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Gun-loving pastor to his flock: Piece be with you

- A Kentucky pastor is inviting his flock to bring guns to church to celebrate the Fourth of July and the Second Amendment.

New Bethel Church is welcoming "responsible handgun owners" to wear their firearms inside the church June 27, a Saturday. An ad says there will be a handgun raffle, patriotic music and information on gun safety.... Read full article »
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  • steven Jezebel June 08, 2009 00:11:59
    steven
    And 100% patriotic.
  • Jezebel steven June 08, 2009 00:27:09
    Jezebel
    Whatever. It's silly.
  • steven Jezebel June 08, 2009 01:12:18
    steven
    Until you understand that rights not exercised are rights soon forgotten and usurped.
  • Jezebel steven June 08, 2009 01:18:14
    Jezebel
    I'm all for gun rights; trust me, I wish I could have shot this horrible assface today. I just think it's a bit weird for a church to be promoting them.
  • steven Jezebel June 08, 2009 01:26:39 (edited)
    steven
    What's so weird about a church promoting spiritual AND political liberty? One defends the other. Without the means to defend your liberties, you would soon have none, government being what is is by nature.

    "Government is not reason: it is not eloquence. It is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." --George Washington
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    Jezebel steven June 08, 2009 02:12:24
    Jezebel
    Because religion and politics do NOT mix.
  • steven Jezebel June 08, 2009 02:27:33
    steven
    Evidently this pastor and many in his congregation don't agree with you, Gingey. And neither do I.
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    Jezebel steven June 08, 2009 02:29:02
    Jezebel
    Fine, be that way. You started it, anyway. I just think it's silly. So sue me.
  • AKgrandma Jezebel June 08, 2009 11:03:13
    AKgrandma
    Why don't religion and politics not mix? What about Islam? That religion IS its political system.
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    Jezebel AKgrandma June 08, 2009 17:08:34 (edited)
    Jezebel
    Exactly. Religion and politics don't mix. Why would you use Islam as an example? That's a terrible example!

    (No offense if you are Muslim)
  • AKgrandma Jezebel June 08, 2009 11:01:38
    AKgrandma
    It does not appear to me that the point is to promote guns. This congregation agree to this so they already are pro gun. I read the pastor as wanting to promote gun safety and responsibility.
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    Jezebel AKgrandma June 08, 2009 17:09:23
    Jezebel
    I just don't understand how it has anything to do with Jesus.
  • 1169888 June 07, 2009 03:46:14
    1169888
    Yup, didn't ya ever hear of "guns for God"? lol! We have relatives in KY so I am torn, part of this notion is amusing to me and part of it is very sad.
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  • PHS Ex-Ange... June 07, 2009 23:22:50
    PHS
    Know one has killed anyone. Also the correct translation should be "murder", not kill.
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    AKgrandma PHS June 08, 2009 11:06:40
    AKgrandma
    God actually ordered the Isralites to kill. Since G-d judges the soul, HE would then sort out "the sheep from the goats." And you are right, the correct translation is murder, the taking of an innocent human life.
  • steven Ex-Ange... June 08, 2009 01:15:18 (edited)
    steven
    What part of the wars of the Lord did you not understand? Ask Esther what was the cause of her troubles. Haman wouldn't have been in a position to plan her nation's genocide if the word of the Lord had been followed explicitly. When we have our own government attempting to remove our liberties systematically, you will not escape it unless some are willing to stand up and be counted.
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    jo June 07, 2009 00:36:13
    jo
    they are in Kentucky tis legal. They have rules, they are going to be safe, they are doing what comes NATURAL to men, boys playing guns! Be it a real pistol or a 5 yr old with a fake one, or a 13 yr old with a bb gun, this is a mans nature how he was created GOd knows what He is doing! and this pastor is not doing it just do it there is reason behind with our nations history! let em have their day and all will resume as normal once again, they are even asked to bring a friend! If this is a way to get one more soul saved then go on Pastor do what u were called to do!
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    Aysohmay jo June 07, 2009 00:40:53
    Aysohmay
    WHAT! You think its human NATURE to play around with guns? So in our natural state, with society, we'd be going around playing with guns? What guns? Out in nature there are NO guns. It can't be in a human nature to play with guns when its not a natural occurrence at all.

    This has nothing to do with saving souls either. This is clearly a political statement in support of full 2nd amendment rights. Besides, if you, the pastor, or anyone thinks guns are a way to save your soul, you forget about a little rule called "Thou Shalt not kill"
  • Isabella Aysohmay June 07, 2009 08:46:45
    Isabella
    I so agree
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