May 06, 2008 02:29AM GMTMay 06, 2008 02:29:53
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Should there be a law against pregnant women smoking?

Isn't that child abuse?
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raves +74 -31 by mrorganic77

Answered No

Absolutely not, no one or government has the right to legislate morals. It is all about education and morals, not making more laws.
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  • raves     [-] Faith-NObama-McCain/ Palin 08 replied to sickone
    People can't stop breathing, but the can stop intentionally poisoning their children. It is all about choices, and many women have shown that they aren't able to make a responsible one.
  • raves +1   [-] Jerry replied to Bill
    Cheeseburgers make you live not die. You have to eat to live. Smoking doesn't give you life only disease and death.
  • raves     [-] Bill replied to Jerry
    I guess you haven't heard of heart disease....or obesity. The point is there are a lot of things we do every day that aren't healthy....
  • raves     [-] Sakura replied to Bill
    If you're a fatass and eat like 5 cheeseburgers a day, then yes, cheeseburgers will indeed be the death of you.

    But if you're a normal person who has a cheeseburger once a week, you won't die. Not for a good 50, 60 years anyway.
  • raves +2   [-] by Dani

    Answered No

    No. How many more freedoms would you like the government to take away from you? It starts with these borderline issues, and gets continually worse, and when you realize what's happening it's too late to do anything about it. It's the mother's decision to smoke or not to smoke, and more often than not, if the mother is just smoking cigarettes, the baby is fine.
  • raves +2   [-] Bill replied to Dani
    Since becoming a PC society, citizens have been trying to lose freedom more and more. Everybody wants to create a law everytime someone does something that they don't like. What they don't realize is that everytime we take away a freedom, we get further and further from what this country was founded on. Sure some things seem meaningless but if you look at the big picture its not a good thing for us.

    I'm totally with you on this.

    I've read where some cities want to or have banned the baggy pants style. Our local news posted a poll question asking if we supported that. Overwhelmingly people supported banning a clothing style because they found it offensive. Keep in mind...there is no nudity involved.

    If we want to hand our freedoms back to the government...they will surely take them.
  • raves     [-] Faith-NObama-McCain/ Palin 08 replied to Dani
    Each year, more than 280 children die from respiratory illnesses caused by their parents' tobacco use or from smoking-caused fires, and another 300 suffer from fire-caused injuries. According to a 1997 study, exposure to secondhand smoke also leads to over 500,000 physician visits for asthma and 1.3 million visits for coughs, and to more than 115,000 episodes of pneumonia, 14,000 tonsillectomies or adenoidectomies, 260,000 episodes of bronchitis, two million cases of otis media among children, and 5,200 tympanostomies.
    Research studies estimate that the direct additional health care costs associated just with birth complications caused by pregnant women smoking or being exposed to secondhand smoke could be as high as $2 billion per year. More broadly, parental smoking has been estimated to cause direct medical expenditures of more than $4.5 billion per year to care for smoking-caused problems of exposed newborns, infants, and children, as well as to treat birth complications
  • raves +2   [-] by TheSara.

    Answered Yes

    I feel bad for the child :[

  • raves +1   [-] by Miloui

    Answered No

    no no no unless you want to throw fat people in jail too? give up any freedom...you don't deserve to be free
  • raves     [-] Faith-NObama-McCain/ Palin 08 replied to Miloui
    Someone being fat is only hurting them self. When a woman smokes while pregnant, she is hurting the baby
  • raves +4 -1 [-] by deadhead509

    Answered No

    what do you want a phudo nazi state
  • raves +3   [-] by Bitwise Operator

    Answered No

    While it's a stupid thing to smoke when pregnant we cannot legislate against every stupid act - this isn't a totalitarian society... yet.

    Once we start passing laws against stupidity Washington D.C. and Hollywood would be the most restrictive places on earth.
  • raves +1   [-] by BB

    Answered Yes

    people don't even need to smoke golly
  • raves +1   [-] by eandv1

    Answered No

    there should be a law against what brittany spears is wearing in the pic...
  • raves +1 -1 [-] jamie replied to eandv1
    why? it's a free country the last time I checked. If you don't like what she's wearing, don't dress that way yourself.
  • raves     [-] by none

    Answered Yes

    There should be a law against pregnant womew. Overpopulation is killing the planet
  • raves     [-] TheSara. replied to none
    lol.
  • raves +1 -1 [-] by Horse Luver

    Answered Yes

    I kind of think so because ur harming an unborn baby, and smoking is really bad for the mother too.
  • raves +1 -1 [-] by StarrGazerr

    Answered Yes

    Not only pregnant women. Tobacco products are proven carcinogens responsible for thousands of deaths each year, including many deaths of people who have never smoked a cigarette in their lives.

