well yeah. christians are really stupid. at least most of the ones i know. they follow that religion that teaches them stuff that never happened. and all this about you have to ask for forgiveness from a dead guy they claimed to write the bible but didn't. and then heaven= good, hell=bad. because they have proof of these places. when in reality, science overrules all of this completely.! and they think they are the good ones because they are brainwashed into thinking 'good people' are the ones that pray to god that doesn't really help anybody. if this so called 'god' existed. why is there all this chaos??

Some do. Some definitely do. In fact, every Christian I've encountered in my family or in the rest of the world that know I don't believe in God always act smugly towards me and say I'll be sorry when I die and see God. Then I try explaining my view point, not always tactfully, I do get annoyed, but it almost always ends with them saying, "That's fine, 'cause I know I'm right, and you'll be sorry."
I'm not going to lump all Christians in with the ones I know, so I say it's just the basis of the person. Some people just want to feel superior to others in some way, and if they happen to be Christian and think they know the grandest secret of the universe when you don't, they'll sure as hell feel supreme.

yes

The cool thing is, by their rules, probably everyone will be sorry when they die.

Oh, and hey, I've got a secret for you...just let me know when your'e ready for this reality blowing knowledge that sets me apart from you and then we can be on this awesome secret team and have all this exciting fun being in our little special club of fun forever and ever and ever.

Some Christians labele atheists as stupid, devil-worshippers, or morons. Though there may be some atheists who fit these categories (as would many in the general population), atheists are not categorically stupid, devil-worshipping, degenerates with no morals. Many of them are fine citizens, honest, caring, loving, and patient.
For a Christian, or anyone for that matter, to make a blanket statement about atheists in a derogatory manner is wrong. It is the same thing atheists sometimes do when they accuse Christians of being irrational, psychotic, or holyer than thou know it alls. Such accusations have no place on either side of the argument of truth.

Generally speaking, atheists are not stupid. Many of them have thought through their position over a long period of time and arrive at conclusions after much thought. Some were raised in religious homes, have seen what religion has to offer, and have rejected it. Of course, I think that atheists have drawn incorrect conclusions about God, but it doesn't mean they are dumb. Some atheists have presented very cogent arguments against the existence of God, which need to be addressed.

So, just because someone believes in God and encounters someone who doesn't, that does not mean that either side is stupid. Labeling and name-calling have no place in the discussion.

Speaking for myself only. I KNOW I am no better than the next person.

I'm going to answer this for you Korinthian, but I'm going to qualify it. First let me say, that in essence, No - Christians are not superior to anyone else. God has no favorites. Or maybe it would be better to say, we're all his favorites. He doesn't relish the idea of losing any of us. Here would be a good place for me to apologize for coming off sounding superior. Sorry, that's not my intention.

However, you may have encountered those of us who view our faith as our most treasured possession and even seek to share it with others. Why would we want to share it if we weren't sure it was something better. We are not superior, but we're plugged into something that's out of this world!

God knows who will go to hell.
God created hell.
God created the rules for going to hell
God seemingly dislike the people that he allows being born only to go to hell.

Okay "Korky", we're switching tracks. That's alright, I can follow. It wouldn't take a psychic to determine, that hell is one of the reasons you reject the concept of the Christian's God. As it is presented by some, I would too! A lot of what is taught is tradition, not the Bible.
Do you have any children? The reason I ask is because that's as close as I can get to understanding how God feels about hell. He wants people there about as much as we want one of our children executed. Yes it's that horrifying to him too. That's why he made a way out.

But the original question wasn't about God's feelings, it's about Christian's feelings. Just about the time I think I get the forgiveness thing figured out, and grasp God's kind of love for everybody, I blow it. I saw a movie last week where a black man in the south was lynched by a white mob. Instantly, I was ready to consign the mob to - well - you know where. Thank God it's not about my or any other Christian's emotions. And thank God he made a way that I won't get what I deserve.

