May 13, 2008 03:01PM GMTMay 13, 2008 15:01:53
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Posted by fuzzy Ken

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Is Affirmative Action still needed?

Keep in mind that Affirmative Action is based solely on race and or gender and not on income.
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raves +5 -1 by kmay

Answered No

It's 'Reverse Discrimination'.
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  • raves +1   [-] by GoddessMother

    Answered No

    Quotas don't work. We need to let companies hire the most qualified person for the job, not hire someone because they are of one gender or color you need to fill a quota.
  • raves +1   [-] by TheRichZone

    Answered No

    I voted against Obama because I believe his character is flawed but I’m happy we have a black POTUS. Since a black man has now risen to the highest and most powerful office in the world, America has corrected our past civil right injustices against Black Americans. It’s time to abolish black affirmative action laws because they are racist
  • raves     [-] fuzzy Ken replied to TheRichZone
    Agreed.
    Notice how Obama didn't need Affirmative Action to get to POTUS?
  • raves     [-] by Doc Mel - Obama - Biden 08 ; )

    Answered Yes

    Include disadvantaged Euro-Americans in the equation. Without it employers from the feds on down will hire only people just like themselves, this is already happening.
  • raves +2   [-] by Arel

    Answered No

    It had its purpose at one time but no more.
  • raves +3   [-] by john conner

    Answered No

    people need to be hired and fired based on individual merit.
  • raves +1   [-] fuzzy Ken replied to john conner
    Unfortunately, that is not always the case.
    For the longest time minorities and women were discriminated against and this was set up with the best of intentions.
    Sadly, whenever the government sets out to right a wrong, they end up making things worse.
    Affirmative Action is most prevelant in our institutes of higher learning.
    If we take 4 applicants with equal grades and merits, one black, one Hispanic. one Asian and one white and they apply to the same college the black and Hispanic ones will have a 100% chance of being admitted while the white and Asian will have about a 5% chance.
  • raves +2   [-] by Bite Me (XSA)

    Answered No

    No it needs to end! We are better then that. It makes me angry that our government thinks that some races are too dumb to get a job.
  • raves +2   [-] by concerned

    Answered Yes

    just as much as ever ...this election has told you that with all the racist things begin said everyday
  • raves +1   [-] fuzzy Ken replied to concerned
    Affirmative action was created to combat discrimination, not racism.
    The fact that we have both a female and a black as front runners for POTUS with in a major party gives testimony as to just how far we've come.
    Keep in mind that Affirmative Action is solely race and gender oriented, not income. A child of a rich black or Latino family has a far better chance of getting into college than a poor white.
    BTW: Why are some minorities not covered under Affirmative Action? I know that Asians, Irish, Italians and Jews have been historically discriminated against, yet Affirmative Action doesn't apply to them. How come?
  • raves +1   [-] concerned replied to fuzzy Ken
    one creates the other racist ...creates discrimination
  • raves +2   [-] fuzzy Ken replied to concerned
    Discrimination is a racist practice, but racism is an attitude.
    Isn't Affirmative Action racist as well?
    Saying that one person gets preference over another is racist no matter what the color of that person.
  • raves +2   [-] concerned replied to fuzzy Ken
    no it just makes sure corporation aren't
  • raves +3   [-] fuzzy Ken replied to concerned
    ...but if one person is given preferential treatment over another based solely on skin color, how is that good?
    If a black or Hispanic is given preferable treatment in college admissions over a white or Asian how is that not racism?
  • raves +1   [-] concerned replied to fuzzy Ken
    it's only to make sure that blacks and ect... not it passed over not to replace anyone ....it was never meant to replace anyone ...that is the excuse you use to get rid or it ...so you can be unfair ...
  • raves +4   [-] fuzzy Ken replied to concerned
    Discrimination is discrimination regardless of who is the victim and who is the beneficiary.
  • raves +2   [-] concerned replied to fuzzy Ken
    yes it is and that's why mlk fought like it did to but it in place ....we march for years to have rights ....don't go backwards in time now
  • raves +3   [-] fuzzy Ken replied to concerned
    Affirmative Action, by it's very nature is discriminatory.
    I accept that i was necessary in the beginning in order to get women and minorities into colleges and levels of management. Once there, they are able to network and get others into similar positions. Remember that about 85% of the jobs out there are never advertised.
    As such, minorities and women have come a long way since the inception of this program. The journey is not over, but do we need to still discriminate against whites and Asians?
    Does not the fact that we have a woman and a black man running for the Democratic ticket show how far we've come?
  • raves +1   [-] concerned replied to fuzzy Ken
    you must mean whites ...no one has ever discrminarted against whites ...they are the reason that the programs were brought about ....
  • raves +2   [-] fuzzy Ken replied to concerned
    "no one has ever discrminarted against whites"?!?!?!?
    Are you kidding me?
    Historically, Jews, Irish and Italians have been discriminated against in this country. Not as much in the last half of the 20th century, but the history is there.
    Even today, if your last name is O'Malley or Ferraro or Goldberg some people will not hire you no matter your experience.
    Do you have Blue Laws where you live? Blue Laws state that some if not all businesses cannot open on Sundays. They were specifically set up to deprive Jewish shopkeepers of a day's revenues since Jews celebrate the Sabbath on Saturday. It was only in the last 2 years that New York started allowing liquor stores to open on Sunday.

    With Affirmative Action, whites AS WELL AS Asians and East Indians are chosen last in order to get in as many blacks and Hispanics. This is regardless of income. A middle class or rich black will be accepted into college before an equally deserving poor white.

    Do you really think that it is still necessary to practice this discrimination?


  • raves     [-] concerned replied to fuzzy Ken
    you call jews and italians, white ...no no ...they aren't white ..they are just what you called them ....stop your bull ...right now
  • raves +1   [-] fuzzy Ken replied to concerned
    Are you being sarcastic?
  • raves     [-] concerned replied to fuzzy Ken
    not today
  • raves     [-] Doc Mel - Obama - Biden 08 ; ) replied to fuzzy Ken
    Fuzz, I get your points, however Obama is half white, i.e., Euro-American, as is Hillary a white (Euro-American female). Yes, calling someone by color is race based, while calling someone by culture is the issue at hand. I think the problem is the republicans anyhow....................
  • raves     [-] Doc Mel - Obama - Biden 08 ; ) replied to fuzzy Ken
    I agree, bring in the disadvantaged of all ethnicities and human diversity. There is nothing wrong with proving yourself at a community college. You get good grades, 3.0 or so, you will be able to get in most state colleges. Most graduate schools will allow anyone to get in on probation, get your 3.5 or your 3.0 for a certain amount of credits and you are in.

    College Education and Health Care in my opinion are rights we must all have, they need not cost anything.

    If employers and or universities, public entities and so forth are caught discriminating, then put them in jail, make it a crime. We will see how fast discrimination goes away! : )
  • raves +1   [-] GoddessMother replied to concerned
    All the racists things I heard said came from the president elect and his crew.
  • raves +5 -1 [-] by kmay

    Answered No

    It's 'Reverse Discrimination'.
  • raves +2   [-] by Conker Pucci

    Answered No

    moderated...
  • raves +2   [-] by kim

    Answered Undecided

    It needs change ! I'm not voting for Obama ,but I do think he would be the only one that can do that.
  • raves +3 -1 [-] by It's Dave to you...

    Answered No

    Affirmitive action, I believe is the downfall of America. And, has been an outlet, for the leftist liberal mess that we are in at this time. Affirmitive action sucks I think.