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I was recruited by Mormons today.

Just walking through campus, between the music building and my dorm, and a couple of guys in suits and ties pick me out of the crowd, wishing to talk to me about the Book of Mormon, and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. (that's what it's called right? that's a lot to remember.

I'm not too familiar with the specifics of the Mormon faith (I should be more, but I'm not) so I remained perceptive to what they had to say, and accepted a little pamphlet they gave me. They seemed like alright guys to me. I'll look into it to broaden my horizons, 'cause I like doing that.

I told my roommate about it, and all he had to say was "[insert guttural noise here], Mormons are crazy."

Any thoughts on the subject? Sadly, I've never stumbled across a Mormon on this site. Do they exist here?
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  • +8 raves Kev316 November 07, 2009 02:18:35
    Kev316
    Well, you get the magic underpants and extra wives, so that's kind of a wash. I don't know why anyone would want extra wives but the magic underpants? Whoa - maybe they can make you fly and repel bullets to the crotch?

    Seriously, though, it's another religion that makes zero sense when you dig into it a little. Another one of those, "An angel gave me golden scrolls and had me destroy them after I read them. Trust me, though, I'm tellin' the truth here."

    http://www.videosift.com/vide...

    Watch this vid from South Park. It is really quite accurate, believe it or not.
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    Johnny-O 4 days ago (edited)
    Johnny-O
    Well, you know, Mitt Romney is a Mormon. They are very strident among themselves, like Donny & Marie, the two more famous Osmonds.

    Everything is faith & family, and if you want to be someone of the single lifestyle, you become effectively ostracized. Everybody is expected to marry as per the Lord's will and be fruitful and multiply. I mean, it is EVERYTHING to them! Marriage and kids!

    Among regular people, they keep their heads down, I guess you could say, because of a history in the 19th century of out-and-out persecution. They hold with not only the Bible but the Book of Mormon, written by some guy named 'Moroni'; all this was formulated by men of two different minds (and as it turned out, two different schools of thought) named Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, once again, 'way back in the 19th century. They pretty much founded the state of Utah - Salt Lake City is their effective capital. They used to be into polygamy, huge. Originally something about increasing their numbers, I think - survival instinct, doncha know. This accounted for much of the persecution, along with charges of heresy.

    I'm not sure what their relevant theology is, except it seems to have something to do with the Native American Indians, who they seem to associate with the 'lost tribes of Israel'. ...











    Well, you know, Mitt Romney is a Mormon. They are very strident among themselves, like Donny & Marie, the two more famous Osmonds.

    Everything is faith & family, and if you want to be someone of the single lifestyle, you become effectively ostracized. Everybody is expected to marry as per the Lord's will and be fruitful and multiply. I mean, it is EVERYTHING to them! Marriage and kids!

    Among regular people, they keep their heads down, I guess you could say, because of a history in the 19th century of out-and-out persecution. They hold with not only the Bible but the Book of Mormon, written by some guy named 'Moroni'; all this was formulated by men of two different minds (and as it turned out, two different schools of thought) named Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, once again, 'way back in the 19th century. They pretty much founded the state of Utah - Salt Lake City is their effective capital. They used to be into polygamy, huge. Originally something about increasing their numbers, I think - survival instinct, doncha know. This accounted for much of the persecution, along with charges of heresy.

    I'm not sure what their relevant theology is, except it seems to have something to do with the Native American Indians, who they seem to associate with the 'lost tribes of Israel'. Personally, I find that unlikely, unless the ancient lost Israelites migrated to Outer Mongolia before they walked along the Bering Land Bridge (today's Alieutian Islands) and down into the North American Continent during the last great Ice Age.

    Anyway, they seem like nice enough people, I guess, but yeah, they can be weird, a little. I'll never forget the two who dropped by my first place, a duplex apartment I had back in the 1970s. It was a cold, bleak day, snow on the ground, lots of slush everywhere. These two were dressed in business suits, right down to their galoshes! I think I even commented, off-handedly, that they looked chilled to the bone but at least their feet were dry! The leader of the two started to get huffy, and I was just in one of my moods. I was having none of his 'Litnessing'! A couple of clowns...

