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My Heretical Unitarian Statement of Faith
- April 05, 2008 02:19:48
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I've finally figured out how to explain this. Specifically, I believe that Sinai precludes the Trinity but that JC is the Messiah. I also beleive with all my soul that the Ruler of the Universe is very clear in many religions about NOT wanting people to elevate prophets and the Messiah to the same status as Her/Him/It!
(If you are G-d then You are the inventor of everything, including sex and gender - which G-d is - then you don't have a gender unless You want to. So don't go giving me shit over calling God female or male. I just think it's rude to address the Ruler of everything as It! LOL!)
Anyway, in Genesis God is referred to as YHVH Elohim - and Elohim is and plural but it does not specify 3 parts nor any other number. The rabbis say it means God is both male and female and contains ALL powers in the universe.
They are not alone! Here is what Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers has to say on the subject.
"..we find the development of the persons and the attributes of God. Of these, some are male and some are female. Now, for some reason or other, best known to themselves, the translators of the Bible have carefully crowded out of existence and smothered up every reference to the fact that the Deity is both masculine and feminine. They have translated a feminine plural by a masculine singular in the case of the word Elohim. They have, however, left an inadvertent admission of their knowledge that it was plural in Genesis iv., 26: 'And Elohim said: Let US make man.'
"Again (v., 27), how could Adam be made in the image of the Elohim, male and female, unless Elohim were male and female also? The word Elohim is a plural formed from the feminine singular ALH, Eloh, by adding IM to the word. But inasmuch as IM is usually the termination of the masculine plural, and is here added to a feminine noun, it gives to the word Elohim the sense of a female potency united to a masculine idea, and thereby capable of producing an offspring. Now we hear much of the Father and the Son, but we hear nothing of the Mother in the ordinary religions of the day. But in the Kabbalah we find that the Ancient of Days conforms himself simultaneously into the Father and the Mother, and thus begets the Son. Now this Mother is Elohim."
Are you still with me?
OK, so the next thing concerns G-d as all bunnies and light. Not so. G-d is onmnipresent and found everywhere. Even in the dark. Yes! G-d/dess is in the thick darkness (not just the light)!
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"When the people saw the thunder and the lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. They stayed at a distance and said to Moses, "Moses said to the people, " 'Do not be afraid, God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning.' "The people remained at a distance, while Moses approached the thick darkness where God was." Exodus 20:18-21 (NIV)
1 Kg.8:12, 2 Chronicles 6:1
The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.
Psalm 18:11
He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
Psalm 97:2
Clouds and darkness are round about him.
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Given S/He/It (aka the Holy One) could nuke me (and you! ;) back to dust in an instant, who am I (or anyone else?) to attempt to shoehorn Her/Him/It into a box! Fortunately S/He has an excellent sense of humour, loves us all, though S/He might not be too too impressed with the way many of us behave and think! :-/ Oh yeah - and JC is the Messiah. And I don't have to, nor will I ever jump around like a buffoon to prove I am a 'more godly' Christian, that the others. We're not called to be egos on a stick, damn it all. It's about love your neighbour , not beat on him and inform him he's going to hell. I will not put one line in John above the rest of the Tanach and OT. JC is the 'wayshower'. Stop making the bible a paper pope alright already.
************DEAD FAITH & THEURGY****************
We are called as Christians to works, not just faith, faith without works is dead dead dead! Sitting on your butt brandishing the bible like a weapon at the 'unsaved' while raking them verbally over the coals is not what God wants of you, usually.
Christians are not called to drive people way from the Church, damn it all.
"What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?" James 2:14
I was an experimental kid, a real screaming romantic. When I was 11 years old I did a spell to raise a wind. I didn't like that the spell called for raising it in the devil's name i thought that sounded like a spectacularly bad idea. So I used Jesus' name because I'd read what he said in the New testament, read it in self defense - I trusted him and whatever we ask in his name God will do.
So I did the spell to raise a wind in the name of Jesus Christ. And a mighty wind came up. Oh ho! i can her you thinkin' : she's a witch!
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone and go grab a Torah and see what specifics are involved in all those Levitican quotes you're loading into your mental bazooka to fire at me in fear.
MARK 9:38-40 - "And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part."
LUKE 9:49-50 - "And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbade him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us."
http://www.livescience.com/st...
http://www.godandscience.org/...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04...
(If you are G-d then You are the inventor of everything, including sex and gender - which G-d is - then you don't have a gender unless You want to. So don't go giving me shit over calling God female or male. I just think it's rude to address the Ruler of everything as It! LOL!)
