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If we believe Saints are in heaven,why do some Christians think it's wrong to pray to them?

Sister Jean November 04, 2009 20:42:41

Prayer is talking to those in heaven......Adoration is solely for theTrinity

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  • tooner259 November 06, 2009 16:16:00
    tooner259

    true

    Because they were elevated to that rank by people.
  • Jersey-Gurl November 05, 2009 23:49:12
    Jersey-Gurl

    true

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  • reconciliation November 05, 2009 17:41:23
    reconciliation

    false

    first of all the bible does not teach that we are going to heaven, it tell us that there will be a new heaven and a new new EARTH. No one is in heaven but Jesus who is sitted at the right hand of the Father, in the resurrection of the dead, people will either be raised to eternal life or eternal damnation which is the second death for those who don't believe. In the next world there will be no death, no crying, no pain for the former things will have passed away.
  • Joel November 05, 2009 15:46:37
    Joel

    false

    ive heard that some ppl think its wrong because the bible doesnt say anything about saints.. but idk, i havent read the bible myself..
  • arthur November 05, 2009 12:22:30
    arthur

    false

    I wanted a board that I kind of needed for this floor. I got it. I wanted a pair of sandles like the ones that I had for five years, I got them. I wanted a job to help out with the rent and so forth, I got it. I've gotten everything that I need and some things that I don't need, and I didn't pray to any one but GOD THE FATHER only. It's really symple, pray to GOD THE FATHER only in Jesus' name and go from there. Because praying to anyone or anything is putting that person or group first. Think about it before you answer. Because alot of questions that I've asked, I got a different answer than I thought I would, and I have to live with that answer, no matter how much I have tried to justify MY ANSWER, MY WORDS, MY ACTIONS, ect. Me, myself and I are some times wrong, and WE have to eccept the answers and actions of things. Think about father Abraham how he was told that his son would be a great nation, and then told that he had to kill him. How would you feel if you were in that situation? And one more thing, what I believe is not importand, it's what can be proven. For facts out weigh belief. And God can be proven, but belief, that can't be.
  • awomanoccupyingtheplanet November 05, 2009 05:06:10
    awomanoccupyingtheplanet

    false

    God is not a trinity anyway. Study scripture. also , in Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments ( learn the original commands )

    No prophets or churches or religions or men are God. Probably a great idea to pray only to God himself.
  • Pete November 05, 2009 02:13:03
    Pete

    true

    Christian do not pray for dead Saint, idol or our love one who have already parted. Why? Because they are gone and have finish the run. They are now resting from their labor. In Hebrews 12: 1 it tell use this " There we also , since we are surrounded by so great a Cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us"
    This above scripture I have just mention does not tell us to ask the cloud of witness to pray for us. Most biblical scholars agree that the term "cloud of witnesses" is an analogy that the Hebrew writer took from the Olympic Games. Some translate this term as "those in the grandstand." The picture the writer gives is of those who have finished running their race are now in the grandstand, and we know that those in the grandstand cannot run the race for us. Those that are alive are the ones running the race. Those who have died in the Lord have "ceased from their labor." They have already "finished the race." (see Rev 14:13 and 2 Tim 4:7)

    To ask the great Christians in the past to pray for us is to get them back into the race again. But they have already run their race. They are resting from their labor. Why get them to work again?

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    Christian do not pray for dead Saint, idol or our love one who have already parted. Why? Because they are gone and have finish the run. They are now resting from their labor. In Hebrews 12: 1 it tell use this " There we also , since we are surrounded by so great a Cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us"
    This above scripture I have just mention does not tell us to ask the cloud of witness to pray for us. Most biblical scholars agree that the term "cloud of witnesses" is an analogy that the Hebrew writer took from the Olympic Games. Some translate this term as "those in the grandstand." The picture the writer gives is of those who have finished running their race are now in the grandstand, and we know that those in the grandstand cannot run the race for us. Those that are alive are the ones running the race. Those who have died in the Lord have "ceased from their labor." They have already "finished the race." (see Rev 14:13 and 2 Tim 4:7)

    To ask the great Christians in the past to pray for us is to get them back into the race again. But they have already run their race. They are resting from their labor. Why get them to work again?

    Besides, Jesus told us clearly who can pray with us. He said in Matthew 18:19, "Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven." Notice the important clause "on earth." The people who pray together must be "on earth." This definitely rules out those who have left this earth.

    When Jesus taught the disciples to pray, He never encourages the disciples to ask Abraham or Moses or Noah to pray for them. Asking the deceased to pray for us is unheard of in the Bible, and contradicts the teaching of the Bible.
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  • Iszie November 05, 2009 01:22:00
    Iszie

    false

    shalom! the holy scriptures say's that no man has ascended to heaven but he that descended from heaven!
    john 3:13 . the people that die in yeshua are in paradise! Abraham's Bosom!
  • Captain Sticky November 05, 2009 00:58:55
    Captain Sticky

    true

    Let me explain a possible parallel in what I as a Pagan do. I realize that there is no god but God and I ask God for an occasional favor. I also ask my ancestors to put in a good word for me.
  • Incensed November 05, 2009 00:34:41
    Incensed

    false

    I'm not exactly sure how to answer this poll. I personally believe that, if Jesus died on the cross for my sins, so that I can petition God the Father, why would I want to go through someone else, when I can go straight to the source.
  • Lil♥Angel♥Kisses November 04, 2009 23:59:07
    Lil♥Angel♥Kisses

    false

    I think it probably boiils down to differences in beliefs... Some churches believe that you only pray to God the Father or the trinity... I think it is all in what you believe.
  • SirClownfear November 04, 2009 23:23:33
    SirClownfear

    false

    Prayer is communion with God. A heavenly being (angels, saints, Mother Mary) are not diety so don't deserve our prayers and they don't have the purpose to be conduits of prayer to the Father. We get to talk to Him directly.
  • Compassionate Christian November 04, 2009 23:07:20
    Compassionate Christian

    true

    The Communion of Saints Rocks! Thanks for asking good sister.
  • Gun665 November 04, 2009 22:21:17
    Gun665

    true

    The way I look at it, you're just asking for help. The only thing I can think is maybe those folks think you're putting the Saints before God.
  • Iamfree November 04, 2009 21:59:54
    Iamfree

    false

    I don't believe the Bible gives any authority to pray to anyone except God. My uncle is in heaven too, but I don't pray to him.
  • Nicky November 04, 2009 21:01:25
    Nicky

    true

    Some have the belief that if you need something, you ask God directly. They believe that if you ask someone else, it's treating that person like God, which would go against the first commandment. Personally, I don't see things quite that way. Why bother with God with the small things if he has empowered the saints to help? It's like going to a brother or sister rather than bothering your parents with things. imho. Also, I still talk to my parents and other deceased family members when I'm trying to work something out. I don't say they're saints, but that kind of one-sided conversation helps me sort things out. And prayer is talking to someone, isn't it?
  • ๑۩۩..ßεℓℓεchεvεℓℓε®..۩۩๑Wra... November 04, 2009 20:46:07
    ๑۩۩..ßεℓℓεchεvεℓℓε®..۩۩๑Wrathful Mayor of Crazytown

    true

    I'm not Catholic, but I've prayed to my grandpappy and grandma during difficult times concerning my parents. I caught grief for that. But it worked.
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