    "Do you have any idea, pal," I asked the leader, "how ridiculous you look on a cold day like this?" What, they wouldn't let them wear a coat? Just a suit coat? I guess they might have been wearing long-handles, hahahaha! They did have gloves. They needed parkas.

    The guy got hot with me - they both gave me looks somewhere between contempt and pity, as if beholding a wretched soul who was surely hell-bound. I suppose I should've just accepted his tract and thrown it away later.

    "Stay warm now, guys", I guffawed as they worked their way back to my street trough the foot-deep snow covering my gravel driveway, "and try to take it easy, hahaha!"

    I suppose it wouldn't have killed me to bid them inside to warm up and offer them some coffee or something, I realize now that on such a cold day I was likely a tad unkind.

    I suppose I probably am going to hell...oh, well.
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    gfreeman~American Atheist~ November 09, 2009 18:52:43
    gfreeman~American Atheist~
    Glenn Beck is a Mormon. If that helps any.
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    sugarbuzz November 09, 2009 04:51:03
    sugarbuzz
    To be safe Google it. They believe that their prophet , Joseph Smith was given golden tablets and the Jesus spent time in the U.S. with the Native Americans in his ministry here on earth. They believe in certain dietary restrictions and there is basically even less evidence there is anything verifiable about their beliefs than what is evident in Christianity, and they have their own Book of Mormon. It is referred to in many places as a Cult. The young men you met are fulfilling a part of their mission to evangelize the faith. Each is required to do this for 2 years at some point in order to be written into their books of "life". You might contact your theology dept. and they can give you a brief, unbiased synopsis. good luck.
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    Seth (c... sugarbuzz November 09, 2009 05:36:49
    Seth (crazy Iowan) *Burgundy*
    Thanks for your input. They definitely have some whacky ideas. I won't put them down for it, but I don't think I'll be taking it up myself.
  • sugarbuzz Seth (c... November 09, 2009 05:39:38
    sugarbuzz
    All through college you are on a search to learn, so that can be part of it, but hold off on any commitment to anything and stuff your brain with the things you will need to be wise. Good call meantime, and hang in there.
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    Karen Ward November 09, 2009 04:38:52
    Karen Ward
    many are lovely people...i have many friends who are Mormon...my advice RUN do not walk! RUN as far and as fast as you can from that Cult...there are other things you can do that are enriching and deeply spiritual that do not require believing crazy made up things! I live a half hour away from the original site where the books were supposidy found...a bunch of bull pucky!
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    Seth (c... Karen Ward November 09, 2009 05:38:48
    Seth (crazy Iowan) *Burgundy*
    I like the fact that they do truly seem to be good people. However, they have some crazy beliefs! I'll give them credit for having good values, though.
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    SATAN November 08, 2009 21:24:33
    SATAN
    I think this says it all...

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    heart of glass November 08, 2009 00:35:35
    heart of glass
    I married into a family of Mormons. They are wonderful people, seriously the kindest most generous people.

    But when you actually look into how the religion was founded and what they believe in you'll probably find it pretty far fetched.

    They tend to be very exclusive, meaning they only hang out with other Mormons. It's a very difficult religion to adhere to, there are A LOT of rules to follow. It is also a difficult religion to leave. Believe me my husband has tried several times, but they keep finding us. Lol!!

    But if you are looking for a tight knit community that takes care of its own, then you might want to look into it.

    PS: coffee, smoking and alcohol are among many, many of the no no's.
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    Seth (c... heart o... November 08, 2009 00:44:03
    Seth (crazy Iowan) *Burgundy*
    That sounds like the case, based on the appearance of the South-Park episode.

    "a tight knit community that takes care of its own" sounds nice to me, but not if they are lunatics about their faith. And that goes for any religious denomination.

    I hear there are a lot of rules to abide by. Smoking and alcohol are easy. Coffee, notsomuch. And besides, I know I'm not cool with polygamy, and even though I wouldn't have to be, I don't think I could associate myself with a religious behavior that condones that.
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    heart o... Seth (c... November 08, 2009 01:06:20
    heart of glass
    They are very devout (if that is what you mean by fanatical). My experience with them is that their entire lives are built around their faith and their church.

    The mainstream church doesn't allow or condone the practice polygamy. Only the offshoots do.