    And to those who would say it is an individual's right to choose to smoke, I would ask whether you think Plutonium should be legalized. It will kill you and everyone around you, but if you want it, why shouldn't you have it?

    The only reason tobacco remains legal is that the tobacco industry spends a fortune on lobbying the Red State Southern Congressmen.

  • raves +2 -2 [-] by tamara

    Answered Yes

    i think that smoking is child abuse. becuase you are putting the infants in trouble they want to live there life like you do. they want to live normall. there should be a law
  • raves +3   [-] by mick

    Answered No

    Privacy is the essential kernel of democracy. When religion dictates, via pandering politicians, that personal decisions are trumped by political considerations, we have no democracy. It isn't the interest of the State that prevails, it's the beliefs of the deluded.
  • raves +5   [-] by Jackie G

    Answered No

    Good heavens, no! More gov control, yikes! Supposedly it makes babies smaller, I smoked and my son weight 7 lbs11 oz when born - bigger? No thanks! I quit about 10-12 years ago just to see what the whole "cigarettes made me smoke" thing was all about - didn't feel any better (already felt good), saved a few bucks, and my hair smells better. Easy to quit, in my opinion but I do not believe that cigarettes cause all know disease. Just not my deal!
  • raves +3 -5 [-] by crsone

    Answered No

    No way, no how. This is the sort of outrageous government intrusion into the privacy of its citizens that is the hallmark of of "social issues" conservative.
  • raves +5 -1 [-] Jerry replied to crsone
    How OUTRAGEOUS! BLA BLA BLA. Yak yak yak.
  • raves +4 -1 [-] Faith-NObama-McCain/ Palin 08 replied to crsone
    So you don't think that children should be protected from their selfish mothers? Then we should probably get rid of social services too, it's their kid, they should be able to do whatever they want right??
  • raves +2 -5 [-] Army Wife NC replied to Faith-NObama-McCain/ Palin 08
    30 years ago they didn't need social services, and you know why? Because the communities were strong enough to take those children and help them themselves. Rather than have some government funk sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong, the community supported itself and got those children to helping homes. Social services was just another way for the government to try and dictate how it's people live. If you like that, might i suggest china? they're in a similar mindset to you it seems.
  • raves +4 -1 [-] Faith-NObama-McCain/ Palin 08 replied to Army Wife NC
    Yeah, what's wrong with a mother flinging her infant into a wall turning her brain to mush...there is nothing wrong with that... And just so you know, the first social worker was hired in 1905. If people are not responsible enough to care for their own children, then someone has to protect them.
  • raves +4 -2 [-] crsone replied to Faith-NObama-McCain/ Palin 08
    By a law that makes the mothers criminals for smoking? Nope, I don't. I would do everything I could through the media and doctors to convince that Mom to stop smoking, but if she didn't -- nope, no way. And it's not child abuse -- maybe fetus abuse, but you have to be born to be a child.
  • raves   -1 [-] Faith-NObama-McCain/ Palin 08 replied to crsone
    In Missouri and 17 other states, the laws recognize a fetus as living at the time of conception.
    On April 1, 2004, President Bush signed into law the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, also known as "Laci and Conner's Law." The new law states that any "child in utero" is considered to be a legal victim if injured or killed during the commission of a federal crime of violence. The bills definition of "child in utero" is "a member of the species homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."
  • raves +1 -1 [-] Faith-NObama-McCain/ Palin 08 replied to crsone
    You don't have to be born to be a victim.
  • raves +2   [-] Jerry replied to crsone
    The fetus becomes a child. Child abuse. Unless she aborts. At 7 weeks pregnancy the brain begins developement. Instant transition from fetus to child.Would you abort at 8 1/2 months pregnant? Are you that sick in the head?
  • raves +1 -1 [-] Grime replied to crsone