan... November 10, 2009 01:59:16

Not just funny. Extremely insightful.
MindReader November 09, 2009 05:44:36

This is news? Life goes on forever and death is far from the end; just the beginning if you ask me. If you want to listen to some of it, go to http://www.leslieflint.com and park yourself for a few days. Audio tapes of those who have died and speak back across the veil.

I will give you a hint about a different communication, the first person OJ is going to meet when he crosses over is NICOLE and boy is she Pissed. I wouldn't want to be him on crossing over.
seathan... to MindReader November 09, 2009 05:54:43

I'll give it a pass, thanks. I'm missing the "gullible" gene.
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Velanarris to MindReader November 09, 2009 12:16:33

You do realize that the "light at the end of the tunnel" has been debunked as an occurance that is due to the systemic failure of parts of the brain?

Death isn't a "here then there" process. It takes up to a month for your body to fully die.
MindReader to Velanarris November 10, 2009 00:09:34

So the people and "spirits" I talk to on a regular basis are also debunked? I will tell them that on their next visit.
seathan... to MindReader November 10, 2009 00:19:22

Or you could just tell "them" that right now, since "they" are just your imagination. Thinking that there are multiple personalities within your own brain is NOT a healthy thing; you may want to talk to a mental health professional about this.
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Velanarris to MindReader November 10, 2009 12:09:46

In order for them to be debunked you would have to supply some cursoryt evidence of your imaginary friends, otherwise they're no more real than the monsters under a 5 year old's bed.
seathan... to Velanarris November 10, 2009 00:20:46

Hi Vel. My understanding of the "lights" is that the body is shutting down non-essential sytems to ensure brain function lasts as long as possible (but this isn't an area I have studied much). Does that sound familiar?
Velanarris to seathan... November 10, 2009 12:12:26

From what I understand it's oxygen deprivation.

If you've ever been oxygen deprived you'd probably report flashes or a pinpoint of light. Take it to the extreme and it'd be growing light.
seathan... to Velanarris November 10, 2009 17:55:47

I've also read that what extremely religious people experience as brain activity is similar in pattern to what epileptics experience.
Velanarris to seathan... November 10, 2009 19:34:22

I've read that as well.

I'd agree with it.
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FALLoutBOYmetal GODZ November 09, 2009 02:17:09

Well here is my considered opinion upon this interesting topic. I CRAP on ALL RELIGIONS and WIPE MY ASS with the BIBLE! I URINATE ON ICONS and ALTARS! Thank you for starting this dialogue on such a fascinating issue.
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krister bülü *In Doctor Don... November 09, 2009 01:13:48

Screw the promises AND the threats. Where's the slightest bit of evidence?
seathan... to krister... November 09, 2009 04:38:53

Agreed, but the sociology of religion is also interesting.

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