    Although I have many problems with the church in general, and there are many reasons why I would never join, my main reason for not joining is that it's an "all or nothing" type of institution. They value structure and rules to guide ones life, I value freedom and self imposed rules to guide my life. Within their confines I would be suffocated. Having said that, I know many Mormons who are perfectly happy living according to the churches guidelines.
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    Seth (c... heart o... November 08, 2009 01:20:16
    Seth (crazy Iowan) *Burgundy*
    I see. Well it's good I'm learning about this, then.

    And I know what you mean...I get my values and morals from ME, not from religious beliefs. Religion and theology fascinate me, but I don't center my life around it as in my experience it's a hindrance to following my morals and values, and just being a good person in general. I have a little saying, regarding marriage / committed relationships..."I believe religion should play an important role in marriage, but having a threesome with Jesus is not necessary."

    So as the same as you, I don't believe I could handle that lifestyle either.
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    Karen Ward Seth (c... November 09, 2009 04:43:39
    Karen Ward
    RUN!
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    Karen Ward heart o... November 09, 2009 04:43:14
    Karen Ward
    many of the women are very depressed and highly stressed...the Church asks a lot and they pump out as many children as they can...it has some very deep dark secrets that I would be very wary of...they are great business people and usually quite wealthy...they take care of each other...
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    heart o... Karen Ward November 09, 2009 04:51:16
    heart of glass
    I have to agree with you. It's a patriarcal religion. Woman play second fiddle. In fact my sisterinlaw just made the jaw dropping move of leaving my brotherinlaw after 30 years of marriage. She's always been unhappy. Never worked outside the home. Raised 4 children. We've never been close. Since I'm not a member she has never really confided in me. But I have to hand it to her. My bro-in-law is a narcissistic ass and I admire her courage.
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    Karen Ward heart o... November 09, 2009 05:05:28
    Karen Ward
    they trick their women...they tell them they will be Gods also but the secret is there is NO place for them in their kingdom after life...i have done TONS of research on this subject...my husband almost joined the Church and I started digging and digging,,they do some terrible things to women and they do some very sexually explcit things to them during the marriage ceremony,,,women are property to them...for them to use..they lie to them to keep control over them but in the minds of the men,,on the hereafter, the ladies are not worthy....sick sick man was Joseph Smith..I have researched him and he did some CRAZY shit...I live right near the site where the plates were found...Hill Commorah (sp?)...the young ladies (missionaries) visit often,,,we love them,,,they are so sweet...my heart breaks for the life they are headed for....My therapist says he sees many Women who are in the Church or who have left the Church...they are a mess!! His mother in law and wife lived in Utah and they are not Mormon..his wife is still suffering from PTSD from her childhood in utah...she has some very strict boundaries..she is afraid of everyone....
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    sugarbuzz Karen Ward November 09, 2009 04:57:03
    sugarbuzz
    they build on their wealth, and store "goods" on earth too, in preparation for the "end days"...the off- shoots are those who believe multiple wives are one "perk" they deserve. These are the ones that go off and start their own little communities and you have seen them on the news where many of the young children were removed because under-age children were sexually molested, in training to be "wives" and there is incest. That is only a part of it, so check it out thoroughly if you must.
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    Karen Ward sugarbuzz November 09, 2009 05:07:04
    Karen Ward
    i would be terrified for ANYONE that is deciding to join that CULT..terrified...there are other ways to worship that do not take your soul during the process....that is a deal with the devil if i ever saw one!
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    sugarbuzz Karen Ward November 09, 2009 05:12:18
    sugarbuzz
    Technically they all demand your soul, thus I am a recovering Catholic who studied the Bible outside the Catholic Church for 18 years and now through Theology and history classes too, have reached my own conclusions...all have their price.
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    Karen Ward sugarbuzz November 09, 2009 05:18:06
    Karen Ward
    My husband is Catholic...devoted and he is so sweet...I am Episcopalian..Catholic Light...I got off easy..that is a pretty cool and open minded branch of Christianity..But I still thought all that Old Testament stuff was just bazaar even as a tiny tot...I follow my own path and heart and it is all good...when I see the sweet missionaries I try my best to let them see they do not need to do this to themselves...so sad
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