As I remember he had his own son tortured and killed. And yeah, one of the reasons that I think the Christian god is impossible is that he claims to be all about love, yet he invents something like eternal torture. That doesn't make sense, and anyone but someone in the faith can understand that.

Do you have children? Would you punish them with torture if they did something wrong? That doesn't even make sense.

Okay then. Stay angry. Just FYI I don't believe in eternal torture either! That's what I was trying to tell you. A deeper understanding of Jewish idiom has made me re-evaluate a lot of things I used to think were in the Bible. That's why I thought it would be interesting to talk with someone like you.

The thing about children is the only way I can relate to how much God hates the idea of any of us ending up in hell. (which I believe doesn't even exist until the future) Maybe you can't understand that. Maybe you don't want to. At any rate, I'm keeping the rest of my pearls for someone who enjoys a lively sharing of ideas.

Live well

Yeah, another runner.

People themselves choose whether or not they go to Hell. It's not God's wish that you do. Just because He knows what decision you'll make doesn't mean He's the one who made it. He allows us all to make our own decisions. It's obvious that you know nothing about the Lord if you make statements like the above. Study a bit before showing so much ignorance.

some don't, but some do and I have always thought it was very un-Christian like personally.

It must be very hard to think you are equal to a non-Christian as a believer yourself if you are under the impression that you hold the secret to eternal life.

But that's just me.

It certainly seems some of them do. During high school, my sons played football and were discriminated against because they were not Christian. The coach told them and the entire team that only Christians make good football players and students. This was at a PUBLIC school! On the flip side, some of their Christian friends supported them and walked out on the coach when he said that.

Gotta love the Christians that actually stands up against shit like that.

It doesn't happen often enough.

You know, it's pretty interesting. We encouraged our guys attend church services and events with their friends whenever they seemed inclined. We figured that they needed to make up their own minds and that - while we were not inclined toward organized religion, they should have the freedom to explore. They chose their own paths, but they always showed respect for their friends and I believe that had a lot to do with the support. For them, it was all about the mutual respect.

I have a lot of pride and hope in the next generation. I think they will be the so-called "transition figures" for our future.

That's how my parents did it. And that is very wise of you.

I simply believe that anyone who accepts the true principles of their religion and feels it spiritually does not make judgments about anyone.

i'm not really sure. but, most christians probably think that they are better than other people that are not christians. although, they may not show it, but most christians probably think that they are a little better than everybody else, because they know about god, and accepted him in their lives. so therefore, i think that christians somewhat judge non-christians, just because of what they believe.
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Anyone who actually believes that their faith makes them superior has lost sight of what that faith should mean.

Except if you are a scientologist, then that's the right thing to think.

I didn't think people had faith in scientology, only a financial investement.

Faith/brainwashing anyways.

You do seem to think so. I hope to prove otherwise.

Eh? Why?

Why.... well, I dislike the stereotype that every believer must, by definition, voluntarily lobotomize themselves in the name of faith. I am a scientist, well respected in my field and quite at peace with myself. Your opinion on the faithful applies to me as well, and I'd like to prove an exception to the stereotype, at least.

ScienTOLOGist.


(Illustration).

How is that relevant?

Are you a scientist or a scientologist?

Catholic scientist.

I just don't see where you are going with this at all.

My faith is in God, I identify myself as Catholic. My profession, a scientist, or specifically a research engineer. I'm sorry if I wasn't forthcoming. I'm not trying to be confusing.

Yeah, but it is not like you have used science to come to the conclusion that god is real. You just believe in your religion despite your profession.

Almost. I don't think that my faith in God is at all affected by my profession, or vice versa; I wouldn't say that I believe in spite of my profession, but I do agree that logic and rationality have nothing to do with my faith or the conclusions I've come to regarding faith.

I've said as much before.

Indeed the curse of the church is the immature Christian. We Christians are all so very imperfect just as everyone else, if we could all just acknowledge that at least we'd have humility.

Some do, some don't.

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