Anyway, in Genesis God is referred to as YHVH Elohim - and Elohim is and plural but it does not specify 3 parts nor any other number. The rabbis say it means God is both male and female and contains ALL powers in the universe.
They are not alone! Here is what Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers has to say on the subject.
"..we find the development of the persons and the attributes of God. Of these, some are male and some are female. Now, for some reason or other, best known to themselves, the translators of the Bible have carefully crowded out of existence and smothered up every reference to the fact that the Deity is both masculine and feminine. They have translated a feminine plural by a masculine singular in the case of the word Elohim. They have, however, left an inadvertent admission of their knowledge that it was plural in Genesis iv., 26: 'And Elohim said: Let US make man.'
"Again (v., 27), how could Adam be made in the image of the Elohim, male and female, unless Elohim were male and female also? The word Elohim is a plural formed from the feminine singular ALH, Eloh, by adding IM to the word. But inasmuch as IM is usually the termination of the masculine plural, and is here added to a feminine noun, it gives to the word Elohim the sense of a female potency united to a masculine idea, and thereby capable of producing an offspring. Now we hear much of the Father and the Son, but we hear nothing of the Mother in the ordinary religions of the day. But in the Kabbalah we find that the Ancient of Days conforms himself simultaneously into the Father and the Mother, and thus begets the Son. Now this Mother is Elohim."
Are you still with me?
OK, so the next thing concerns G-d as all bunnies and light. Not so. G-d is onmnipresent and found everywhere. Even in the dark. Yes! G-d/dess is in the thick darkness (not just the light)!
**********************************************
"When the people saw the thunder and the lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. They stayed at a distance and said to Moses, "Moses said to the people, " 'Do not be afraid, God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning.' "The people remained at a distance, while Moses approached the thick darkness where God was." Exodus 20:18-21 (NIV)
1 Kg.8:12, 2 Chronicles 6:1
The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.
Psalm 18:11
He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
Psalm 97:2
Clouds and darkness are round about him.
**************************
Given S/He/It (aka the Holy One) could nuke me (and you! ;) back to dust in an instant, who am I (or anyone else?) to attempt to shoehorn Her/Him/It into a box! Fortunately S/He has an excellent sense of humour, loves us all, though S/He might not be too too impressed with the way many of us behave and think! :-/ Oh yeah - and JC is the Messiah. And I don't have to, nor will I ever jump around like a buffoon to prove I am a 'more godly' Christian, that the others. We're not called to be egos on a stick, damn it all. It's about love your neighbour , not beat on him and inform him he's going to hell. I will not put one line in John above the rest of the Tanach and OT. JC is the 'wayshower'. Stop making the bible a paper pope alright already.
************DEAD FAITH & THEURGY****************
We are called as Christians to works, not just faith, faith without works is dead dead dead! Sitting on your butt brandishing the bible like a weapon at the 'unsaved' while raking them verbally over the coals is not what God wants of you, usually.
Christians are not called to drive people way from the Church, damn it all.
"What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?" James 2:14
I was an experimental kid, a real screaming romantic. When I was 11 years old I did a spell to raise a wind. I didn't like that the spell called for raising it in the devil's name i thought that sounded like a spectacularly bad idea. So I used Jesus' name because I'd read what he said in the New testament, read it in self defense - I trusted him and whatever we ask in his name God will do.
So I did the spell to raise a wind in the name of Jesus Christ. And a mighty wind came up. Oh ho! i can her you thinkin' : she's a witch!
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone and go grab a Torah and see what specifics are involved in all those Levitican quotes you're loading into your mental bazooka to fire at me in fear.
MARK 9:38-40 - "And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part."
LUKE 9:49-50 - "And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbade him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us."
http://www.livescience.com/st...
http://www.godandscience.org/...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04...
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anyhow I wrote a lot...and I go insane too...maybe it's catching! :)
*HUG*
I know I've had a weird life path but I just felt I had to get it all down somewhere so the next time some well-meaning* soul tries to 'save' me or inform me how much more correct their religious or philosophical viewpoint is. Now I have somewhere to point them that sums up what I believe and how I got to that place. :) And I don't have to rant or raise my blood pressure - I can just send them a link. :)
Woo-hoo!
*(I will give them the benefit of the doubt but some I think are trying to prove themselves superior! Which I find offensive - we are all special if we are all made in the Creator's image,)